The BIG movies of 2007(doesn't look so hot for HD DVD)

[mr stroke]

I am a huge HD DVD supporter and I really hope I am not forced to buy a Blu Ray or combo player, but after looking at this list of future HD DVD's it doesn't look so hot. IMO a huge part of the format war will be won with the software, and BLu Ray looks to have ALL the HUGE 07 hits on its hands Spidey, Pirates, Die Hard, etc.....does anyone think that HD DVD can still win with out having these HUGE blockbuster movies?


300
Warner Bros-BOTH
TMNT
Warner Bros-BOTH
Are We Done Yet?
Columbia-BLU RAY
Spider-man 3
Columbia-BLU RAY
28 Weeks Later
Fox Atomic-BLU RAY
Shrek The Third
DreamWorks-BOTH??????
Pirates Of The Caribbean: At Worlds End
Walt Disney Pictures-BLU RAY
Ocean's 13
Warner Bros-BOTH
Surf's Up
Columbia-BLU RAY
Fantastic Four: Rise Of The Silver Surfer
20th Century Fox-BLU RAY
Evan Almighty
Universal Pictures-HD DVD
Live Free Or Die Hard
20th Century Fox-BLU RAY
Ratatouille
Walt Disney Pictures/pixar-BLU RAY
Transformers
DreamWorks · Paramount-BOTH
Harry Potter And The Order Of The Phoenix
Warner Bros-BOTH
The Simpsons Movie
20th Century Fox-BLU RAY
The Bourne Ultimatum
Universal Pictures-HD DVD
Rush Hour 3
New Line Cinema-BOTH?
Revenge Of The Nerds
Fox Atomic-BLU RAY
Saw IV
Lionsgate-BLU RAY
Alien Vs. Predator: Survival Of The Fittest
20th Century Fox-BLU RAY
National Treasure 2
Walt Disney Pictures-BLU RAY

[theforce8686]

That is why 2 months ago I sold my Toshiba and my 30 HD dvds and purchased a BD player. I dont have a preference for Electronic Brand Names, I have a preference for the Movies themselves. I store my standard DVDs (about 750 or so) by movie company as I like having all the logos match up and have been doing this for years. When I looked at my Universal titles, and I looked at my Sony, Fox, and Buena Vista, and lionsgate the totals werent close. As were any list of past releases or future releases. Im sorry for all of you who hate Sony but as of this post they have control of the movies.

[Ishmael198]

Originally Posted by theforce8686

Im sorry for all of you who hate Sony but as of this post they have control of the movies.

They do?

Where?

I wouldn't count on seeing Pirates 3 on BD in 07, you still don't even have Pirates 1 or 2.

Ditto for the adventures of Spidey.

Other than those 2, this list has eased my mind that most of the potentially awesome movies (300, Transformers) are surely hitting HD-DVD.

But if having an exclusive on Revenge of the Nerds remake justifies your BD purchase, congrats.

[Michael Mullis]

Sorry, I thought this was the HD DVD part of the forum?
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Oh I forgot, we can't go a day without the usual "OMG THE SKY IS FALLING, HD DVD IS DOOMED" thread.

[mr stroke]

Originally Posted by Michael Mullis

Sorry, I thought this was the HD DVD part of the forum?
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Oh I forgot, we can't go a day without the usual "OMG THE SKY IS FALLING, HD DVD IS DOOMED" thread.

I don't think HD DVD is doomed its sales can atest to that...but the only thing that worries me is that list of movies. 2007 could be a record breaking year for the box office with the amount of record breaking sequels coming out. Can anyone out there honestly say that HD DVD isn't in dier need of studio support??
trust me I really hope I am wrong here as I love my HD DVD player and do not want it to become a doorstop.

[nyg]

As Blu-ray supporters have said all along, studio support matters. Sure HD DVD looks great but if they can't get more studio support how can they compete longterm?

[Michael Mullis]

Because until those exclusive comapnies stop making SD DVD's of their Blu-ray movies, the average person isn't going to stop buying those in addition to the HD DVD's they are buying.

BTW, why don't we wait for CES and see what gets announced? BD companies HAVE to blow their wad before the show in a desperate attempt to get people to notice them. The problem is they're using $999 standalones and trying to get people to think the PS3 is a standalone player too.

If Toshiba drops the price of their players, then more are going to sell. That means more movie sales. At some point BD studios are going to stop looking at the BDA and start looking at their cash flow.

[Kyle_D]

You're forgetting David Fincher's new film Zodiac, which is Universal -> HD-DVD.

Also

There Will Be Blood (Paramount - BOTH)
No Country For Old Men (Paramount - BOTH)
American Gangster (Universal - HD-DVD)
Grindhouse (Weinstein - HD-DVD)
Kill Bill: The Whole Bloody Affair (Weinstein - HD-DVD) *Assuming this is actually released
Black Snake Moan (Paramount - BOTH)
Smokin' Aces (Universal - HD-DVD)
I am Legend (Warner - Both)
The Golden Compass (New Line - BOTH?)
3:10 to Yuma (Lion's Gate - Blu-Ray)
Beowulf (Warner - Both)
Hairspray (New Line - Both?)
Charlie Wilson's War (Universal - HD-DVD)
10,000 B.C. (Warner - Both)

[Kocheese99]

As a current HD supporter the key thing i try to remember right now is that everything is very fluid right now. I expect alot of changes to happen this year one way or another. In fact we've already received two shocking announcements so far this year and i don't think anyone expected those. And if those announcements give any idea of what to expect for the year then i guess we should expect the unexpected.

I would wait till after CES before i even consider worrying about anything. And even after that i wouldn't worry about any of the 2007 movies until they are in the theatres. Because alot can change by then, heck we could have one format by then.

[theforce8686]

Originally Posted by Ishmael198

They do?

Where?

I wouldn't count on seeing Pirates 3 on BD in 07, you still don't even have Pirates 1 or 2.

Ditto for the adventures of Spidey.

Other than those 2, this list has eased my mind that most of the potentially awesome movies (300, Transformers) are surely hitting HD-DVD.

But if having an exclusive on Revenge of the Nerds remake justifies your BD purchase, congrats.

You mean Bd hasnt dumped 75% of there big movies from the last 5 years like Universal has into their format yet? Are trying to surprise me that a few months into the format war and a few days before the first CES of the war that we havent heard any of the huge titles from the BD exclusive company. I was just sharing my opinion as I have owned both. When I made the switch I looked at the list and realized that if things didnt change studio wise that I was gonna be missing a lot more and better titles from the exclusive BD camps. Im not saying HD is dead. Im just saying that I didnt want to support 2 formats and I didnt want to support one that as time went on was going to be missing more and more movies unless studios jumped or went neutral. If your HD only and happy about it then congratulations and enjoy. Im not preaching, just responding to the original post and sharing my experience and opinion.

[Forceflow]

Originally Posted by Kyle_D

You're forgetting David Fincher's new film Zodiac, which is Universal -> HD-DVD.

Also

There Will Be Blood (Paramount - BOTH)
No Country For Old Men (Paramount - BOTH)
American Gangster (Universal - HD-DVD)
Grindhouse (Weinstein - HD-DVD)
Kill Bill: The Whole Bloody Affair (Weinstein - HD-DVD) *Assuming this is actually released
Black Snake Moan (Paramount - BOTH)
Smokin' Aces (Universal - HD-DVD)
I am Legend (Warner - Both)
The Golden Compass (New Line - BOTH?)
3:10 to Yuma (Lion's Gate - Blu-Ray)
Beowulf (Warner - Both)
Hairspray (New Line - Both?)
Charlie Wilson's War (Universal - HD-DVD)
10,000 B.C. (Warner - Both)

I suspect this was intentional. Clearly a bait thread. We all know BD studios announce well in advance and some of those announced titles don't show. HD DVD studios announce in spurts and those are often not in advance. Movies will come, the Matrix is one that for sure will be coming as the first movie has been completed for some time now. They (last I heard) are simply waiting to release them as a trilogy (get more $).

[Capek]

Originally Posted by mr stroke

I don't think HD DVD is doomed its sales can atest to that...but the only thing that worries me is that list of movies. 2007 could be a record breaking year for the box office with the amount of record breaking sequels coming out. Can anyone out there honestly say that HD DVD isn't in dier need of studio support??
trust me I really hope I am wrong here as I love my HD DVD player and do not want it to become a doorstop. :(

WTF is with people saying this??

Sony doesn't get to send a self destruct signal to every HD-DVD player if BD were to win the format war. They'll still play the ~150 movies out right now, and all the movies that will be released in the future. I mean, come on people, stop trying so damn hard to look so damn dumb.

[Shuley]

this format war is like a street fight, If you and your 2 other friends (Toshiba,Universal) are in the street and you see a 150 bad guys (150 members in BDA) coming after you to beat you up...who do you think is going to win...it's 3 vs 150.

[theforce8686]

Originally Posted by Forceflow

I suspect this was intentional. Clearly a bait thread. We all know BD studios announce well in advance and some of those announced titles don't show. HD DVD studios announce in spurts and those are often not in advance. Movies will come, the Matrix is one that for sure will be coming as the first movie has been completed for some time now. They (last I heard) are simply waiting to release them as a trilogy (get more $).

I guess you didnt read the title or original post. This has nothing to do with titles released on the BD or HD discs. It has to do with the movies released in theatres for 2007 and what studios released them so that we know which format they will end up on. And as for the "Projected " top 22 movies or so, only 2 are exclusive HD content while 13 are exclusive BD and 7 neutral or undecided. So in 2008 when all of these come out on home video HD only owners will be a little let down.

[jim_r]

This thread is so childish, just like all of AVS has become. If you are losing sleep over owning an HD-DVD player and discs, then sell them and buy a Blu-ray player and discs. If you have already made the switch, then why are you here? Go to the Blu-ray section and have a party. But, please stop this nonsense with crying about a slowdown in HD-DVD releases over the past month and studio support, especiallly when CES is just a few days away. Can't you at least control yourselves until after that? I swear, it's like AVS has become a playground for children with ADHD.

[Capek]

Originally Posted by Shuley

this format war is like a street fight, If you and your 2 other friends (Toshiba,Universal) are in the street and you see a 150 bad guys (150 members in BDA) coming after you to beat you up...who do you think is going to win...it's 3 vs 150.

Hey I can chose numbers arbitrarily to represent both sides. It's really 945983934059569328 on the side of HD-DVD, versus 43 on the side of BD. Hey, that was fun. Making meaningless posts really is fun. Thanks for the tip. I'll be sure to try it more often. Thanks again.

[joerod]

I have 95 HD DVD titles (and growing) so either way my XA2 is here to stay. Just like my 92 DTHEATER titles and now 35(and growing) Blu ray titles...

[Kyle_D]

For comparisons sake, to date, of the top 22 releases in 2006, only 3 are exclusive to HD-DVD, 13 to Blu-ray, and the rest format neutral, so your "projected" top 22 are really no different than last year. HD-DVD has been holding its own just fine so far.

That's not to say that HD-DVD does not need more studio support since it certainly does, but there are other factors at play.

why don't we wait for CES and see what gets announced? BD companies HAVE to blow their wad before the show in a desperate attempt to get people to notice them. The problem is they're using $999 standalones and trying to get people to think the PS3 is a standalone player too.

If Toshiba drops the price of their players, then more are going to sell. That means more movie sales. At some point BD studios are going to stop looking at the BDA and start looking at their cash flow.

Exactly.

[theforce8686]

Originally Posted by Kyle_D

For comparisons sake, to date, of the top 22 releases in 2006, only 3 are exclusive to HD-DVD, 13 to Blu-ray, and the rest format neutral, so your "projected" top 22 are really no different than last year. HD-DVD has been holding its own just fine so far.

That's not to say that HD-DVD does not need more studio support since it certainly does, but there are other factors at play.



Exactly.

The only difference is that Universal has released 14 of its top 20 movies over the last 5 years and The Bd exclusive companies have only release a few total. They are smart enough to realize that it is too early to release the big guns and will be sprinkle them throughout the next few years as they see fit.

[Capek]

Originally Posted by theforce8686

The only difference is that Universal has released 14 of its top 20 movies over the last 5 years and The Bd exclusive companies have only release a few total. They are smart enough to realize that it is too early to release the big guns and will be sprinkle them throughout the next few years as they see fit.

Please explain your definition of "smart". Their tactics have generated enough interest in the format to sell a mind blowing 25,000 stand alone players, compared to 120,000 stand alones for HD-DVD. Coupled with what meager sw sales data we have, I'm not sure how anyone could synthesize that and come out with anything resembling the concept of "smart" in reference to the decisions made by BD supporting studios.

[theforce8686]

Originally Posted by Capek

Please explain your definition of "smart". Their tactics have generated enough interest in the format to sell a mind blowing 25,000 stand alone players, compared to 120,000 stand alones for HD-DVD. Coupled with what meager sw sales data we have, I'm not sure how anyone could synthesize that and come out with anything resembling the concept of "smart" in reference to the decisions made by BD supporting studios.

Wow. 125,000. Stop the presses and shut down BD and SD. The market has been captured. Lol. I dont know exact software sales numbers but Every site Ive read and thread on here has basically all agreed that BD has just about caught, if not passed HD for Software sales (many thanks to PS3 owners but again, dont know how many) If Bd has done that and still has about 90% of there big name titles then what can HD due to keep up. They cant keep up Software wise without added studio support.

Smart is waiting for more players to be in homes before releasing most of your titles.

[HomerJay]

Originally Posted by Capek

WTF is with people saying this??

Sony doesn't get to send a self destruct signal to every HD-DVD player if BD were to win the format war. They'll still play the ~150 movies out right now, and all the movies that will be released in the future. I mean, come on people, stop trying so damn hard to look so damn dumb.

NO KIDDING!! Funny thing...when I plugged in my HD DVD player, my D-VHS tapes all disintegrated... ...as long as the player and software work, you're set!

As for how things look movie wise. I have no concerns whatsoever. Everyone involved with HD DVD has delivered and how!...sure it's been Blu-ray this and Blu-ray that in the "news" circuits (some sites are quite the joke!) but in the end quite a bit of it ends up being a bunch of bull and we all know that. The HD camp, on the other hand has made it routine to hold off announcements until last minute. Why take the bang out of the CES nuclear attack I'm sure the HD camp is going to wage on Blu-ray...

[trgraphics]

Why is it that only the oddball BR supporters think that BR has surpassed HD DVD in any fashion whatsoever? This with a five to one ratio in player sales for HD DVD with only one ce company. With films ahead in sales since day one with limited studio support.

Amazing, truly amazing that anyone can claim that HD DVD is any trouble at all with these kind of numbers. I guess the classes I attended in economics were all wrong! Hell, I guess the math classes were wrong as well.

I have never seen a more nervous group in my life than the BR zealots that post their crap in the HD DVD section of this forum.

You should be out buying players and movies. Your beloved BR is in serious need of life support.

[paulstachniak]

Two of the movies mentioned in the original list will be worth my time and probably purchase.

Bourne and Harry Potter, I couldn't care less about Alien Vs Preditor 2. (or did you not see the first one)

[randym431]

Well I'll chime in here. I'm still concerned my vhs will be over taken by betamax. Like I mean, it "could" happen?

I'm not worried. Toshiba has a nice little slim Hd player coming (maybe its out already?).

PS. Reds was just fantastic in HD. I had to go out and buy it after netflixing it. I couldnt believe the HD quality. I take back what I said once on them bringing back older films in HD dvd. It IS a smart move!

[thalazy]

Let us not forget the wonderful PS3 which is sitting on store shelf waiting to be purchased. I had been to many stores thurs and fri buying hd dvd movies and saw several at a local BB and saw a huge stack of PS3 that were there from at least Thursday. I haven't hear anything about BLu ray catching up to dvd I have only heard player laying on shelves since launch of the Samsung player. regardless hd dvd support is only going to grow the sales numbers for players and movies is too good for most studios to pass up. Worst case scenario we get neutral support from most studios excluding the Sony owned ones.

[hd nOOb]

Why doesn't HD DVD get any announcments?

[LAGOSIAN]

Originally Posted by mr stroke

I am a huge HD DVD supporter and I really hope I am not forced to buy a Blu Ray or combo player, but after looking at this list of future HD DVD's it doesn't look so hot. IMO a huge part of the format war will be won with the software, and BLu Ray looks to have ALL the HUGE 07 hits on its hands Spidey, Pirates, Die Hard, etc.....does anyone think that HD DVD can still win with out having these HUGE blockbuster movies?


300
Warner Bros-BOTH
TMNT
Warner Bros-BOTH
Are We Done Yet?
Columbia-BLU RAY
Spider-man 3
Columbia-BLU RAY
28 Weeks Later
Fox Atomic-BLU RAY
Shrek The Third
DreamWorks-BOTH??????
Pirates Of The Caribbean: At Worlds End
Walt Disney Pictures-BLU RAY
Ocean's 13
Warner Bros-BOTH
Surf's Up
Columbia-BLU RAY
Fantastic Four: Rise Of The Silver Surfer
20th Century Fox-BLU RAY
Evan Almighty
Universal Pictures-HD DVD
Live Free Or Die Hard
20th Century Fox-BLU RAY
Ratatouille
Walt Disney Pictures/pixar-BLU RAY
Transformers
DreamWorks · Paramount-BOTH
Harry Potter And The Order Of The Phoenix
Warner Bros-BOTH
The Simpsons Movie
20th Century Fox-BLU RAY
The Bourne Ultimatum
Universal Pictures-HD DVD
Rush Hour 3
New Line Cinema-BOTH?
Revenge Of The Nerds
Fox Atomic-BLU RAY
Saw IV
Lionsgate-BLU RAY
Alien Vs. Predator: Survival Of The Fittest
20th Century Fox-BLU RAY
National Treasure 2
Walt Disney Pictures-BLU RAY

Looks LIKE A bait thread to me!
None of these movies have been released yet.
By the time they are even released the war might be over, or all studios could have gone format neutral.

Besides, apart from "Fantastic 4" and "spider man 3", the so-called biggest movies on your list are all going to be on HD DVD as well, if not exclusively!

The same premise can be used for the HD DVD upcoming movies for 2007 listed in the HD DVD Promotion Group's website; http://www.hddvdprg.com/eng/list/list.pdf

Buy a BR player if you wish, I did. But keep these bait and irresponsible threads where they belong; inside your mind.
We need facts and info, not a reason to argue and fight over the obvious!

[Chad R]

Originally Posted by Ishmael198

But if having an exclusive on Revenge of the Nerds remake justifies your BD purchase, congrats.

Not to mention that production of the "Revenge of the Nerds" sequel was shut down when the college used as a location kicked them out. A suitable replacement was unavailable (read: no one would have them) and the production was cancelled.

[ManiG]

Originally Posted by mr stroke

300
Warner Bros-BOTH
TMNT
Warner Bros-BOTH
Are We Done Yet?
Columbia-BLU RAY
Spider-man 3
Columbia-BLU RAY
28 Weeks Later
Fox Atomic-BLU RAY
Shrek The Third
DreamWorks-BOTH??????
Pirates Of The Caribbean: At Worlds End
Walt Disney Pictures-BLU RAY
Ocean's 13
Warner Bros-BOTH
Surf's Up
Columbia-BLU RAY
Fantastic Four: Rise Of The Silver Surfer
20th Century Fox-BLU RAY
Evan Almighty
Universal Pictures-HD DVD
Live Free Or Die Hard
20th Century Fox-BLU RAY
Ratatouille
Walt Disney Pictures/pixar-BLU RAY
Transformers
DreamWorks · Paramount-BOTH
Harry Potter And The Order Of The Phoenix
Warner Bros-BOTH
The Simpsons Movie
20th Century Fox-BLU RAY
The Bourne Ultimatum
Universal Pictures-HD DVD
Rush Hour 3
New Line Cinema-BOTH?
Revenge Of The Nerds
Fox Atomic-BLU RAY
Saw IV
Lionsgate-BLU RAY
Alien Vs. Predator: Survival Of The Fittest
20th Century Fox-BLU RAY
National Treasure 2
Walt Disney Pictures-BLU RAY

The majority of those movies are stinkers, so who gives a damn.