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Old 01-19-07, 12:34 AM   #1   |  Link


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Blu-Ray sales outpace HDDVD 4 weeks straight...

This taken from the Retail Insider an insiders magazine for Best Buy employees:


But I thought ps3 owners don't care about movies?
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Old 01-19-07, 12:50 AM   #2   |  Link
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Why are you rolling your eyes in your own thread?

If you think PS3 owners don't care about movies that would be a gross misgeneralization.
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Those guys are going to look very stupid for not doing their due diligence before publishing those 'facts'.
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Old 01-19-07, 01:09 AM   #4   |  Link
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Why are you rolling your eyes in your own thread?

If you think PS3 owners don't care about movies that would be a gross misgeneralization.
rolling my eyes to be sarcastic obviously.
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Old 01-19-07, 01:17 AM   #5   |  Link
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Let's take these articles in stride. No need to gloat. Let's not turn this into the HD DVD forum. Superiority complexes are sooo 1-7-07 to 1-14-07
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Old 01-19-07, 01:38 AM   #6   |  Link
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great news for blu-ray, and proof that HD-DVD biased sites like dvdwars are way off on total retail sales where Blu-ray is winning!
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Old 01-19-07, 01:39 AM   #7   |  Link
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rolling my eyes to be sarcastic obviously.

Sarcasm is for weak communicators and that's not you Brian.

I happen to think that article is spot on. There are so many solid titles now popping up for Blu-ray the numbers jump instantly when they open for pre-order. I'm seeing the same happen for HD DVD as well. Consumers are enjoying the HD they're getting and coming back for more.

Like popcorn in a popper the good stuff is beginning to pop with more frequency. Some day we'll be lost in the cacaphony of new movie releases.
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Old 01-19-07, 01:51 AM   #8   |  Link
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Old 01-19-07, 02:26 AM   #9   |  Link
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WTF, they're holding Wii's until Jan 21st... and Saw 3 is coming out the same day.
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Old 01-19-07, 06:17 AM   #10   |  Link
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This blurb is only parrotting the BDA's CES tub-thumping. It does say "CES News", after all.
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Old 01-19-07, 06:43 AM   #11   |  Link
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No problem at all. Most of HD DVD owners bought the last recent films when they were coming out.

Same situation as with the sales ranks on amazon. Batman Begins i.e. were out a long time before. And most of us bought it then.

So, no news to me. Says nothing abouts sales.
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Old 01-19-07, 07:09 AM   #12   |  Link
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Let's take these articles in stride. No need to gloat.
Spot on!

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There are so many solid titles now popping up for Blu-ray the numbers jump instantly when they open for pre-order.
Can you pre-order at BB's?

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I'm seeing the same happen for HD DVD as well.
Sadly, Best Buy aren't
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Old 01-19-07, 08:21 AM   #13   |  Link
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since i own both i can put my two cents in....

its great to see that blu ray is doing good but you need to read that list closely.....
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Old 01-19-07, 08:39 AM   #14   |  Link
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But I thought ps3 owners don't care about movies?
Considering the PS3 has 1.5 million installs around the world, I would hardly consider their current performance anything to write home about.
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Old 01-19-07, 08:45 AM   #15   |  Link
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So maybe it's not BB employee's showing their fan boy side for blu-ray. They just getting mis-information in their internal literature and they're just repeating it to customers. That explains why they get so upset when they're being corrected. They're thinking "But I got a leaflet, what do you know?".
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Old 01-19-07, 08:45 AM   #16   |  Link
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Is this a well known or trusted publication? just curious.
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Old 01-19-07, 08:49 AM   #17   |  Link
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Is this a well known or trusted publication? just curious.
Its the internal Best Buy circular to let their employees know what is happening with the company.
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Old 01-19-07, 08:53 AM   #18   |  Link
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This blurb is only parrotting the BDA's CES tub-thumping. It does say "CES News", after all.
Good catch it does actually read as a recap of CES talking points.
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Old 01-19-07, 08:56 AM   #19   |  Link
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CES probably got what they heard from the Blu Ray camp..... those arrogant guys said alot but arent showing alot...
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Good catch it does actually read as a recap of CES talking points.
It is, the sales are specific to Best Buy though

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They just getting mis-information in their internal literature
Mis-information? I'm sure that BB has no motive to lie and they would know what their own sales are!
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Old 01-19-07, 09:02 AM   #21   |  Link
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I'll stop by my local BB, where I know the managers pretty well and get a clatification on whether this is actual BB sales or whether it is as reported by the BDA during CES. This looks to me like a re cap of CES and NOT BB internal sales numbers.

Also, I'd be interested in knowing how much BD is outpacing HD DVD by.

FWIW, even if BD sales are ahead for the past few weeks, many BB employees have been pushing BD over HD DVD for months! I too believe that BD sales should be ahead of HD DVD sales...

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Old 01-19-07, 09:19 AM   #22   |  Link
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If Blu-ray wasn't out-pacing HD DVD right now something would be terribly wrong. Strong sales for a relatively short period is not an indicator of anything. The software available for Blu-ray leading up to Christmas was pretty lackluster and the hardware available was quite expensive. We now have the performance-driven sales of the PS3 and a regular flow of good Blu-ray titles. HD DVD hasn't had a good week of releases since before Christmas and the numbers are just indicating that reality. Last time I checked I have well over a dozen or so Blu-ray titles on pre-order and two HD DVD titles. Expect numbers to continue in Blu-ray's favor for the time being. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out why.
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Old 01-19-07, 09:21 AM   #23   |  Link
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I'll stop by my local BB, where I know the managers pretty well and get a clatification on whether this is actual BB sales or whether it is as reported by the BDA during CES. This looks to me like a re cap of CES and NOT BB internal sales numbers.
The sales info they report wasn't revealed at CES. There were some sales data from Fox but they didn't say what BB wrote. Also if HD DVD was outselling BD, they wouldn't report the opposite, they might say "Fox claimed" or "Fox revealed" they were clearly talking about BB stores only (and BB might not be representative of the general market)

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Right! When the new HD DVD releases arrive the numbers will change for sure. It's easy to win a one horse race
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Old 01-19-07, 09:31 AM   #24   |  Link
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I'll stop by my local BB, where I know the managers pretty well and get a clatification on whether this is actual BB sales or whether it is as reported by the BDA during CES. This looks to me like a re cap of CES and NOT BB internal sales numbers.

Also, I'd be interested in knowing how much BD is outpacing HD DVD by.
Plaz, as I have mentioned earlier this week, after talking to my local Bestbuy GM, the ratio he is seeing in his stores is that Blu-ray is outselling HD-DVD by a 3 to 1 margin as far as software goes. He also mentioned that Blu-ray's sales have been improving around 15% week over week.

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Old 01-19-07, 10:50 AM   #25   |  Link
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Plaz, as I have mentioned earlier this week, after talking to my local Bestbuy GM, the ratio he is seeing in his stores is that Blu-ray is outselling HD-DVD by a 3 to 1 margin as far as software goes. He also mentioned that Blu-ray's sales have been improving around 15% week over week.

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Plaz, as I have mentioned earlier this week, after talking to my local Bestbuy GM, the ratio he is seeing in his stores is that Blu-ray is outselling HD-DVD by a 3 to 1 margin as far as software goes. He also mentioned that Blu-ray's sales have been improving around 15% week over week.

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I am replying to this to not discredit you, but show how things seem to differ from city to city. I wonder why?

Vancouver BC:

Best Buy: HD DVD players and movies both way outselling blue ray according to various store employees. Its sort of funny (and anoying since I buy BD and HD DVD), but they Blue Ray tittles are on a shelf which has a pillar RIGHT IN FRONT. You litterally have to look at the movies at a near 90 degree angle.

London Drugs (dont laugh they are big here): Almost never sell BD, but HD DVD selling pretty good.

Charlies (place you can buy and sell used media including BD and HD DVD): Owner says much more activity with HD DVD.

HMV (largest loaction in the world): "We never sell the blue ones"

Future Shop: "ever since the xbox Add on came out HD DVD is clearly outselling BD"

I go to all the reatailers in my city who sell BD and HD DVD on a near weekly basis and always ask. Always.

*** by the way on a side note I really wish OPs would have more accurate tittles to posts i.e. "Blue Ray sales out pace HDDVD 4 weeks straight." Is much different then "According to BB inside flyer HDDVD sales out pace HDDVD 4 weeks straight". This happens on both sides and gets me to read threads which basically have no or very little relavent info to the tittle.

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Old 01-19-07, 12:22 PM   #27   |  Link
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The BB sales info on BD seems to be on par with info from DVD Empire. Info from 01/19/2007 @ 1110 hours CST.

Blu-Ray
Week: 58.06%
Month: 57.42%

HD-DVD
Week:41.94%
Month: 42.58%

The activity on ebay for Blu-ray and HD DVD were about equal for disc in November (less than 75 listings in each format), as of 01/19/2007 @ 1115 hours CST it is HD-DVD (24) and Blu-ray (1350) disc. As you see the trading in Blu-ray has increased many times over.

Unlike many claims here, the above info is verifiable.
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Old 01-19-07, 12:25 PM   #28   |  Link
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Now thats a stat I just love to hear!
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Old 01-19-07, 01:22 PM   #29   |  Link
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For those of you who think this thread means anything, ponder this! If the BDA sudddenly decided to withhold all titles for about six weeks and the HD side suddely released a whole s-h-tload of new titles, what do you think would happen? When you have (honestly)figured out the answer to this equation then you will come to the inevitable realization that this thread is absolutely meaningless. It seems to me there is an attitude of "win at all cost" going on here. Sure we would like or chosen formats to "win" but citing the fact that BD has been outselling HD during a time when there is practically no (new) HD available is, for lack of a better word, desperate. To be totally honest, and judging by the sudden lack of support from the HD group, I wouldn't be surprised if HD never recovered when (and if) they decide to release new titles. However, until such time (when HD gets of it *ss and releases some new titles), we cannot be certain as to which format will sell more. For these reasons, this thread is pointless!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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What are you talking about? There were actually more HD-DVD releases than BD ones over the last month. It's from here on out where there are no more HD-DVD releases, to make things even worse.
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