First sighting of Chinese HD DVD player (Venturer brand HD DVD player picture)

Kosty · 03-19-07, 04:41 AM

The Chinese manufacturer of the brands Alco (Venturer) announced at CES that it would be supporting HD DVD , presumably with the Microsoft/Broadcom SoC solution.

A picture of the first mythical Chinese player is on this HD DVD PRG report page from CeBit.

http://www.hddvdprg.com/eng/event/31cebit.html

http://www.twice.com/article/CA6405555.html?nid=2402

anybody know anything else?

balanceofpower · 03-19-07, 05:47 AM

While I won't be buying one of these (Chinese players), it's certainly great news for HD DVD. $199 is when many J6Ps I know caved in for dvd and hopefully it'll be a similar story for HD. I don't think Onkyo or Meridian will make much of an impact at all selling $999 to $1999 players.

Grubert · 03-19-07, 06:26 AM

http://www.venturer.com/request.aspx

I've sent them an email asking for more information. Maybe one of our Canadian friends could phone them too to find out what the fuss is all aboot, eh?

Kosty · 03-19-07, 12:01 PM

I did not know the Venturer brand was Canadian based with a Chinese manufacturing partner (Alco).

Nothing lilke Canadians making money in the global marketplace.

Ya gotta love NAFTA.

Quote:

Venturer Electronics, headquartered in Markham, Ontario, offers a wide selection of value-priced, high quality consumer electronics products. Since 1988, Venturer has focused on making the latest technologies affordable to North American consumers.

Our highly-automated manufacturing partner in China builds some of the world's best known consumer electronics brands. Our design, engineering, and manufacturing expertise has earned the respect of our customers and OEM partners. We offer Venturer branded products as an opportunity for consumers to purchase great electronics products without having to pay the marketing costs associated with well-advertised brands.

Portable DVD Players, LCD TVs, Digital Audio Players, Home Theater Systems - These are just some of the types of Venturer branded products being promoted by the world's leading retailers. At Venturer, we're committed to meeting or exceeding our customers' expectations and growing our presence in the marketplace. We believe that consumers are smarter than ever and can recognize the great value offered by Venturer Electronics

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Kosty · 03-19-07, 12:05 PM

So like Toshiba is a Japanese company with players manufactured in mainland China, Venturer is a Canadian company company with players manufactured in China. If Toshiba and Sony are Japanese, then Venturer is just as much Canadian.

So maybe low cost Canadian HD DVD players will be coming to HD DVD's rescue?

Jon Spackman · 03-19-07, 12:51 PM

Nice find Kosty

hd nOOb · 03-19-07, 01:52 PM

Come on Wallmart don't count HD DVD out as of yet.

Django · 03-19-07, 02:33 PM

I tried to blow up the photo...this is the best I could come up with.

Grubert · 03-19-07, 03:05 PM

Somebody call the CTU.

JohnnyG · 03-19-07, 04:16 PM

Hey, I'm 10 minutes from Markham...maybe Venturer is hiring

metalsaber · 03-19-07, 04:19 PM

Very cool stuff.

Django · 03-19-07, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyG

Hey, I'm 10 minutes from Markham...maybe Venturer is hiring

Kosty · 03-19-07, 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Django

I tried to blow up the photo...this is the best I could come up with.

Kinda looks like a HD A2 with a silver eyepatch

Kosty · 03-20-07, 02:26 AM

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=822006

better picture in this thread

hd nOOb · 03-20-07, 03:20 AM

Here ya go

Dave Mack · 03-20-07, 03:22 AM

ONLY dolby digital...?!?!?!

??

PCMusicGuy · 03-20-07, 09:17 AM

It sure looks like DD only. I certainly don't expect these Chinese players to adhere to the HD DVD spec completely.

underdog57 · 03-20-07, 09:44 AM

The hd-dvd discs do not have DD encoded correct?? So Pro logic is what it will put out??
Hope I'm wrong ???

Should we pass the hat around for donations for Blu-rays Funeral???

yampan · 03-20-07, 10:15 AM

No hint at pricing for this baby yet? Or when it will hit our shores? Sure we are assuming it will be low priced because of its origin, but did they throw out any numbers?

b.greenway · 03-20-07, 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by underdog57

The hd-dvd discs do not have DD encoded correct?? So Pro logic is what it will put out??

Highly doubt it, at the very minimum it could convert the DD+ to DD, although until we see final specs no way to be sure exactly what audio is supported.

dsmith901 · 03-20-07, 10:22 AM

Somebody contact Venturer and tell them it nees to be all-black, please!

Grubert · 03-20-07, 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yampan

No hint at pricing for this baby yet? Or when it will hit our shores? Sure we are assuming it will be low priced because of its origin, but did they throw out any numbers?

From German site areadvd:

Quote:

There was no further information on the model, and the launch date is not known.

xboxboi · 03-20-07, 10:27 AM

^ me thinkie DD+ is mandatory for HD DVD no?

underdog57 · 03-20-07, 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xboxboi

^ me thinkie DD+ is mandatory for HD DVD no?

Well if its $200.00 and under I'd bet it would be fine for a lot of people to have DD.
I still need to upgrade my receiver actually

Allthough my display is a Barco 1208/2 Projector 124" Wide screen . Visual means alot ....

hd nOOb · 03-24-07, 05:53 PM

Any info if this is one of the Broadcom and Microsoft players?

joerod · 03-24-07, 06:00 PM

Finally more units!

MohaimenK · 03-25-07, 06:55 PM

Sorry to say but I think Blu-Ray is coming to an end very soon. Especially when more and more of these come out. More companies. People like us will care about DD or TrueHD or what not but J6P will not care. If the PQ is very good then that's all that they'll care about. Seriously, mroe people look atp ictures than to care about sond if you ask me.

DeathKnight · 03-25-07, 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xboxboi

^ me thinkie DD+ is mandatory for HD DVD no?

The HD-DVD spec requires all players to be able to decode the supported audio formats (DD, DD+, Dolby TrueHD, DTS, DTS Master-HD, LPCM). This allows everyone with a HD-DVD player to be able to play every disc regardless of what is included on the disc. Standardization, you know, the thing Blu-Ray lacks

Encoding can be to whatever format. In this case it's apparently only Dolby Digital in order to keep costs down. It's a bit too early to have players with all the bells and whistles at bargain-bin prices.

Favelle · 03-25-07, 09:03 PM

Maybe one of our Canadian friends could phone them too to find out what the fuss is all aboot, eh?

Its a 1-800 #.......so its free for everyone....including Yanks.

REW · 03-26-07, 12:27 PM

The knockout punch for Sony and pals(gang of 9.)Courtesy of Canadians first!

"Stick a fork in them,they are done!"

As we expected.

Timeline to failure of Boozeray(1-2 yrs.)

First Sony denies,blusters and then declares they will support the B-ray forever.Then they quietly let it slip away.
Thats exactly how Betamax ended ,with a mercy killing in Canada and everywhere.Guess who never learns,thats the definition-" of insanity."

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Kosty AVS Addicted Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 11,417	First sighting of Chinese HD DVD player (Venturer brand HD DVD player picture) The Chinese manufacturer of the brands Alco (Venturer) announced at CES that it would be supporting HD DVD , presumably with the Microsoft/Broadcom SoC solution. A picture of the first mythical Chinese player is on this HD DVD PRG report page from CeBit. http://www.hddvdprg.com/eng/event/31cebit.html http://www.twice.com/article/CA6405555.html?nid=2402 anybody know anything else? Last edited by Kosty; 03-19-07 at 04:49 AM..

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Grubert AVS Special Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 7,691	http://www.venturer.com/request.aspx I've sent them an email asking for more information. Maybe one of our Canadian friends could phone them too to find out what the fuss is all aboot, eh? __________________ Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four

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Kosty AVS Addicted Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 11,417	So like Toshiba is a Japanese company with players manufactured in mainland China, Venturer is a Canadian company company with players manufactured in China. If Toshiba and Sony are Japanese, then Venturer is just as much Canadian. So maybe low cost Canadian HD DVD players will be coming to HD DVD's rescue?

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REW onceustackunogoback! Join Date: May 1999 Location: Silicon Valley North(Canada) Posts: 1,294	The knockout punch for Sony and pals(gang of 9.)Courtesy of Canadians first! "Stick a fork in them,they are done!" As we expected. Timeline to failure of Boozeray(1-2 yrs.) First Sony denies,blusters and then declares they will support the B-ray forever.Then they quietly let it slip away. Thats exactly how Betamax ended ,with a mercy killing in Canada and everywhere.Guess who never learns,thats the definition-" of insanity." __________________ Ron "Your priorities will be different-its the weighting that counts!-only if its done by Chris Stephens!(or equivalent!)"