2007 line of Toshiba REGZA LCD HDTV's!

[gate1975mlm]

http://www.hardwarezone.com/news/vie...336&cid=5&pg=2


Toshiba Introduces New HD DVD player and REGZA LCD TVs
By Daniel Lim
Home Theater Systems | Just Announced
Tue 09 Jan 2007
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Toshiba Dramatically Enhances REGZA LCD Flat Panel TV Line Capitalizing on Momentum From Successful Brand Launch
Positioned to continue expanding its share in the LCD TV market, Toshiba introduces 13 new REGZA models offering larger screen sizes, state-of-the-art picture technologies and beautiful high-gloss designs

CES, LAS VEGAS, Jan. 7 -- Toshiba America Consumer Products, L.L.C. ("Toshiba") announced today its newly enhanced LCD flat panel line at CES 2007. In a move designed to build on the momentum from its May 2006 REGZA brand launch, Toshiba is rolling out 13 new REGZA models including new high level picture technologies, larger screen sizes and beautiful new high-gloss cosmetic designs.

Toshiba's REGZA LCD line includes new models ranging from 26" diagonally measured all the way up to 57" diagonally measured - the 52" and 57" screen sizes are new and on display at CES. New industry leading enhancement technologies found in the line include PixelPure3G, DynaLight, ColorBurst, ClearFrame and CE-Link.

"The acceptance of REGZA in the marketplace has been stunning," said Scott Ramirez, Vice President of Marketing. "Our market share in 32"+ LCD has nearly tripled in just six months. The combination of high quality you can trust, leading technology to take you into the future, and true consumer value, is making REGZA the smart choice."

For 2007, Toshiba has enhanced overall image quality yet again, creating a new line of REGZA LCD TV with picture quality that is truly second to none. In addition to its continued commitment to image quality, Toshiba has now focused on creating cabinetry that will also set REGZA apart. All new 2007 REGZA models now feature beautiful high-gloss black cabinetry with Toshiba's slim SoundStrip(TM) speaker technology. SoundStrip enables more compact cabinetry, without sacrificing the big home theater sound, creating a more modern high-class look.

REGZA 720p - HL67 & LV67 Series

Toshiba's REGZA line includes six 720p models ranging from 26" diagonally measured to the new 42" diagonally measured. These televisions include new advanced Toshiba technologies such as PixelPure3G and DynaLight. The new Toshiba PixelPure3G advanced 14-bit internal digital video processing offers 4,096 levels of gradation for 16 times the gradation levels of standard 8-bit systems, and now creates cleaner more natural images by incorporating new enhanced MPEG noise reduction technology. Unlike standard LCD panels, the new CineSpeed panels incorporate DynaLight dynamic backlight control. This system works with PixelPure to monitor the brightness of the incoming video signal, and then adjust the backlight intensity to maximize contrast. This system creates a dynamic contrast that is up to 5X that of the original panel contrast, significantly improving black levels for deep images in virtually any viewing environment.

For 2007, REGZA 720p models truly stand out with beautiful high-gloss black cabinetry, currently uncommon in this category. Plus, the entire 2007 REGZA line also includes ATSC/QAM digital tuning, SRS WOW(TM) sound, a PC input, and three HDMI(TM) inputs for simple and complete all-digital connectivity.

Toshiba will also offer two REGZA LCDVD models in 26" diagonally measured and 32" diagonally measured sizes. These models offer all of the advanced technologies of the REGZA 720p TV models, plus a built-in DVD player with internal upconversion to 720p for HD display.
REGZA 1080p Full HD - HL167 Series

Toshiba continues to expand its 1080p offering and is adding a 52" diagonally measured LCD model to its REGZA 1080p Full HD line-up, which already includes 42" and 47" diagonally measured models.

2007 REGZA 1080p Full HD models all accept 1080p input signals and include enhancements such as ColorBurst, and CE-Link (HDMI - CEC). While a standard LCD TV may only reproduce 72% of the NTSC color gamut, ColorBurst is a wide color gamut LCD that can reproduce 90%+ for 25% more color. REGZA 1080p Full HD models now provide both enhanced resolution and increased color depth for richer colors and more realistic images. CE-Link allows two-way control between the TV and applicable source devices, such as HD DVD, through the HDMI cable. The user can use the TV remote to control the source devices, or the source devices to control the TV, allowing simplified operation. Because no IR is needed, the source devices can be placed in a cabinet or closet, which is perfect for flat panel TV applications. To ensure flexible remote connectivity of non CE-Link source devices, Full HD models also include an IR Pass-Through jack.

2007 REGZA 1080p Full HD models feature new step-up high-gloss black cabinetry that further differentiates the 720p and 1080p Full HD series. These models also include Toshiba's Native Mode, which provides clean 1080p pixel-for-pixel display without any overscanning.

Cinema Series REGZA 1080p Full HD - LX177 Series

In addition to the many enhancements made throughout the new REGZA line, Toshiba is proud to offer four new Cinema Series REGZA 1080p Full HD models in 42", 46", and new 52" and 57" diagonally measured screen sizes - 57" is the largest flat panel TV Toshiba has offered yet. In addition to the features and benefits of all the new REGZA models mentioned above, 2007 Cinema Series REGZA models also feature new ClearFrame 120 Hz anti-blur technology. This advanced technology doubles the frame rate from 60 frames per second to 120 frames per second using Motion Vector Frame Interpolation, virtually eliminating motion blur without adding flicker or reducing image brightness. This makes Cinema Series REGZA the perfect choice for fast action movies and sports. The Cinema Series REGZA HDMI connections also include Deep Color and XVycc technology for further enhanced color space.

Cinema Series REGZA 1080p Full HD models also feature a new and innovative premium cabinet design with new SoundStrip2 technology. This technology utilizes an acoustic chamber within the set to develop rich bass, natural voices and crisp highs, all with a further reduced cabinet height enhancing the overall Cinema Series design.

In addition, Cinema Series REGZA models target high-end home theater applications with connectivity such as an IR input and a THINC RJ-45 connection, plus Virtual Dolby(R) sound and a new 6-Item A/V illuminated universal remote.

Expected Availability

REGZA
26HL67 (March/April 2007)
32HL67 (March/April 2007)
37HL67 (March/April 2007)
42HL67 (March/April 2007)

REGZA LCDVD
26LV67 (March/April 2007)
32LV67 (March/April 2007)

REGZA 1080p Full HD
42HL167 (March/April 2007)
47HL167 (June/July 2007)
52HL167 (June/July 2007)

Cinema Series REGZA 1080p Full HD
42LX177 (June/July 2007)
46LX177 (June/July 2007)
52LX177 (June/July 2007)
57LX177 (June/July 2007)

[lorenzow]

I wonder what the CR rating is. Last year's models were only 800:1. Now that SED is effectively dead, maybe Toshiba are finally getting serious about LCD.

[87-XLT]

I read the review of the UK version of the 32" Regza at trustedreviews.com a few months ago & it sounds like the new US version is the same TV.

And based on their review, thats a very good thing.

[gate1975mlm]

http://crave.cnet.com/8301-1_105-9672518-1.html

[scottgriz]

Buydig.com is offering to upgrade to the 37hl67 if you order the 37hl66. Turns out to be $20 less than if you order the 67. I'd just be worried that I would end up getting a 66.
With free shipping, it is very tempting. I am still up in the air about ordering something so large and expensive on-line. The price is certainly good, but is piece of mind worth paying more locally, knowing you can bring it back somewhere if you have a problem. I imaging it costs a fortune to ship it if it needs to go out for repair.

[Slowrod]

Has anyone had a chance to see any of these in a B&M store yet?

[scottgriz]

I had a chance to see the 32hl67 at BB. Quite nice. Standard def pic was nice as well.
I didn't have a lot of time to play around with it or watch a lot of content. I'm also mainly interested in the 37" and want to see it in person before dropping the money on it.
I am also not completely sold on the piano black. I wish more companies would move away from it and not towards it. To me, one reason for buying an LCD is to get a matte finish on the screen. Why would I want the glossy frame to have distracting reflections.
Does anyone have the 37" who can comment on the picture quality, SD and HD.

[deanstevenson]

Originally Posted by scottgriz

I am also not completely sold on the piano black. I wish more companies would move away from it and not towards it. To me, one reason for buying an LCD is to get a matte finish on the screen. Why would I want the glossy frame to have distracting reflections.

I could not agree more. Toshiba was in my top brands for consideration and this decision has just knocked them out of the running. Why would anyone want a reflective surface on their television set?

Others I'm still considering are Sharp, Samsung, and JVC. I'd consider getting a Sony (love the xbr2) but their prices continue to be too high. I'm willing to pay a premium, but not that much.

[dubhead]

Originally Posted by scottgriz

I am also not completely sold on the piano black. I wish more companies would move away from it and not towards it. To me, one reason for buying an LCD is to get a matte finish on the screen. Why would I want the glossy frame to have distracting reflections.
Does anyone have the 37" who can comment on the picture quality, SD and HD.

I've browsed AVS many times but joined only recently as the time had come... blah, blah, but shocked was I to see little mention of the aesthetics of screen design etc. on extended searches through these Forums.

I started a thread about Piano Black and apparently there was a poll already conducted on AVS that concluded "Shiny is in!" :

[url=http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=832809]

In fact my wife was horrified when I showed her the hideous piano black finish of the Sharp LC37D62U (1080p) it's such a "statement" and will entirely take over our small NYC apartment living room space. However it stilll seems to be my favoured option in terms of price/specs ratio so I guess I'll have to get used to shiny.

Personally, my take on it is the companies seem to think it adds perceived value to make it glossy and helps maintain their ever decreasing profit margins

[JSchultz]

Bump. I work at CC, and just got the 42HL67 up and running. I kinda like it for MSRP of $1399.

Although, it looks like this set is screaming for a calibration. OTA HD looks meh, but it's split 9393484848 different ways in my store.

[jedi29]

Anyone have an opinion as to the new ( or last years ) Toshiba lcd`s as compaired to the Sony XBR2 + 3 also the V2500 series.
In other words , do you think there will be cloudy issues like the Sony`s or will they be a-ok?
How is the build quality of the upper end Toshiba`s ?
Model that I have in mind and am waiting to see is the 42LX177.
Please state any views you may have , thanks
Gary

[jmbreci]

I can compare (somewhat) the 37HL67 to the 40" V2500 in the next couple of weeks. I get my Toshiba next weekend and my in-laws have the 2500.

I will state that I have not noticed any of the "cloudy" issues on the 2500 at my in-laws. They got their 2500 in early December.

[mikelets456]

I bought the 32HL66 for my bedroom. I got it at boscovs...secret sale $899 -10% and a $40 giftcard. Comes out to about $770 and no payments for 1 year.. This is my first flat panel experience....I have a Hitachi 52" RP HD CRT. The CRT is far more forgiving than LCD flat panel in respect to artifacts and compression through Directv.

Anyway, at least comparing on the video feeds at the store, I could not justify spending the extra $700 for the Sony. The Toshiba overall has a nice picture and black levels are good, but not like my Hitachi of course.

Usinf Directv and HDMI vs component, Picture is very close and actually component looks softer but more natural. HDMI looks vibrant but a few more artifacts enter the picture.
I have to do more tests with Avia, etc...but overall it's nice with the exception of artifacts while up close.

[mikelets456]

Update: I turned on the "noise reductions" and it made a tremendous difference in SD/HD material without losing much in detail. It actually appears more like my Hitachi and how that handles compression artifacts. I have not run the Avia tests yet, but may do so by this weekend...re-doing my family room. For the money, so far, it seems like a decent TV. Like I mentioned before I am new to the "flat panel" world so I can only compare what I've seen at stores and my 52" RP Hitachi.

[megashock5]

Anyone hearing anything about the 46LX177 being carried at either CC or BB?

Thanks!

[gameling]

In the past, CC and BB did not carry the Cinema Series or Cinema Series Pro lines. The Pro is gone for 2007 and I suspect since the HL167 series is starting to appear that BB and CC will continue to only carry the lower line. With Tweeter closing all their California stores I can't think of any Cinema Series vendors in San Diego County anymore. Too bad...

[brizzology]

Scott (and others) -- I just picked up the 37HL67 from FedEx/******* today and started playing around with it. I want to wait 24 hours before writing a review, so I can get more of a chance to calibrate more, watch some movies, HDTV, etc at night and during daytime (my living room is extremely bright). So I'll try to post more details tomorrow. But my initial impression is that it handles SD content much better than my previous HDTV (a Sony 37XBR800 -- good ol' CRT!), and HD looks excellent. I'll try to see if the piano gloss is a distraction while I watch during day and night, and let you all know what I think....

[btstarke]

Originally Posted by megashock5

Anyone hearing anything about the 46LX177 being carried at either CC or BB?

Thanks!

the 47HL167 will be the largest and highest line CC will carry. I am not over impressed with them (never have with toshiba LCD's) but you get a whole lot for the price point.

I have ours right beside a 40V2500 and 4065F sammy and the both the sony and sammy outdo the toshiba but the only one that really stands out is the sammy 4065f.

[JSchultz]

Ok,

My store (CC) finally got the 1080p model in. I eagerly unboxed it, but ultimately was dissapointed. Sure, it has a low MSRP, but the picture quality just isn't there. I'd be more inclined to spend the extra $300 on the Sammy or Sony. For the same price, the archaic-by-now LC42D62u is a better buy.

[mikelets456]

Originally Posted by JSchultz

Ok,

My store (CC) finally got the 1080p model in. I eagerly unboxed it, but ultimately was dissapointed. Sure, it has a low MSRP, but the picture quality just isn't there. I'd be more inclined to spend the extra $300 on the Sammy or Sony. For the same price, the archaic-by-now LC42D62u is a better buy.

What are your settings? I thought this at first until I calibrated it and set noise reductions to high. Before I calibrated it, I thought that this is typical of LCD...CRAP!!!
After messing around with it, I am very impressed. There is LESS artifacting than with my Hitachi RP CRT...granite this is a 32" compared to 51", but I'm only 3-7 feet away on the 32" (bedroom) and 12'-14' on the Hitachi....Even up close on MOST channels the artifacts are minimal.

The only thing, there is no remote code on the directv remote that will work...small issue. Just more $$$ I'll have to fork out.

[megashock5]

Originally Posted by btstarke

the 47HL167 will be the largest and highest line CC will carry. I am not over impressed with them (never have with toshiba LCD's) but you get a whole lot for the price point.

I have ours right beside a 40V2500 and 4065F sammy and the both the sony and sammy outdo the toshiba but the only one that really stands out is the sammy 4065f.

That's unfortunate. The 167 isn't a 120Hz set, correct? That's one of the main thing's I was hoping to see in person with the 177.

[btstarke]

Originally Posted by megashock5

That's unfortunate. The 167 isn't a 120Hz set, correct? That's one of the main thing's I was hoping to see in person with the 177.

correct its a standard 60hz set.

We actually sold 2 of them last night mainly because they are 1080P sets and the price point.

[funkc]

I compared the new Toshiba against the new Samsung. HD picture I thought
was pretty close, however in SD the Toshiba was much better and had a matte
screen and showed less glare than the Samsung. Walked away thinking I want
the Toshiba but I am concerned with motion blur and the store did'nt have any-
thing on with fast motion. Has anyone seen how the Toshiba does with motion blur.

[mikelets456]

Originally Posted by funkc

I compared the new Toshiba against the new Samsung. HD picture I thought
was pretty close, however in SD the Toshiba was much better and had a matte
screen and showed less glare than the Samsung. Walked away thinking I want
the Toshiba but I am concerned with motion blur and the store did'nt have any-
thing on with fast motion. Has anyone seen how the Toshiba does with motion blur.

Which model and size? If your concerned with motion blur, you may want to wait until June/July for the 1080P 120Hz models to come out.

[funkc]

Sorry meant the 42hl167. Just anxious I guess been waiting for awhile, I have a
building project starting in June and was hoping to have a tv ready for the
contractor to mount on the wall along with all the wiring etc.

[megashock5]

Originally Posted by btstarke

correct its a standard 60hz set.

We actually sold 2 of them last night mainly because they are 1080P sets and the price point.

Yeah? What's the price point (as far as we're allowed to discuss)?

I've been looking at the Samsung 4661, but the 46LX177 caught my eye since it was 120Hz at the same price.

[rickd123]

We have had the 32HL67 for about a week. Got it from Electronics Depot for 870.00 with shipping (excellent transaction, arrived 6 days after order from west coast to east).

Set up was easy. HD looks GREAT! Stunning actually (our first HDTV...). The SD channels didn't look good at first, but after getting the settings on both the TV and our 8300HD Cable box set correctly, they look very good.

We have a Toshiba DVD player (not upconvert, just progressive) and standard DVDs look fantastic. We have an Oppo upconvert DVD player arriving soon, looking forward to making a comparison.

We have a series 2 Tivo hooked into the S video input. The image at this point does not seem as clear as it was on our SD tv (somewhat grainy), but I haven't had time to investigate yet.

We are very satisfied with the TV overall. The 3 hdmi inputs "future proof" the set.

Rick
NH

[Pezlion]

Does anyone have some decent settings for the 32HL67 that I could use when checking out this tv?

[mikelets456]

Originally Posted by Pezlion

Does anyone have some decent settings for the 32HL67 that I could use when checking out this tv?

Contrast 62
backlight 64
dynalight on
brightness 63
color 58
tint +7
sharpness 60
dynamic contrast high
static gamma +4
noise reduction both on high.

I have not gone through with the Avia disk and won't have a chance until this weekend. However, these settings look very accptable in SD and REALLY good in HD!!!

[Kickoa1]

Do any of these sets have HDMI 1.3?

Any one know if they have HDMI 1.3?