With tonight's showing of the Oliver Stones dramatization of the events of September 11th 2001 with thousands of soils still trapped within the two towers one after another each of them came thundering down to a heap of twisted steel and concrete.
You can hear the building buckling under tons of pressure until it rains thunderously overhead down the sides, McLonghlin gives the order two his men to run towards the elevator shaft fast!
Distant sounds of screaming of employees running around, it's a disturbing and distorting sound to hear! Hard to imagine but (Soundelux) have created one memorable sound mix, right down to the rushing air of implosion!
Overhead surround is an easy thing to set-up as well as adding dimension to the surround field, of looking to the sides and above you, creates enormous suspense. So just as me what home cinema sound system you have and I'll give a few guidelines to getting it set-up.
Before retiring from ATT Labs "JJ" was working on a similar project. Very few people heard it and none said much. Seems it was at least 11 channels & speakers in a very dead room.
Don't know if this link still works.
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But he is James D. (JJ) Johnston, now with Microsoft.
After listening very closely and looking at the reactions of Nicolas Cage's character the eyes looking upwards towards the ceiling and realizing all I need to do here is simply re-plugging of the four-channel surround array.
So I re-plugged the outputs for (surround matrix) and assigned it to the x4 JBL control 1.
The 2x JBL control 1 that are placed above I re-plugged the outputs using the centre back mode and assigned them for (height surrounds) and it really worked knocked my socks off it did. I was looking above to the sides the fronts the heights it was a confusing sequence and worked very effectively.
Most you with Dolby-EX would have to add matching surrounds the same as used for sidewalls centre back for timber matching reasons.
Also you will have no sound from the centre back that, so this is why I used a Dolby Pro-Logic decoder (separate) for the past 9 years now. It's just got one additional output which still adds mood and tension.
So looks like some of you will have a lot of re-plugging to do here, get separate Dolby Pro-Logic decoder from a second-hand shop of if you still happen to have one laying around then, well re-plug those surrounds using the RCA phone and send the inputs to the Dolby Pro-Logic decoder.
Use the internal amplifications centre back output for dts-ES and assign that to a new array of surrounds placed at the back, and turn of the Dolby Pro-Logic decoder when playing dts-ES.
I know sounds really confusing, but ain't it great.
Wow, way to show your colors man. I say if the guy wants to experiment with his audio gear then let him. It shouldn't matter the condition of the room he's using to do so, not all of us have big houses and well paying jobs. You never know, that may just be an unfinished room or something.
I see no need to slam the guy like that. *retracted* Have a good one.
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Wow, way to show your colors man. I say if the guy wants to experiment with his audio gear then let him. It shouldn't matter the condition of the room he's using to do so, not all of us have big houses and well paying jobs. You never know, that may just be an unfinished room or something.
I see no need to slam the guy like that. You sir, get my @$$hole of the day award (usually reserved for office co-workers). Have a good one.
You should do some re search on the guy & than you would understand my comment. He has been on a couple other forums with his babbling & horrid pictures. I have no problems with someone experimenting & enjoying what they have, but this guy is a freaking nut case.
And I don't have a big house or some really good paying job. In fact it has taken me about six years to get my set up to where it is now.
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Wow, way to show your colors man. I say if the guy wants to experiment with his audio gear then let him. It shouldn't matter the condition of the room he's using to do so, not all of us have big houses and well paying jobs. You never know, that may just be an unfinished room or something.
I see no need to slam the guy like that. You sir, get my @$$hole of the day award (usually reserved for office co-workers). Have a good one.
So its OK for you to call a poster a @$$hole but its not OK for him to render an opinion about come kid's abortion of a room? Sure the kid can do what he wants, and if he wants to hang dozens of tiny speakers from hooks, more power to him but when he posts pics then he is asking for comments. My comment concurs with the guy you swore at. That room is an abortion.
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So its OK for you to call a poster a @$$hole but its not OK for him to render an opinion about come kid's abortion of a room? Sure the kid can do what he wants, and if he wants to hang dozens of tiny speakers from hooks, more power to him but when he posts pics then he is asking for comments. My comment concurs with the guy you swore at. That room is an abortion.
You would be correct. I had no right to do so. maybe a little more research into the poster as mentioned above would've been wise before i posted that response. My apologies Sonytheater.
There's really no way that setp can sound really good. Consider giving up on multiple tiny speakers and getting used movie-theater JBL speakers. Start with a single pair and work your way up. That way your nickname will make sense!
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You would be correct. I had no right to do so. maybe a little more research into the poster as mentioned above would've been wise before i posted that response. My apologies Sonytheater.
No need to apologize, I have thick skin. I try to keep my mouth most of the time but I have seen this guy post a couple places & most of the time he just seems as if he is trolling. I wish I could remember the first forum I seen him on it was unbelievable. He ended up getting a couple of his threads locked up because all his ignorant babbling. Some of the things he comes up with is just amazing & beyond anything I have ever seen or heard anyone in their right mind do.
At the very least if your going to have such a mess of stuff try to organize it so it looks half way decent.
You'd have to research the The Empire Leicester Square cinema. That is his inspiration and what he is trying to recreate, but he is missing the point. There is a HUGE difference between a cinema that seats over 800 people and his small room.
Research proved that in most cases in the home, single speakers per channel for the surrounds worked better than arrays. If he wants it to sound more like a cinema, then he needs to visit the THX web site, get some fresh ideas and employ dipoles for his surrounds.
I understand why some want to make fun of this room. But I remember when I was a kid in the late 1970s and was just starting my obsessive hobby of stereo equipment and Home Theater. I wish I had pictures of my 19" black and white TV that I had when I was 13. I pulled out the speaker wires and hooked it up to my JC Penney HTIB (this was before that acronym was coined). My next step was to take apart my parents console stereo that had 12" woofers and make new boxes. I thought the added bass kicked ass. Now that was ghetto. LOL, we have all been there before.
This room rocks - yea it could use some paint. You could even color coordinate your wall treatments. When I was 15, I would have loved to have 100 surround speakers - but they hadn't been invented yet - at least not for consumers. Look at the way he incorporates the surrounds into the door. That is ingenuity. Keep it up JBL and blow the socks off your mum, dad and neighbors!!!
It would appear so. Interesting that he hasn't responded. He posted those pics for a reason. Reason being that he wanted to get a response and he has. He has to know what his room looks like and he has to realize that its not the norm. He has the right to do what he wants. He has the right to decorate like he wants. He may be a good natured guy and the salt of the earth, but none of that stops the fact that he is also a nutcase! And I mean that in a good way.
The interesting point is that the "height" channel has been discussed many times using matrix decoders to extract the information called a "difference" from the surrounds.
The point remains that no cinema (or dubbing stage) has "height" channel speakers, so any "difference" encoded into the surrounds is really coincidence. It is meant to be heard from the LS/RS speakers as diffuse sound and it may appear to come from above...
If I was going to "change" (he might call it enhance) the way the soundtrack was decoded, I would opt for dual matrix decoders to recreate a system similar to the TMH 10.2 system. By processing the FL/LS and the FR/RS, the system could add 4 (2 sets of stereo) channels to the existing 7.1 system we already have...
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