Just bought a ML Dynamo sub

Davidt1 · 11-24-06, 12:23 PM

Taking advantage of the BF deal at Magnolia, I bought a ML Dynamo sub this morning. I am listening to it right now. For a tiny sub, it puts out an amazing amount of power. I have the volume level set at 5 (out of 10). It puts my current sub ( Polk Audio PSW350 ) to shame. It plays faster, cleaner and louder. I will watch some movies later on. So far I am very pleased.

atleer · 11-24-06, 03:24 PM

wow, what were the bf deals there? i was looking and didn't see anything for the magnolia lines. I was looking to get the Abyss....

Davidt1 · 11-24-06, 05:13 PM

They had some nice stuff for 50% off. I bought from them at the previous BF too. Yeah, there were no lines. I was in and out in less than five minutes.

TheEAR · 11-24-06, 07:59 PM

Congrats,

The little ML is a very good sub,very musical.When discounted these are no brainers,cannot go wrong with ML subs.

Davidt1 · 11-25-06, 04:00 PM

Just a little a update. ML suggests a 50 hrs break-in. Maybe it's just in my head, but I think it sounds better already at 15 hours

. I have been listening to old songs with lots of acoustic bass. This sub delivers in spades. I imagine the more expensive ML subs kick ass big time. Magnolia still has it on sale for just a little more than I paid. Suddenly my BF deal isn't so special anymore

. There is one issue with this sub. The auto-on function does not kick in if the input signal is not loud. Basically, if it doesn't dectect a low frequency signal it will shut down. It's very annoying. I returned a nice MK sub before for this same problem. My 5-year Polk Audio sub does not have this problem. It stays on as long as there is a signal -- loud or soft; low or high.

bsheldon · 11-25-06, 04:15 PM

Just paly with your settings on your receiver and the gain on the sub to up the signal to the sub. If you surrently run your sub setting at -5, up it 0 or even more--simultaneously lowering the gain on your sub. Many subs have this little quirk and this seems to fix about 99% of them. Good luck.

Davidt1 · 11-26-06, 12:04 PM

Thanks, bsheldon. I played with different settings, but it didn't help much. I don't want to turn the setting on the receiver too high because I read somewhere you can send distorted sound to your sub if you set it too high. Normal listening is fine. It only affects night listening when I need to keep the volume low. The sub's flexibility really comes in handy. I had it in a down-firing position for the first day. It played loud but little muddy, which fine for movies. The explosions in U-571 shook my entire room, even at moderate volume. For music, I prefer to have it in the front-firing position. It's not as loud but cleaner. Now you know there is at least one person who thinks there is a difference between down-firing and front-firing.

nvarner · 12-04-06, 06:45 PM

I have the MartinLogan Fresco's in my theatre room as the LCR and DevTechs in the back. My reciever is a Marantz sr5400. The room size is 13X24 and I was looking at either a SVS-pb12plus (899), SVS-sb12plus (699) or velodyne dd-10 (1600)---humm not! Some other velodyne like spl-1200 (960)
However, after listening to the dynamo in the showroom with the exact speakers that I have. I was very impressed with it.
I now am thinking of getting 2 dynamos (total about 800) and I have a BB gift certificate for about $250 which would get the costs down. Guys? What do you think?

rocky1 · 12-04-06, 08:09 PM

The ML subs are very good subs.I personally have the grotto.If your willing to spend for 2 dynamo's why not audition the grotto.It's great for HT and really excells for music.My .02.

nvarner · 12-04-06, 10:37 PM

Thanks Rocky1! I forgot about the gratto, but I think it costs 1100.00..but I'm not sure. With the sale and my reward certificates I can be at about 500.00 total for both of the dynamos. When I go back I will audition the gratto. What are the dimensions of your room and what are your front speakers, if you don't mind my asking.

rocky1 · 12-04-06, 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by nvarner

Thanks Rocky1! I forgot about the gratto, but I think it costs 1100.00..but I'm not sure. With the sale and my reward certificates I can be at about 500.00 total for both of the dynamos. When I go back I will audition the gratto. What are the dimensions of your room and what are your front speakers, if you don't mind my asking.

My dimensions are 21w x 18deep x 8h(approx).My fronts are B&W 603s3's w/LCR600 and have some def.tech. procinema 100's as my surrounds(from old system).

nvarner · 12-05-06, 12:30 AM

Thanks, my back surrounds are procinema 100s also. I'll be making my decision by Thursday and I'll update.

atleer · 12-05-06, 07:35 AM

they must have those dynamos on a pretty good sale?

nvarner · 12-07-06, 10:28 PM

Changed my mind and purchased the Abyss instead of the two Dynamos. They won't have the sub until Tuesday. I will update after I install it.
ATLEER Magnolia has the Dynamo for 399.

rocky1 · 12-08-06, 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by nvarner

Changed my mind and purchased the Abyss instead of the two Dynamos. They won't have the sub until Tuesday. I will update after I install it.
ATLEER Magnolia has the Dynamo for 399.

Did you by chance make a comparison between the abyss and the grotto?

atleer · 12-08-06, 10:19 AM

what is their sale price on the abyss?

brubacca · 02-02-07, 01:41 PM

Quick question on this ML sub pricing..

Was this a sale or standard pricing? I was just at Magnolia HT (Best Buy) the other day and they were charging list for the Dynamo and Abyss.

How often does Tweeter/ML/Magnolia put ML speakers on sale?

Thanks in advance.

Charlie

Davidt1 · 02-02-07, 06:09 PM

Yes, I bought mine at a sale price. Yes, they have sales often. I wouldn't pay list price for any B&M product. I wouldn't pay any more than what I paid for the Dynamo. AV123 often has b-stock UFW-10s for $425. The specs on this sub look much better than that of the ML Dynamo/Abyss subs.

brubacca · 02-03-07, 08:44 AM

Agreed. I don't pay list either. The only two places in my area that carry ML are tweeter and Magnolia HT. I have dealt with tweeter before and they are a pain in the behind to get movement on pricing. I have never delt with Magnolia HT as they are new in my area. I was hoping to walk in and use this cash burning a hole in my pocket without the hassle.

How is that Dynamo treating you?

Thanks for responding.

Davidt1 · 02-03-07, 09:17 AM

I like it very much. It is smooth and accurate. It also dispels the myth that a sub has to be big and ported for home theater use. Here is what Sound & Vision had to say about it:

http://www.soundandvisionmag.com/spe...tem-page2.html

This is not a review of the Dynamo; it's a review of a speaker system that included a Dynamo.

Paul_PDX · 02-05-07, 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brubacca

Quick question on this ML sub pricing..

Was this a sale or standard pricing? I was just at Magnolia HT (Best Buy) the other day and they were charging list for the Dynamo and Abyss.

How often does Tweeter/ML/Magnolia put ML speakers on sale?

Thanks in advance.

Charlie

Magnolia sales people in my area (Oregon) will often deal if you are a repeat customer or if you are buying multiple items (or if you just ask what is the best price they can give you).

brubacca · 02-07-07, 02:12 PM

I ordered a Silver Dynamo!!!! Magnolia/Best Buy is having a clearance at a really good price. The clearance price is for the silver version only.

Forceflow · 02-09-07, 06:07 PM

Any comparisions with Grottos? That is my sub and I want to know whether to go with a Dynamo as a pair or another brand (Grotto has sub out)?

rocky1 · 02-09-07, 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Forceflow

Any comparisions with Grottos? That is my sub and I want to know whether to go with a Dynamo as a pair or another brand (Grotto has sub out)?

I think it would be best to have 2 of the same sub.Like another grotto.

Forceflow · 02-09-07, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by rocky1

I think it would be best to have 2 of the same sub.Like another grotto.

makes sense, the Grotto has increased in price by 200 since I got mine. Perhaps I should just save and get a Descent or a Depth...

thanks.

rocky1 · 02-09-07, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Forceflow

makes sense, the Grotto has increased in price by 200 since I got mine. Perhaps I should just save and get a Descent or a Depth...

thanks.

I got to ask this,but how big is your room that the grotto doesnt do it for you anymore.

Forceflow · 02-09-07, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by rocky1

I got to ask this,but how big is your room that the grotto doesnt do it for you anymore.

Its approx 12 x 36 x 8. The problem is that the Grotto doesn't distribute bass evenly by itself. Its either too intense at one end of the room and not enough at the other. The HT room continues to a wetbar and to its side a rec room. No separating walls. I will eventually close the HT room to the bar/rec area. That may solve the problem but I can always use a nice sub.

rocky1 · 02-09-07, 09:08 PM

u need 2,thats a long room(36)

Forceflow · 02-10-07, 03:01 AM

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Originally Posted by rocky1

u need 2,thats a long room(36)

that is my conclusion as well. I may just bite the bullet and get another Grotto, but a part of me just feels like its worth it to wait 2 years and redo the room properly and get a really nice sub like a Descent or something JL maybe (though the Descent is awesome).

The Grotto, as far as I can tell, has proven to be exceptional. I would really like to hear how it performs compared to other subs considering how much Hsu and SVS get talked up here. I haven't heard one of those and to my ears M-L was easily the best in my area available to me. As previously noted, the Descent crushed anything I had heard and packed 800 W RMS power. That's a fun sub. Comparisons to others would be appreciated based on that sub vs. something else.

jasenj1 · 12-27-07, 03:30 PM

I'd like to get a Dynamo, too. But the $600 price is a bit more than I'm willing to pay. I see others mentioned they picked it up on sale from BB/Magnolia. My closest Magnolia equipped BB is about 45 min away so I really don't want to be driving by frequently just to see if the Dynamo is on sale. I've been watching the BB website for the past couple months, but the Dynamo price has never budged there.

Any advice on finding it on sale?

FWIW, I'm limited to a 15"x15" footprint and less than $500. The SVS SB12-Plus is also on my "just out of reach" list. Any other suggestions for "plan-B" subs?

- Jasen.

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Davidt1 Advanced Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 745	Just bought a ML Dynamo sub Taking advantage of the BF deal at Magnolia, I bought a ML Dynamo sub this morning. I am listening to it right now. For a tiny sub, it puts out an amazing amount of power. I have the volume level set at 5 (out of 10). It puts my current sub ( Polk Audio PSW350 ) to shame. It plays faster, cleaner and louder. I will watch some movies later on. So far I am very pleased. Last edited by Davidt1; 11-24-06 at 05:04 PM..

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Davidt1 Advanced Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 745	Just a little a update. ML suggests a 50 hrs break-in. Maybe it's just in my head, but I think it sounds better already at 15 hours . I have been listening to old songs with lots of acoustic bass. This sub delivers in spades. I imagine the more expensive ML subs kick ass big time. Magnolia still has it on sale for just a little more than I paid. Suddenly my BF deal isn't so special anymore . There is one issue with this sub. The auto-on function does not kick in if the input signal is not loud. Basically, if it doesn't dectect a low frequency signal it will shut down. It's very annoying. I returned a nice MK sub before for this same problem. My 5-year Polk Audio sub does not have this problem. It stays on as long as there is a signal -- loud or soft; low or high.

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bsheldon Double Secret Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Saint Louis, MO Posts: 993	Just paly with your settings on your receiver and the gain on the sub to up the signal to the sub. If you surrently run your sub setting at -5, up it 0 or even more--simultaneously lowering the gain on your sub. Many subs have this little quirk and this seems to fix about 99% of them. Good luck. __________________ Above all, enjoy the sound. You gotta love the internet.

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nvarner Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Mableton,GA Posts: 57	2 dynamos? I have the MartinLogan Fresco's in my theatre room as the LCR and DevTechs in the back. My reciever is a Marantz sr5400. The room size is 13X24 and I was looking at either a SVS-pb12plus (899), SVS-sb12plus (699) or velodyne dd-10 (1600)---humm not! Some other velodyne like spl-1200 (960) However, after listening to the dynamo in the showroom with the exact speakers that I have. I was very impressed with it. I now am thinking of getting 2 dynamos (total about 800) and I have a BB gift certificate for about $250 which would get the costs down. Guys? What do you think? __________________ Women like Audio/Video too

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atleer New Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 14	wow, what were the bf deals there? i was looking and didn't see anything for the magnolia lines. I was looking to get the Abyss....

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Davidt1 Advanced Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 745	They had some nice stuff for 50% off. I bought from them at the previous BF too. Yeah, there were no lines. I was in and out in less than five minutes.

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Davidt1 Advanced Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 745	Thanks, bsheldon. I played with different settings, but it didn't help much. I don't want to turn the setting on the receiver too high because I read somewhere you can send distorted sound to your sub if you set it too high. Normal listening is fine. It only affects night listening when I need to keep the volume low. The sub's flexibility really comes in handy. I had it in a down-firing position for the first day. It played loud but little muddy, which fine for movies. The explosions in U-571 shook my entire room, even at moderate volume. For music, I prefer to have it in the front-firing position. It's not as loud but cleaner. Now you know there is at least one person who thinks there is a difference between down-firing and front-firing.

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rocky1 AVS Special Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: miami Posts: 1,225	The ML subs are very good subs.I personally have the grotto.If your willing to spend for 2 dynamo's why not audition the grotto.It's great for HT and really excells for music.My .02.

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nvarner Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Mableton,GA Posts: 57	Thanks Rocky1! I forgot about the gratto, but I think it costs 1100.00..but I'm not sure. With the sale and my reward certificates I can be at about 500.00 total for both of the dynamos. When I go back I will audition the gratto. What are the dimensions of your room and what are your front speakers, if you don't mind my asking. __________________ Women like Audio/Video too

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nvarner Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Mableton,GA Posts: 57	Thanks, my back surrounds are procinema 100s also. I'll be making my decision by Thursday and I'll update. __________________ Women like Audio/Video too

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atleer New Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 14	they must have those dynamos on a pretty good sale?

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nvarner Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Mableton,GA Posts: 57	Changed my mind and purchased the Abyss instead of the two Dynamos. They won't have the sub until Tuesday. I will update after I install it. ATLEER Magnolia has the Dynamo for 399. __________________ Women like Audio/Video too

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atleer New Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 14	what is their sale price on the abyss?

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brubacca Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Mount Laurel, NJ Posts: 360	Quick question on this ML sub pricing.. Was this a sale or standard pricing? I was just at Magnolia HT (Best Buy) the other day and they were charging list for the Dynamo and Abyss. How often does Tweeter/ML/Magnolia put ML speakers on sale? Thanks in advance. Charlie

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Davidt1 Advanced Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 745	Yes, I bought mine at a sale price. Yes, they have sales often. I wouldn't pay list price for any B&M product. I wouldn't pay any more than what I paid for the Dynamo. AV123 often has b-stock UFW-10s for $425. The specs on this sub look much better than that of the ML Dynamo/Abyss subs.

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brubacca Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Mount Laurel, NJ Posts: 360	Agreed. I don't pay list either. The only two places in my area that carry ML are tweeter and Magnolia HT. I have dealt with tweeter before and they are a pain in the behind to get movement on pricing. I have never delt with Magnolia HT as they are new in my area. I was hoping to walk in and use this cash burning a hole in my pocket without the hassle. How is that Dynamo treating you? Thanks for responding.

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Davidt1 Advanced Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 745	I like it very much. It is smooth and accurate. It also dispels the myth that a sub has to be big and ported for home theater use. Here is what Sound & Vision had to say about it: http://www.soundandvisionmag.com/spe...tem-page2.html This is not a review of the Dynamo; it's a review of a speaker system that included a Dynamo.

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brubacca Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Mount Laurel, NJ Posts: 360	I ordered a Silver Dynamo!!!! Magnolia/Best Buy is having a clearance at a really good price. The clearance price is for the silver version only.

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Forceflow Uppity Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 2,741	Any comparisions with Grottos? That is my sub and I want to know whether to go with a Dynamo as a pair or another brand (Grotto has sub out)? __________________ *Warning* Do not look into laser with remaining eye!!

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rocky1 AVS Special Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: miami Posts: 1,225	u need 2,thats a long room(36)

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jasenj1 Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 73	I'd like to get a Dynamo, too. But the $600 price is a bit more than I'm willing to pay. I see others mentioned they picked it up on sale from BB/Magnolia. My closest Magnolia equipped BB is about 45 min away so I really don't want to be driving by frequently just to see if the Dynamo is on sale. I've been watching the BB website for the past couple months, but the Dynamo price has never budged there. Any advice on finding it on sale? FWIW, I'm limited to a 15"x15" footprint and less than $500. The SVS SB12-Plus is also on my "just out of reach" list. Any other suggestions for "plan-B" subs? - Jasen.