Universal remote control for the Pioneer DVR-640H-S (and more)

dcoulombe · 08-12-06, 05:53 PM

Hi everybody,

I just bought a Philips Universal Remote Control (PDVD6) from a local electronic store to try to limit the amount of remote control I need to use...

TV, Cable Box, Amp, VCR, DVR, DVD... I'm just tired of using them all!

At first, I was not hoping this toy to work at all, but as it can "learn" codes from your original remotes I gave it a shot. There is a huge list of code included in the manual including codes for TV, VCR, CD Player, Cable and Sat boxes, DVD Players, Laser Disc Players, DVR, DVD Recorders and even home automation systems...

My first impression is that every one of my components is working great with the universal remote! I was able to program 4 components in about 10 minutes, then returned to the manual and began to customize the button layout by using the learn mode.

Everything is working for the DVR-640H-S, even the eject button, which is not present on the original remote!!!

I know that a lot of people complained about the lack of such a button on the Pioneer's original remote, so I think it is important to mention.

The only thing I'm not able to control is the source selection on my JVC home theater Amp, but its so minor for me...

Here is the list of component I programmed with the remote :
TV: JVC I`ART (flat screen CRT) (base code 607)
Cable Box : Scientific Atlanta Explorer 2200 (Videotron Illico) (base code 252)
DVR: Pioneer DVR-640H-S (base code 592)
Amp : JVC RX-5042 (base code 680)

I talk about base code as I customized almost every code layout to suit my needs.

The only component I needed to use the Search Code mode was the Amp, which explain a little why this one does not work perfectly. There is a support line, but I don't plan to call them as I can live with the limitation.

And by the way, it cost about 20$ CDN and is covered by a lifetime warranty...

Sounds good to me!

suplex · 08-12-06, 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dcoulombe

Everything is working for the DVR-640H-S, even the eject button, which is not present on the original remote!!!

I know that a lot of people complained about the lack of such a button on the Pioneer's original remote, so I think it is important to mention.

Those "8@$T@RD$" at Pioneer, I knew the 640 would allow for a remote "Open/Close - Eject" to operate, so why didn't they include that in the original?!?!

Well thank you loads for this post and I think it might be worth it for me to replace my Pioneer 640 Remote with the one you suggested.

Let me ask you something though, does your new remote (only concerned about the Pioneer 640) really control everything? Like for example if you wanted to switch from HDD to DVD, can the universal also control that?

The following I feel certain that your universal can control:
Power On/Off
Play, Rec, FF, REW, Stop, Chapter + & - (Next/Previous)
Up, Down, Right, Left Arrows (Menu Navigation), and Enter
0-9 Keys
etc...

But What About Stuff Like:
Stop Rec (Different than regular "Stop")
One Touch Copy
Disc Navigator
HDD/DVD
Return
and some of the less general functions.

Does the "learning" ability of the universal allow you...if you want...to literally control every single button on the entire remote, or are you limited to maybe four "learning" buttons?

I would be looking to use this remote to only control the Pioneer 640 as a better designed replacement for the original.

ACPewty · 08-13-06, 12:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suplex

I would be looking to use this remote to only control the Pioneer 640 as a better designed replacement for the original.

Why not just order a 633 remote from Pioneer? I have one I use with my 640 and I can tell you everything works perfectly and no annoying sliding door! Using the 633 remote commercial skip even works on finalized DVDs whereas it doesn't when using the 640 remote. The 633 remote also has TV control buttons, open/close and a timer record button.

Sean Nelson · 08-13-06, 01:19 AM

This is a (small) picture of the remote from the Best Buy web site:

The usual problem with these remotes is that they don't have enough buttons to do everything you want to do. You can often learn buttons and get most of what you want, but there's usually at least a few things you can't cram onto "logical" buttons.

I have a very nice Sony touchscreen remote. I've been able to program everything I need into it, but I still use my Pioneer 633 remote because the buttons are better placed for editing and because entering titles is a pain using the touchscreen.

Urlee · 08-13-06, 08:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ACPewty

Why not just order a 633 remote from Pioneer? I have one I use with my 640 and I can tell you everything works perfectly and no annoying sliding door! Using the 633 remote commercial skip even works on finalized DVDs whereas it doesn't when using the 640 remote. The 633 remote also has TV control buttons, open/close and a timer record button.

ACPewty,

Is that the VXX2967?

Thanx,
Urlee

suplex · 08-13-06, 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ACPewty

Why not just order a 633 remote from Pioneer? I have one I use with my 640 and I can tell you everything works perfectly and no annoying sliding door! Using the 633 remote commercial skip even works on finalized DVDs whereas it doesn't when using the 640 remote. The 633 remote also has TV control buttons, open/close and a timer record button.

ACPewty:

Do you have a scanner attached to your computer? If you do would you scan your 633 remote so I could see what it looks like (unless there is a picture online somewhere). I didn't even think about what you suggested and it sounds like a great idea.

Now I have to go to Pioneer.com and figure out how to order the 633 remote.

suplex

dcoulombe · 08-13-06, 09:16 AM

Suplex :

"Let me ask you something though, does your new remote (only concerned about the Pioneer 640) really control everything? Like for example if you wanted to switch from HDD to DVD, can the universal also control that?"

The Philips universal remote by default let me control the majority of the functions of the DVR-640H-S. As an example, it was letting me starting a manual record program, but the stop record was not available.

If I'm right, I had to remap those functions :
Stop Rec, HDD/DVD, Prev Chap, Next Chap, Rec Mode, VCR Plus+.

I also had to move some functions to other buttons as I prefer to use, as an example, FF and RW for fast forward and rewind, not skip chapter back and forth.

"Does the "learning" ability of the universal allow you...if you want...to literally control every single button on the entire remote, or are you limited to maybe four "learning" buttons?"

No, you can if you want create your own layout. Choose a compatible code so at least the power button function (maybe not mandatory) and assing every button to what you want. No such ting as a few learning capable buttons.

dcoulombe · 08-13-06, 09:20 AM

Sean:

"The usual problem with these remotes is that they don't have enough buttons to do everything you want to do. You can often learn buttons and get most of what you want, but there's usually at least a few things you can't cram onto "logical" buttons."

Of course, the universal remote is not as good as the original one. As an example, it is a bit slower than the original, which means that you cannot easily come one chapter back, as it needs you to press quickly the prev chapter button. I need to press the button and hold it until the chapter is skipped back.

But I think it is a very good everyday use remote control. When I want to edit a recording, I use the original remote for faster execution. Keep in mind that this remote is very affordable.

SAH · 08-13-06, 09:43 AM

[quote=suplex]ACPewty:

Do you have a scanner attached to your computer? If you do would you scan your 633 remote so I could see what it looks like (unless there is a picture online somewhere). I didn't even think about what you suggested and it sounds like a great idea.

Suplex

Here's a alink to the Pioneer site for the 633. You can click the link under the picture of the 633 for a close-up of the remote, or a little further down, click on the tab for Documents and get the actual manual

Pioneer 633

dcoulombe · 08-13-06, 10:53 AM

After seeing the remote of the 633, I understand why they put a little door on the remote of the 640...

The new remote is more "newbie friendly".

dcoulombe · 08-13-06, 10:54 AM

Here's a better picture of the Philips remote :
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0...V50357103_.jpg

SAH · 08-13-06, 11:33 AM

Dcoulombe,

Can you tell me which model Pioneer device you chose for the universal remote? I have a universal remote with learning, but it does not have the 640, 533 or 633 as built in codes. I know I can do the "learning" but was hoping to have a "base" code to start with.

dcoulombe · 08-13-06, 11:44 AM

I used the "592" base code, then customized it to my needs. My code list also refer to code "399", but I did not try it.

I don't know if these codes will work for other kind of remote control.

Sean Nelson · 08-13-06, 11:45 AM

Here's an attachment of the 533/633 remote. I apologize for the fact that it's sideways - the forum software imposes a maximum picture size of 640 x 800, and it won't allow the "800" to be the vertical dimension! (

).

I quite like the layout of the movement keys (play/scan foward/reverse, pause/stop, commercial and chapter skip, slow motion) on this remote. I can do all my editing by touch, keeping my attention on the screen instead of having to keep looking down at the remote.

The layout of the navigation keys (disk navigator, menu, return, arrows, enter) is also very good. One of my pet peeves about the remote for my Toshiba DVD player is that the "enter" and "arrow" buttons are undistinguished buttons in the middle of a cluster of other buttons, and the "enter" isn't even in the middle of the arrows. They're always a real pain to find and use. After that experience I've become very careful to check the layout of the remote before I buy a piece of equipment. Especially with a DVD recorder, the remote is a major part of the "look and feel" of the unit.

I don't personally like remotes with doors on them, although I understand why some people might be intimidated by all the buttons on a DVD recorder remote. But IMHO if they've omitted the "eject" button from the 640 remote than that's a pretty stupid choice. I often use the "eject" button to eject and reload a DVD I've just burned to make sure the machine recognizes it. I also like to hit eject before I get up and walk over to the machine to remove a disc so that I don't have to wait for the tray to open.

suplex · 08-13-06, 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dcoulombe

After seeing the remote of the 633, I understand why they put a little door on the remote of the 640...

The new remote is more "newbie friendly".

Which is the exact reason I would like the 633 remote instead of the 640's. That door on the 640 is pretty annoying and the complexity (over the 640) of the 633 remote won't be a problem for me at all.

I have also heard enough from people in here that the 633 remote WILL work on the 640...even thought one web site that sells remote controls didn't include the 640 unit in the list of what the Pioneer VXX2967 (633 remote) will control...to make my decision to buy the 633 remote instead of a universal.

I just noticed something else that the 633 remote has which the 640 doesn't, a Channel Up & Down Button. Man did they strip that 640 remote!

Incase anyone wants to know, as stated above the 633 remote is the VXX2967, and the 640 is the VXX3095.

wajo · 08-13-06, 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suplex

I just noticed something else that the 633 remote has which the 640 doesn't, a Channel Up & Down Button. Man did they strip that 640 remote!

Isn't the channel up/down incorporated in the up/down arrows?

I like this better, as well as the CM Skip/Back being incorporated in the left/right arrows.

ACPewty · 08-13-06, 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urlee

ACPewty,

Is that the VXX2967?

Thanx,
Urlee

Yes, that's the one. (Probably the same remote as other 2005 Pioneer models, but I only had a 633.)

ACPewty · 08-13-06, 11:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suplex

Now I have to go to Pioneer.com and figure out how to order the 633 remote.

Here's the US Link for the 633 remote.

Here's the CDN Link for it.

The problem with universal remotes for the 640 is even if you have buttons for everything (doubtful) most don't include the alphabet letters on the numeric keypad portion to remind you which numbers to press for entering titles. Personally, I still need a reminder and have to look at the remote. This is especially important if we don't see a firmware update to resolve the automatic titling issue.

dcoulombe · 08-14-06, 09:02 AM

True, there is no numbers on the remote :-(

That's why I need to keep the original remote near me for advanced task.

ACPewty · 08-14-06, 02:05 PM

Just spoke to Pioneer Canada to check on the status of my 640 exchange, and they agreed to include a 531/533/633 remote for "about $60.00" CDN in the box. (Possibly less for a used one since they have a number of them, but he wasn't sure.) I Just gave him my visa number. Seems a bit steep compared to the US price of $35.66, but at least there's no additional shipping since they will just put it in the box. Still a great deal if you consider the upgrade to the 640.

(Argo Nexus the 3rd party handling Pioneer parts had to order it in and wanted CDN $58.13 plus shipping!)

Budget_HT · 08-14-06, 02:21 PM

I am wondering if a 520 remote might also work with a 640. The 520 remote has a chapter set button that I did not see on the 533 remote picture. Also, the 520 did not have TVGOS, so nothing lost there.

I am not at home now so I cannot look at the remote to get the part number.

suplex · 08-14-06, 07:53 PM

I just ordered mine today.

I ordered the VXX2967 Pioneer Remote for the 633, to use for my 640.

I got it from the site PartStore.com where the price was $36.57 and with S&H and Tax (yes they charged Tax), it came to: $46.58.

Here is the link:
http://www.partstore.com/ProductDeta...uctSKU=8567171

ACPewty · 08-14-06, 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suplex

I just ordered mine today.

I ordered the VXX2967 Pioneer Remote for the 633, to use for my 640.

I got it from the site PartStore.com where the price was $36.57 and with S&H and Tax (yes they charged Tax), it came to: $46.58.

Here is the link:
http://www.partstore.com/ProductDeta...uctSKU=8567171

Yes, I tried them but they won't sell to Canada.

Hmph.

Urlee · 08-15-06, 06:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suplex

I just ordered mine today.

I ordered the VXX2967 Pioneer Remote for the 633, to use for my 640.

I got it from the site PartStore.com where the price was $36.57 and with S&H and Tax (yes they charged Tax), it came to: $46.58.

Here is the link:
http://www.partstore.com/ProductDeta...uctSKU=8567171

Can I ask why you didn't buy it from Pioneer.com?

Urlee

rgazzara · 08-15-06, 07:56 AM

Pioneer has the remote for the 633 on its parts web site for $35.66 plus shipping (and tax?). A link can be found here.

suplex · 08-15-06, 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urlee

Can I ask why you didn't buy it from Pioneer.com?

Urlee

Just like rgazzara pointed out they (Pioneer) also charge S&H with Tax for their remote.

When you buy something with S&H and Tax they take the price, then add tax, and charge S&H on top of that (meaning they don't make you pay Tax on the Shipping).

I paid $46.58 from PartStore.com, if I bought it from Pioneer it would have cost $47.27.

Now for only 69 cents I would NEVER drive far away to another store if a local store has it for more money, but sitting at my computer chair clicking a mouse is a different story. I have searched web sites where I have picked one site over another for even less than that.

Also PartStore.com passed my test on certifications (to verify the quality of their site) and they had a good deal of information in their "Contact Us" link, where it was not just a phone number, or just an e-mail as I have seen with other sites.

There was even a review done on PartStore.com by ePinions.com where the person liked the experience of shopping there.

Doesn't hurt to shop around, especially when you are not using gas to do so.

Urlee · 08-15-06, 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suplex

Also PartStore.com passed my test on certifications (to verify the quality of their site) and they had a good deal of information in their "Contact Us" link, where it was not just a phone number, or just an e-mail as I have seen with other sites.

Doesn't hurt to shop around, especially when you are not using gas to do so.

Suplex,
Let your fingers do the walking?

Thanks for the report on a good place to order from.

Urlee

suplex · 08-21-06, 03:15 PM

Hello All:

Just wanted to let everyone know that I received my Pioneer 633 remote today (the one I bought to replace the original 640 remote).

First thing is that it worked as soon as I put the batteries in (wasn't sure if it might have needed to be coded to work with the 640 unit as it was a 633 remote), nothing to program and it works great.

Second is that I checked it against the 640 remote and button-for-button it literally does everything that the 640 does (so you miss out on nothing) and it even has a few things that the 640 does not. Those being "Timer Record", and the all popular "Eject, Open/Close".

To anyone that has the Pioneer 640 unit, I highly recommend that you purchase the remote control for the 633 (Part # VXX2967). You can get it from Pioneer or at this link: (where I bought mine)

http://www.partstore.com/ProductDeta...uctSKU=8567171

You'll be glad you did.

ACPewty · 08-21-06, 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suplex

Second is that I checked it against the 640 remote and button-for-button it literally does everything that the 640 does (so you miss out on nothing)

Actually it is missing the VCRPlus button, but AFIAK not too many people actually use that do they? (I don't.)

Glad you like the 633 remote on the 640. I agree, it is much better especially if you enter lots of titles or like to use commercial skip on finalized recordings.

suplex · 08-21-06, 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ACPewty

Actually it is missing the VCRPlus button, but AFIAK not too many people actually use that do they? (I don't.)

Glad you like the 633 remote on the 640. I agree, it is much better especially if you enter lots of titles or like to use commercial skip on finalized recordings.

It is missing the VCR Plus button, but you can still access that through the Main Menu when you go into Timer Recording, but to answer your question...I don't use it either.

About using commercial skip on finalized recordings, I never play anything in my recorder anyhow (I use a separate player as many in here do) but I will still agree that it would be a nice feature to use.

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dcoulombe Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Quebec City QC, Canada Posts: 29	Universal remote control for the Pioneer DVR-640H-S (and more) Hi everybody, I just bought a Philips Universal Remote Control (PDVD6) from a local electronic store to try to limit the amount of remote control I need to use... TV, Cable Box, Amp, VCR, DVR, DVD... I'm just tired of using them all! At first, I was not hoping this toy to work at all, but as it can "learn" codes from your original remotes I gave it a shot. There is a huge list of code included in the manual including codes for TV, VCR, CD Player, Cable and Sat boxes, DVD Players, Laser Disc Players, DVR, DVD Recorders and even home automation systems... My first impression is that every one of my components is working great with the universal remote! I was able to program 4 components in about 10 minutes, then returned to the manual and began to customize the button layout by using the learn mode. Everything is working for the DVR-640H-S, even the eject button, which is not present on the original remote!!! I know that a lot of people complained about the lack of such a button on the Pioneer's original remote, so I think it is important to mention. The only thing I'm not able to control is the source selection on my JVC home theater Amp, but its so minor for me... Here is the list of component I programmed with the remote : TV: JVC I`ART (flat screen CRT) (base code 607) Cable Box : Scientific Atlanta Explorer 2200 (Videotron Illico) (base code 252) DVR: Pioneer DVR-640H-S (base code 592) Amp : JVC RX-5042 (base code 680) I talk about base code as I customized almost every code layout to suit my needs. The only component I needed to use the Search Code mode was the Amp, which explain a little why this one does not work perfectly. There is a support line, but I don't plan to call them as I can live with the limitation. And by the way, it cost about 20$ CDN and is covered by a lifetime warranty... Sounds good to me!

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SAH Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 89	[quote=suplex]ACPewty: Do you have a scanner attached to your computer? If you do would you scan your 633 remote so I could see what it looks like (unless there is a picture online somewhere). I didn't even think about what you suggested and it sounds like a great idea. Suplex Here's a alink to the Pioneer site for the 633. You can click the link under the picture of the 633 for a close-up of the remote, or a little further down, click on the tab for Documents and get the actual manual Pioneer 633 Last edited by SAH; 08-13-06 at 10:19 AM..

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dcoulombe Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Quebec City QC, Canada Posts: 29	After seeing the remote of the 633, I understand why they put a little door on the remote of the 640... The new remote is more "newbie friendly".

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Budget_HT AVS Special Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Renton, WA Posts: 3,077	I am wondering if a 520 remote might also work with a 640. The 520 remote has a chapter set button that I did not see on the 533 remote picture. Also, the 520 did not have TVGOS, so nothing lost there. I am not at home now so I cannot look at the remote to get the part number. __________________ Dave

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suplex suplex Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 860	I just ordered mine today. I ordered the VXX2967 Pioneer Remote for the 633, to use for my 640. I got it from the site PartStore.com where the price was $36.57 and with S&H and Tax (yes they charged Tax), it came to: $46.58. Here is the link: http://www.partstore.com/ProductDeta...uctSKU=8567171 __________________ Never Underestimate The Power Of Forums.

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Sean Nelson Member since 2001-05 Join Date: May 2001 Location: Vancouver BC, Canada Posts: 3,091	This is a (small) picture of the remote from the Best Buy web site: The usual problem with these remotes is that they don't have enough buttons to do everything you want to do. You can often learn buttons and get most of what you want, but there's usually at least a few things you can't cram onto "logical" buttons. I have a very nice Sony touchscreen remote. I've been able to program everything I need into it, but I still use my Pioneer 633 remote because the buttons are better placed for editing and because entering titles is a pain using the touchscreen.

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dcoulombe Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Quebec City QC, Canada Posts: 29	Suplex : "Let me ask you something though, does your new remote (only concerned about the Pioneer 640) really control everything? Like for example if you wanted to switch from HDD to DVD, can the universal also control that?" The Philips universal remote by default let me control the majority of the functions of the DVR-640H-S. As an example, it was letting me starting a manual record program, but the stop record was not available. If I'm right, I had to remap those functions : Stop Rec, HDD/DVD, Prev Chap, Next Chap, Rec Mode, VCR Plus+. I also had to move some functions to other buttons as I prefer to use, as an example, FF and RW for fast forward and rewind, not skip chapter back and forth. "Does the "learning" ability of the universal allow you...if you want...to literally control every single button on the entire remote, or are you limited to maybe four "learning" buttons?" No, you can if you want create your own layout. Choose a compatible code so at least the power button function (maybe not mandatory) and assing every button to what you want. No such ting as a few learning capable buttons.

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dcoulombe Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Quebec City QC, Canada Posts: 29	Sean: "The usual problem with these remotes is that they don't have enough buttons to do everything you want to do. You can often learn buttons and get most of what you want, but there's usually at least a few things you can't cram onto "logical" buttons." Of course, the universal remote is not as good as the original one. As an example, it is a bit slower than the original, which means that you cannot easily come one chapter back, as it needs you to press quickly the prev chapter button. I need to press the button and hold it until the chapter is skipped back. But I think it is a very good everyday use remote control. When I want to edit a recording, I use the original remote for faster execution. Keep in mind that this remote is very affordable.

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dcoulombe Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Quebec City QC, Canada Posts: 29	Here's a better picture of the Philips remote : http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0...V50357103_.jpg

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SAH Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 89	Dcoulombe, Can you tell me which model Pioneer device you chose for the universal remote? I have a universal remote with learning, but it does not have the 640, 533 or 633 as built in codes. I know I can do the "learning" but was hoping to have a "base" code to start with.

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dcoulombe Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Quebec City QC, Canada Posts: 29	I used the "592" base code, then customized it to my needs. My code list also refer to code "399", but I did not try it. I don't know if these codes will work for other kind of remote control.

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dcoulombe Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Quebec City QC, Canada Posts: 29	True, there is no numbers on the remote :-( That's why I need to keep the original remote near me for advanced task.

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ACPewty Advanced Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 888	Just spoke to Pioneer Canada to check on the status of my 640 exchange, and they agreed to include a 531/533/633 remote for "about $60.00" CDN in the box. (Possibly less for a used one since they have a number of them, but he wasn't sure.) I Just gave him my visa number. Seems a bit steep compared to the US price of $35.66, but at least there's no additional shipping since they will just put it in the box. Still a great deal if you consider the upgrade to the 640. (Argo Nexus the 3rd party handling Pioneer parts had to order it in and wanted CDN $58.13 plus shipping!)

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rgazzara AVS Special Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Philly, PA Posts: 2,254	Pioneer has the remote for the 633 on its parts web site for $35.66 plus shipping (and tax?). A link can be found here. __________________ RG

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suplex suplex Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 860	Hello All: Just wanted to let everyone know that I received my Pioneer 633 remote today (the one I bought to replace the original 640 remote). First thing is that it worked as soon as I put the batteries in (wasn't sure if it might have needed to be coded to work with the 640 unit as it was a 633 remote), nothing to program and it works great. Second is that I checked it against the 640 remote and button-for-button it literally does everything that the 640 does (so you miss out on nothing) and it even has a few things that the 640 does not. Those being "Timer Record", and the all popular "Eject, Open/Close". To anyone that has the Pioneer 640 unit, I highly recommend that you purchase the remote control for the 633 (Part # VXX2967). You can get it from Pioneer or at this link: (where I bought mine) http://www.partstore.com/ProductDeta...uctSKU=8567171 You'll be glad you did. __________________ Never Underestimate The Power Of Forums.