1080p owners - how is the 1080p setting working for you? Or is it working at all?

TV Casualty · 10-31-06, 11:50 AM

Ok, so the problems have started to pop-up.

PLEASE, if you vote on this poll, specify what you chose and what panel you have in the thread below.

StefanGagne · 10-31-06, 11:56 AM

I've got a 40" XBR2. It fails on the VGA. It works on component -- but I picked fails-both, because we have no actual 1080p content on the system for component cables. DVDs won't upscale on component, HD-DVDs won't play 1080p on component, component is basically useless for anything except 1080p games... of which there are none. I'd call that a colossal fail.

Praying for a patch, but doubting one's coming given this is a Sony set...

Darkserpent213 · 10-31-06, 12:05 PM

Well i'm pretty upset with the whole situation. I own a SXRD A2000 and it only accepts 1080P thru HDMI. So of course I tried setting the 360 to 1080P thru component anyways and of course it didn't take it. I haven't tried VGA yet, but i'm hearing my TV won't take 1080P thru VGA either. So I guess the only way I can play 1080P is if I get a PS3 (and I don't want one). So unfortunately this update is useless for me. I spent over three grand on a 1080P TV and microsoft won't let me use it.....AAHHHHHHH!!!!!

mike89z · 10-31-06, 12:09 PM

I've got a 42" Westy and it work fine over VGA. It took maybe 2 seconds to auto calibrate (66H X 59V) when I initially changed it. Now I am enjoying my 1080P set with a 1080P input!!! About time!!

By the way, Thanks to Microsoft for giving me a free upconvert DVD player!! Good thing I didnt buy one.

I watched a movie and it was still outputting 1080P so all is good with the Westy and VGA!

BTW,
I didnt try component and I dont think Im going to.

briankmonkey · 10-31-06, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Darkserpent213

Well i'm pretty upset with the whole situation. I own a SXRD A2000 and it only accepts 1080P thru HDMI. So of course I tried setting the 360 to 1080P thru component anyways and of course it didn't take it. I haven't tried VGA yet, but i'm hearing my TV won't take 1080P thru VGA either. So I guess the only way I can play 1080P is if I get a PS3 (and I don't want one). So unfortunately this update is useless for me. I spent over three grand on a 1080P TV and microsoft won't let me use it.....AAHHHHHHH!!!!!

Microsoft please listen to your fans! It makes sense!!

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Todd Holmdahl: Xbox 360 will support HD component video output, which is compatible with nearly every HD-ready TV on the market today. We’re poised to hit the sweet spot of the HD market at launch and as the market matures, and we will provide an HDMI for our customers when it makes sense. The reality is, you don’t need HDMI for HD gaming.

KLUNKDM · 10-31-06, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Darkserpent213

Well i'm pretty upset with the whole situation. I own a SXRD A2000 and it only accepts 1080P thru HDMI. So of course I tried setting the 360 to 1080P thru component anyways and of course it didn't take it. I haven't tried VGA yet, but i'm hearing my TV won't take 1080P thru VGA either. So I guess the only way I can play 1080P is if I get a PS3 (and I don't want one). So unfortunately this update is useless for me. I spent over three grand on a 1080P TV and microsoft won't let me use it.....AAHHHHHHH!!!!!

Yes I think MS should have the HDMI, but with your TV, Sony has some blame in this also. They could have made it 1080P over VGA, but choose not to. MS never said 1080P at first. I didn't want to spend all that money on a 1080P last year, so I went with the 50A10 which is 720P and I have no regrets. It's just the gamble we all take when buying new technology.........

Joe Diver · 10-31-06, 12:49 PM

I have a Mits 52628.....it only accepts 1080p over IEEE 1394, so until the 360 has a FireWire cable, I'm SOL with 1080p....

FrankJ.Cone · 10-31-06, 12:49 PM

MS is not responsible for you not having 1080P, your sets manufacturer is.

Would it be nice if every 360 had an HDMI port? Not as nice as it would be for every PS3 to have HD DVD so we could have the best looking movies possible on it. Nor as as nice as it would be for the Wii to offer 720P.

No product has everything, so buy them all

csmith75 · 10-31-06, 12:53 PM

Has anyone tried it with a Dell 2407? I have my 360 hooked via component and wanted to know if that will work with 1080p or should I go purchase a VGA cable. Didn't have enough time this morning to check it out.

Management · 10-31-06, 01:04 PM

Damn all I have read is how Sony got some people on the VGA input. When I was trying to make a decision a HDTV it was between the A2000 and the HLS. I'm so glad I went with the HLS. Some poeple posted in the A2000 thread that even with the VGA input that they couldn't resive the image to fit the screen and were stuck with the black border. Man that sucks and its surely Sony is to blame. I kinda think they did it on purpose.

Darkserpent213 · 10-31-06, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Management

Damn all I have read is how Sony got some people on the VGA input. When I was trying to make a decision a HDTV it was between the A2000 and the HLS. I'm so glad I went with the HLS. Some poeple posted in the A2000 thread that even with the VGA input that they couldn't resive the image to fit the screen and were stuck with the black border. Man that sucks and its surely Sony is to blame. I kinda think they did it on purpose.

I believe it was on purpose, of course, they think everyone with a sony 1080P tv is going to have to buy a PS3 now for 1080P...but im not going for it. I don't want the PS3 or a Blu-ray player (I like HD-DVD). Sorry Sony you make a sweet TV, but stop trying to be a monopoly.

volley · 10-31-06, 01:10 PM

Neither works. Sony Pearl.

priyajeet · 10-31-06, 01:23 PM

doesnt work at all with both on Sony XBR2 60"

timothias · 10-31-06, 02:10 PM

1st post ever in the Xbox Area.

I JUST bought a Sony 46XBR3 for the sole purpose of 1080p via HDMI from PS3, and 1080p via VGA from Xbox 360. Haven't gotten a 360 yet, but I was going to when Gears of War comes out.

All this news of 1080p via VGA not working is starting to really get frustrating. Dammit!

RAVEN56706 · 10-31-06, 02:12 PM

thank god i chose the samsung 4095d and not the 40xbr2.... phew....

timothias · 10-31-06, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by StefanGagne

I've got a 40" XBR2. It fails on the VGA. It works on component -- but I picked fails-both, because we have no actual 1080p content on the system for component cables. DVDs won't upscale on component, HD-DVDs won't play 1080p on component, component is basically useless for anything except 1080p games... of which there are none. I'd call that a colossal fail.

Praying for a patch, but doubting one's coming given this is a Sony set...

Okay, so you connected via component as well. So when you press 'display' on your TV, it says 1080p? Just curious, I want to play games on 1080p; HD DVD 1080p playback would be nice. But games in 1080p is what I need! If component works, then thank you. For now.....

TV Casualty · 10-31-06, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by FrankJ.Cone

MS is not responsible for you not having 1080P, your sets manufacturer is.

Except we don't know for sure if that is the issue or not. Unless Sony is outright lying (which admittely is a possibility), the XBR2/3 should be fine with what the 360 outputs at 1080p.

I don't know. What I do know is the Sony set has been out for months, and the dashboard update has been out for about 12 hours. I hope someone isn't silly enough to suggest that MS didn't test the 1080p functionality with multiple sets/brands.

aaronwt · 10-31-06, 02:31 PM

I only use VGA with both my 360's so that is all I have tried and will use. It works fine on my 1080P Samsung DLP(HLR6168) and my Gateway 1680x1050P(21" widescreen) monitor at 1080P.

volley · 10-31-06, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by TV Casualty

Except we don't know for sure if that is the issue or not. Unless Sony is outright lying (which admittely is a possibility), the XBR2/3 should be fine with what the 360 outputs at 1080p.

I don't know. What I do know is the Sony set has been out for months, and the dashboard update has been out for about 12 hours. I hope someone isn't silly enough to suggest that MS didn't test the 1080p functionality with multiple sets/brands.

That is where I am at. You can't tell me that they didn't know about this. There are only so many 1080p sets to test it on. And if they tested with any of the Sony's they would have seen the issue. Has REALLY turned me off from Microsoft and the 360. I was getting ready to jump on the HD-DVD bandwagon. This just gives me a bad taste in my mouth.

timothias · 10-31-06, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by volley

That is where I am at. You can't tell me that they didn't know about this. There are only so many 1080p sets to test it on. And if they tested with any of the Sony's they would have seen the issue. Has REALLY turned me off from Microsoft and the 360. I was getting ready to jump on the HD-DVD bandwagon. This just gives me a bad taste in my mouth.

I'm with you on that, brotha!

efjay · 10-31-06, 03:20 PM

Has anyone with a sony verified that their tv's WILL actually accept 1080p over VGA or component? That will be a crucial point is determining if the Xbox is at fault or the tv. Samsung owner's so far seem to be doing ok (with 1 exception reported so far by JBran24). Remember also that 1080p over component is for games only, not DVD's or HD-DVD's.

andreo · 10-31-06, 03:26 PM

Samsung HLS6187. Everything works like a dream. I was late for work because I couldn't pull myself away from the DVD up conversion quality through VGA.

mngmikes · 10-31-06, 03:29 PM

honestly can one of you sit down in front of two tvs the same brand, settings and tell which picture was 1080p and which was 1080i ? i highly doubt it

IndyStylee · 10-31-06, 03:29 PM

I was going to buy an SXRD set until I found out it won't do 1080p over VGA. So instead I bought their 46" project LCD Grand WEGA TV. It isn't 1080p, but it sure is beautiful. I'll worry about 1080p in a couple years when all the TV's have been in competition for a while.

dfmcki · 10-31-06, 03:37 PM

VGA works on a westinghouse 37w1, haven't tried component as the 37w1 doesn't accept 1080p via that anyways. I have found that WMV videos that are 1080p are only playing in a 4:3 form, and I can't get the TV to stretch the image, even by going to a fill mode. Others are reporting this same issue.

The Apparition · 10-31-06, 03:40 PM

can i get 1080p with my samsung hl-r5668w thru vga?

aaronwt · 10-31-06, 03:43 PM

It works on my HLR6168 so it should work on your HLR5668 since they are the same model just different sizes.

The Apparition · 10-31-06, 03:46 PM

great! i will buy one today and try it out.
thanks.

KingFd · 10-31-06, 03:48 PM

1080p works fine for me over component, have not had a chance to try over VGA yet but will tonight when I get home. I'm currently using a TEAC LCD3735A 1920x1080 LCD.

ogbuehi · 10-31-06, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by volley

That is where I am at. You can't tell me that they didn't know about this. There are only so many 1080p sets to test it on. And if they tested with any of the Sony's they would have seen the issue. Has REALLY turned me off from Microsoft and the 360. I was getting ready to jump on the HD-DVD bandwagon. This just gives me a bad taste in my mouth.

This doesn't mean that it's Microsoft's fault. They could have tested the 360 with all the Sony sets. If the tv doesn't accept a 1080p signal via component or has underscan via VGA that's the TV's manufacterer's fault. The 360 is outputting the 1920x1080 resolution signal Microsoft said it would on the outputs Microsoft said it would.

There apparently are some TV companies that got it right with the VGA input. Sony didn't. But the problem with even having a 1080p issue is that it really only applies to a very, very, small market. Very few people own a 1080p set. Even less who own that 1080p set also own a 360.

At this point, just be happy you are in the few that even have the option to enjoy 720p/1080i HD.

View Poll Results: How is the 1080p functionality on the 360 working for you?
Works fine with both component and VGA	47	25.82%
Works fine with component only	10	5.49%
Works fine with VGA only	14	7.69%
Doesn't work properly with either	38	20.88%
Don't own a 1080p TV, I just want a button to push	73	40.11%
Voters: 182. You may not vote on this poll

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Management AVS Special Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: NY Posts: 1,255	Damn all I have read is how Sony got some people on the VGA input. When I was trying to make a decision a HDTV it was between the A2000 and the HLS. I'm so glad I went with the HLS. Some poeple posted in the A2000 thread that even with the VGA input that they couldn't resive the image to fit the screen and were stuck with the black border. Man that sucks and its surely Sony is to blame. I kinda think they did it on purpose. __________________ KRP-500M My Previous Setups

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StefanGagne Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 20	I've got a 40" XBR2. It fails on the VGA. It works on component -- but I picked fails-both, because we have no actual 1080p content on the system for component cables. DVDs won't upscale on component, HD-DVDs won't play 1080p on component, component is basically useless for anything except 1080p games... of which there are none. I'd call that a colossal fail. Praying for a patch, but doubting one's coming given this is a Sony set...

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Darkserpent213 Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 161	Well i'm pretty upset with the whole situation. I own a SXRD A2000 and it only accepts 1080P thru HDMI. So of course I tried setting the 360 to 1080P thru component anyways and of course it didn't take it. I haven't tried VGA yet, but i'm hearing my TV won't take 1080P thru VGA either. So I guess the only way I can play 1080P is if I get a PS3 (and I don't want one). So unfortunately this update is useless for me. I spent over three grand on a 1080P TV and microsoft won't let me use it.....AAHHHHHHH!!!!!

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mike89z Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 25	I've got a 42" Westy and it work fine over VGA. It took maybe 2 seconds to auto calibrate (66H X 59V) when I initially changed it. Now I am enjoying my 1080P set with a 1080P input!!! About time!! By the way, Thanks to Microsoft for giving me a free upconvert DVD player!! Good thing I didnt buy one. I watched a movie and it was still outputting 1080P so all is good with the Westy and VGA! BTW, I didnt try component and I dont think Im going to.

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Joe Diver Elite Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Dallas/Fort Worth, Texas Posts: 124	I have a Mits 52628.....it only accepts 1080p over IEEE 1394, so until the 360 has a FireWire cable, I'm SOL with 1080p....

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csmith75 Advanced Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: PA Posts: 675	Has anyone tried it with a Dell 2407? I have my 360 hooked via component and wanted to know if that will work with 1080p or should I go purchase a VGA cable. Didn't have enough time this morning to check it out.

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volley Senior Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 391	Neither works. Sony Pearl.

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priyajeet I am Your Father. Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Santa Clara, CA Posts: 112	doesnt work at all with both on Sony XBR2 60"

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timothias Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: New Jersey Posts: 376	1st post ever in the Xbox Area. I JUST bought a Sony 46XBR3 for the sole purpose of 1080p via HDMI from PS3, and 1080p via VGA from Xbox 360. Haven't gotten a 360 yet, but I was going to when Gears of War comes out. All this news of 1080p via VGA not working is starting to really get frustrating. Dammit!

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aaronwt HD addict AVS GOLD CLUB MEMBER Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Northern VA(Woodbridge) Posts: 10,894 Classified Rating: 100% (2)	I only use VGA with both my 360's so that is all I have tried and will use. It works fine on my 1080P Samsung DLP(HLR6168) and my Gateway 1680x1050P(21" widescreen) monitor at 1080P. __________________ HD DVD titles: 379 BD titles: 356 Last HD DVD: P2: A New Level Of Terror Last BD: Baraka LED DLP Last edited by aaronwt; 10-31-06 at 02:45 PM..

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efjay AVS Special Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Germantown, MD Posts: 1,527	Has anyone with a sony verified that their tv's WILL actually accept 1080p over VGA or component? That will be a crucial point is determining if the Xbox is at fault or the tv. Samsung owner's so far seem to be doing ok (with 1 exception reported so far by JBran24). Remember also that 1080p over component is for games only, not DVD's or HD-DVD's.

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andreo Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Des Moines, IA Posts: 135	Samsung HLS6187. Everything works like a dream. I was late for work because I couldn't pull myself away from the DVD up conversion quality through VGA.

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mngmikes Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 347	honestly can one of you sit down in front of two tvs the same brand, settings and tell which picture was 1080p and which was 1080i ? i highly doubt it

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IndyStylee Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 230	I was going to buy an SXRD set until I found out it won't do 1080p over VGA. So instead I bought their 46" project LCD Grand WEGA TV. It isn't 1080p, but it sure is beautiful. I'll worry about 1080p in a couple years when all the TV's have been in competition for a while.

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dfmcki Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: MN Posts: 218	VGA works on a westinghouse 37w1, haven't tried component as the 37w1 doesn't accept 1080p via that anyways. I have found that WMV videos that are 1080p are only playing in a 4:3 form, and I can't get the TV to stretch the image, even by going to a fill mode. Others are reporting this same issue.

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The Apparition Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 25	can i get 1080p with my samsung hl-r5668w thru vga?

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aaronwt HD addict AVS GOLD CLUB MEMBER Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Northern VA(Woodbridge) Posts: 10,894 Classified Rating: 100% (2)	It works on my HLR6168 so it should work on your HLR5668 since they are the same model just different sizes. __________________ HD DVD titles: 379 BD titles: 356 Last HD DVD: P2: A New Level Of Terror Last BD: Baraka LED DLP

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The Apparition Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 25	great! i will buy one today and try it out. thanks.

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KingFd Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: New Zealand Posts: 34	1080p works fine for me over component, have not had a chance to try over VGA yet but will tonight when I get home. I'm currently using a TEAC LCD3735A 1920x1080 LCD.