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Old 11-03-06, 02:32 PM   #1   |  Link


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Genesis in 5.1?

Genesis have a press conference scheduled for next week where is is expected they will announce a 2007 Reunion Tour. It is also rumoured that they will announce the release of their back catalog in SACD 5.1.

Fingers crossed!!
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Old 11-04-06, 01:27 AM   #2   |  Link
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Is that a reunion with Peter Gabriel or just Phil?
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Old 11-04-06, 01:43 AM   #3   |  Link
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Looks like only Banks, Collins, Rutherford...
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Old 11-04-06, 10:31 AM   #4   |  Link
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This is the 78-92 lineup, though according to everyone (except Hackett, no word from him on this), a full reunion of the "big five" is a possibility for 2008-9. Gabriel has stated his willingness to do so but could not commit before 2008. The other three wanted to go ahead, probably because they have the time and desire AND because, in a way, two reunions make sense. A full reunion would likely focus on early material while the "threesome" reunion will cover a much larger repertoire. Just my 2 cents.
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Old 11-06-06, 06:53 AM   #5   |  Link
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Oh boy, I can only hope this time the release of the 5.1 back catalog is true. Been waiting for those for years, rumored to come out every six months and then nothing.

And record companies wonder why their revenues are down. The idiots...
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Old 11-06-06, 08:24 PM   #6   |  Link
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As of this post, this is unconfirmed. Genesis will have a press conference on 11/07/2006 (UK time).....

SACD/DVD Double Disc Sets in re-mastered 5.1 Surround Sound & Stereo Mixes:

March 2007: A Trick Of The Tail (1976), Wind & Wuthering (1977), …And Then There Were Three…(1978), Duke (1980) Abacab (1981)

June/July 2007: Genesis (1983), Invisible Touch (1986), We Can't Dance (1991), Calling All Stations (1997)

Fall/Winter 2007/Spring 2008: Trespass (1970), Nursery Cryme (1971), Foxtrot (1972), Selling England By The Pound (1973), The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway (1974)
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Old 11-07-06, 12:41 PM   #7   |  Link
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sacd/dvd release news from Billboard

http://billboard.com/bbcom/news/arti..._id=1003353269
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Old 11-07-06, 12:48 PM   #8   |  Link
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Ovation,
Your comment about the reunion with Gabriel makes sense with how they are releasing the new SACD/DVDs. I was upset that the first bulk comes out in the spring, and that we have to wait another full year before getting the old stuff (Most of the Gabriel Era was re-mixed first). But if that is going to at the same time as a full tour with Gabriel, it makes sense, at least from a marketing standpoint, and not from a rabid fan standpoint.
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Old 11-07-06, 05:49 PM   #9   |  Link
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Anyone else find it odd that they're releasing in both SACD and DVDA? I don't know if I should interpret this as a positive or a negative....
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Old 11-07-06, 05:56 PM   #10   |  Link
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I wouldn't think the DVD is DVD-A, but instead DVD-V with lossy DD.
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Old 11-08-06, 11:32 AM   #11   |  Link
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I'd be inclined to agree with Paul - it simply says DVD.

This is fantastic news for fans of the SACD format. Hopefully Phil will release some of his back catalogue as well - I'd like to have a 5.1 of No Jacket Required.


Full statement from Genesis.
http://www.genesis-music.com/genesispr.htm
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Press Information: London 7 November 2006

Tony Banks, Phil Collins and Mike Rutherford of the iconic band Genesis unveiled the dates for their first tour in 15 years. Turn It On Again - the tour, will see the band play a series of stadium concerts in Europe in the summer of 2007. Kicking off in the Olympic Stadium, Helsinki on 11 June, the tour will hit twelve different European countries, ending in Rome on 14 July. At a Pan-European press conference staged today at London's exclusive Mayfair hotel and hosted by comedian and lifelong Genesis fan, David Baddiel, the band took questions from international media about their reasons for reforming and thoughts on the tour.

European tour promoter, John Giddings, commented:
"It is a privilege to work with one of the greatest rock bands of all time, and to see their musical talent together again onstage will be incredible. The live shows are as famous as their music."

The "Turn It On Again" tour will be travelling to all the biggest stadiums as it treks across Europe in 2007 through Finland, Denmark, Switzerland, Austria, Hungary, Poland, Germany, France, Holland, UK, Monte Carlo and Italy. For all European tour dates, please go HERE.

Tickets will be on sale for UK dates on 24 November and for dates in Germany on 10 November. Other on-sale dates to be announced.

Tony Banks, Phil Collins and Mike Rutherford will be joined on stage by long time Genesis sidemen, Chester Thompson on drums and Daryl Steurmer on guitar. Two of the world's greatest show technicians, award-winning lighting designer Patrick Woodroffe and acclaimed set designer Mark Fisher are working on plans for the 2007 Genesis tour.

Genesis have sold over 130 million albums, it is one of a small elite of British bands who have achieved global success and sustained it over four decades. Genesis was formed in 1966 by Tony Banks, Peter Gabriel, Mike Rutherford and Anthony Phillips, while still at school, but its most successful incarnation was the late 70's early 80's line-up of Phil Collins taking on lead vocals and sharing songwriting, with Rutherford and Banks. The Duke album topped the UK charts in 1980 with the hit single, Turn It On Again monopolising the airwaves. In 1987, Genesis played sold out stadium shows across the globe, including four consecutive Wembley Stadiums.

To coincide with the Genesis tour, EMI Records will be re-issuing 14 Genesis studio albums in three stages during 2007. All the releases will be SACD/DVD double disc sets featuring newly re-mastered 5.1 surround sound and stereo mixes. The release schedule is as follows:

March 2007: A Trick Of The Tail (1976), Wind & Wuthering (1977), …And Then There Were Three…(1978), Duke (1980) Abacab (1981)

June/July 2007: Genesis(1983), Invisible Touch(1986), We Can't Dance (1991), Calling All Stations(1997)

Late 2007/Early 2008: Trespass (1970), Nursery Cryme (1971), Foxtrot (1972 ), Selling England By The Pound (1973), The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway(1974)
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Old 11-08-06, 11:58 AM   #12   |  Link
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I'd be inclined to agree with Paul - it simply says DVD.

This is fantastic news for fans of the SACD format. Hopefully Phil will release some of his back catalogue as well - I'd like to have a 5.1 of No Jacket Required.
Hear hear! Sussudio in SACD 5.1! Woohoo!


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Old 11-08-06, 12:17 PM   #13   |  Link
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Hear hear! Sussudio in SACD 5.1! Woohoo!


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HaHa. I agree though. For me, the last good Genesis album was Wind & Wuthering (and even it was not up to their previous standards.)
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Old 11-08-06, 12:20 PM   #14   |  Link
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I really liked Selling England, Abacab and Invisible Touch, but if they're all being released on SACD then I'd be a lot more likely to delve into some of the other albums.
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Old 11-08-06, 12:27 PM   #15   |  Link
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I really liked Selling England, Abacab and Invisible Touch, but if they're all being released on SACD then I'd be a lot more likely to delve into some of the other albums.
The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway, in particular, is a classic on a par with Dark Side of the Moon (and even trippier!) You should very definitely check that one out.
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Old 11-08-06, 02:09 PM   #16   |  Link
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I wouldn't think the DVD is DVD-A, but instead DVD-V with lossy DD.
Sounds like the Depeche Mode imports with SACD and a DVD-V disc. Which means if the Genesis discs are released in the US they'll probably drop the SACD part of the main disc and just release it as a CD/DVD-V like they did with all the DM releases.
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Old 11-08-06, 03:05 PM   #17   |  Link
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That is correct, the DVD will be DTS 24/96 and Dolby Digital 5.1 - not DVD-A; SACD dis will be a hybrid disc.

Regardless of whether people prefer the Collins or Gabriel ers, this is GREAT news for hi-rez surround sound fans.
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Old 11-08-06, 03:08 PM   #18   |  Link
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I really liked Selling England, Abacab and Invisible Touch, but if they're all being released on SACD then I'd be a lot more likely to delve into some of the other albums.
Wow, that is quite a span. I do not think any two Genesis albums are as far apart musically than Selling England and Invsible Touch. If you like those, then I would think almost certainly you will like all their other albums.
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Old 11-08-06, 04:05 PM   #19   |  Link
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My wording could have been better. I don't dislike any of Genesis's albums, I just prefer their older ones. I enjoy them all, with the exception of a few songs.
I think TLLDOB is their all-time classic.
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Old 11-08-06, 04:12 PM   #20   |  Link
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And I just purchased several Genesis CD's recently.... do I double dip???!?!?

I would love to have a live version TLLDOB...
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Old 11-08-06, 04:36 PM   #21   |  Link
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Almost thought this was a thread about running a Sega Genesis through one of those Auzentech cards, LOL
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Old 11-08-06, 05:19 PM   #22   |  Link
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Man on the Corner and all of Duke, Abacab and Genesis (home by the sea) are going to sound great
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And I just purchased several Genesis CD's recently.... do I double dip???!?!?
If you have an SACD player then I'd say.......hell yeah!
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Sounds like the Depeche Mode imports with SACD and a DVD-V disc. Which means if the Genesis discs are released in the US they'll probably drop the SACD part of the main disc and just release it as a CD/DVD-V like they did with all the DM releases.
I never realised they did that - that's bloody rude!
Are the UK releases SACD Multi-channel or just SACD Stereo?
Thanks.
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Are the UK releases SACD Multi-channel or just SACD Stereo?
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Hybrid SACD with Multichannel & Stereo.
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Hybrid SACD with Multichannel & Stereo.
Suh-wing Batta!
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Looks like AmazonUK will get a lot of transatlantic $$$$.
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Looks like AmazonUK will get a lot of transatlantic $$$$.
That's what happened when Dire Straits' announced its "Brothers in Arms" SACD. Like Genesis (and Bjork, Depeche Mode, Mark Knopfler), Dire Straits is signed to a Warner Music Group label in the US. WMG is a proponent of the DVD-A format and thus no SACD for the US for any of the above-mentioned artists. Dire Straits eventually was released in the US on DVD-A....as part of a DualDisc.

If Phil Collins ever decides to release his albums on hi-rez, same situation as above.
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I own Dire Straits "Brothers in Arms" on SACD, as well as Mark Knopfler's "Shangri-la". The former is one of the best SACDs I have heard.

Both can be purchased in the U.S. here:

Brothers in Arms SACD
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Yeah I bought Dire Straits Brothers In Arms on SACD as well. It was not an import.
Very nice disc indeed.
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Looks like AmazonUK will get a lot of transatlantic $$$$.
They just got &25 from me for some Depeche Mode SACDs.
Found two titles that I want (Songs and Violator) for 8 pounds and change.
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For all of you Gabriel fans out there, if you don't have "Up" on SACD then i would recommend picking it up. I just wish all of his solo efforts had been given this treatment. If you want to check out your sub levels, this is a great disc to do it on.
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