Fifth Element re-release info!

[benes]

You heard it here first. Heres the info I have so far:

No exact release date yet but look for it around July. Sony had originally planned to make it a holiday release with new content. But they couldn't create the content they wanted so the release date got pushed up.

It will be a BD50 with the following specs:

Video: AVC
Audio: 16bit PCM and TrueHD (either 20bit or 24bit, not confirmed yet)

An exchange program is still planned for current owners.

[InfernoSoul]

Originally Posted by benes

You heard it here first. Heres the info I have so far:

No exact release date yet but look for it around July. Sony had originally planned to make it a holiday release with new content. But they couldn't create the content they wanted so the release date got pushed up.

It will be a BD50 with the following specs:

Video: AVC
Audio: 16bit PCM and TrueHD (either 20bit or 24bit, not confirmed yet)

An exchange program is still planned for current owners.

May I ask how you know this? What are you sources? Do you have any links to the following news that are relieable sources? Sounds awesome if true I love this movie! Thanks!

[InfernoSoul]

Originally Posted by benes

Sorry forgot to mention. Directly from paidgeek.

Sweetness!

[hassoon]

Your info sounds about right (what I would expect from the re-issue), but a source/link/confirmation would be nice .

EDIT:

Sorry forgot to mention. Directly from paidgeek.

Quick on the draw, I see

Great news!

Release date, plz

[obiTOkenobi]

Whats the point of a PCM track as well as a TrueHD one?

[joerod]

Is this an April fools thread?

[swifty7]

I'm so sick an tired of these April Fools jokes!

[T800]

Originally Posted by obiTOkenobi

Whats the point of a PCM track as well as a TrueHD one?

I'd like to see this on all releases, I can play PCM but not TrueHD at present.

[Sky042]

I'm really interested in the exchange program. the version I have doesn't look too bad but I'd love to see it in it's finest.

[MarekM]

Originally Posted by benes

You heard it here first. Heres the info I have so far:

No exact release date yet but look for it around July. Sony had originally planned to make it a holiday release with new content. But they couldn't create the content they wanted so the release date got pushed up.

It will be a BD50 with the following specs:

Video: AVC
Audio: 16bit PCM and TrueHD (either 20bit or 24bit, not confirmed yet)

An exchange program is still planned for current owners.

please let it be 24bit and if DolbyTrueHD than without dialog normalization

can't wait
Marek

[RioRebel]

Out of curiosity, what's the excitement? Do people like the movie that much and want to see it at its finest, or is it an assumption that it will be a fantastic reference disk based on the fact that the DVD was so outstanding?

Is there any reason to assume the latter? Aren't the Blu-ray movies going back to film and re-doing the transfer process anyway, so isn't it irrelevant which movies looked best on dvd?

Just curious, I'd like to understand this. Incidentally, I liked the movie. But I think of it more as a reference dvd that's great for testing, than a classic Sci-fi flick.

[bjonni]

Originally Posted by RioRebel

Out of curiosity, what's the excitement? Do people like the movie that much and want to see it at its finest, or is it an assumption that it will be a fantastic reference disk based on the fact that the DVD was so outstanding?

I think it is more the former than the latter and that everyone that got the first release were disappointed. It just strikes a chord with some people, including me. It is not like any other sci-fi flicks but you've got: Milla, very colorful scenery and wardrobes, the cool opera performance, *bzzzzzt* *bzzzzzt* *bzzzzzzzzzt*, silly stuff like the traffic light borders around human space, some funny scenes like the botched hold-up by the guy in the camouflage hat, an evil Gary Oldman... what is not to like? It is a classic for me.

[Steeb]

Originally Posted by benes

I think the plan is to eventually switch to TrueHD completely and they are testing it out now. The PCM is included so everyone without a PS3 can still enjoy lossless audio. Since none of the players except the PS3 support TrueHD yet.

By the time it's released, the Panny should support DTHD. Sweet...


Thanks for the info.

[Fettastic]

Originally Posted by bjonni

what is not to like?

Jar Jar Binks had NOTHING on this guy.

I like the movie (despite ripping off Heavy Metal's Harry Canyon), but I cannot STAND Ruby Rhod!

[R-Type]

Originally Posted by RioRebel

Out of curiosity, what's the excitement? Do people like the movie that much and want to see it at its finest, or is it an assumption that it will be a fantastic reference disk based on the fact that the DVD was so outstanding?

Is there any reason to assume the latter? Aren't the Blu-ray movies going back to film and re-doing the transfer process anyway, so isn't it irrelevant which movies looked best on dvd?

Just curious, I'd like to understand this. Incidentally, I liked the movie. But I think of it more as a reference dvd that's great for testing, than a classic Sci-fi flick.

This is personally one of my favorite popcorn flicks. It has a great premise and cast and doesn't take itself too seriously. As someone else on the forum said, its Die Hard in Space

[SirDrexl]

Well, I would have liked to see what new extras they were planning, but if they couldn't do that it's okay.

However, they are at least including the extras from the 2-disc DVD, right?

[Fettastic]

Originally Posted by SirDrexl

Well, I would have liked to see what new extras they were planning, but if they couldn't do that it's okay.

However, they are at least including the extras from the 2-disc DVD, right?

That's the big question. You would think so since they are using AVC on a 50GB.

[bjonni]

Originally Posted by Fettastic

Jar Jar Binks had NOTHING on this guy.

Sure he had. Jar Jar had something of a lisp didn't he?

[RioRebel]

I think Rod's sexual ambiguity made him funny, so at least in some small way, he added something.

With Jar-Jar, it was pure, unadulterated stupidity. I hate Jar-Jar.

[Rob Tomlin]

This is fantastic news! Can't wait for this.

TrueHD?! Has Sony released any other titles with TrueHD?

[SirDrexl]

Originally Posted by Rob Tomlin

TrueHD?! Has Sony released any other titles with TrueHD?

I believe Stomp the Yard is slated to get TrueHD and PCM next month.

[SXRDMan]

Really looking forward to this title. This is a fav of mine as well. Sometimes when I can't decide what to put on I reach for the 5E. I hope it is 24 bit as that would rock!

[Josh Z]

Originally Posted by RioRebel

Is there any reason to assume the latter? Aren't the Blu-ray movies going back to film and re-doing the transfer process anyway, so isn't it irrelevant which movies looked best on dvd?

Almost all major studio DVDs have been "Mastered in High Definition" for years. The majority of HD DVD and Blu-ray releases have come from the same HD master as the DVD.

Except for The Fifth Element, which for some reason was taken from a much worse master than the Superbit DVD.

[Steeb]

Originally Posted by RioRebel

I think Rod's sexual amiguity made him funny, so at least in some small way, he added something.

With Jar-Jar, it was pure, unadulterated stupidity. I hate Jar-Jar.

Yeah, that was back when Chris Tucker was still funny (imo.) Jar-Jar was just awful.

No comparison.

The only reason I don't have T5E on BD already is that I knew this release was coming. I'll finally be able to pick this bad boy up. Nice.

[lfletcher]

Originally Posted by Josh Z

Except for The Fifth Element, which for some reason was taken from a much worse master than the Superbit DVD.

The original BD used the same master as the Superbit release, thats according to Sony's Don Eklund.

[zoro]

will sony swap for us

[Icemage]

Originally Posted by Steeb

The only reason I don't have T5E on BD already is that I knew this release was coming. I'll finally be able to pick this bad boy up. Nice.

Ditto. I've been painfully avoiding picking up T5E on BD due to the reports of terrible PQ (and given the screen grabs I've seen floating around the forum, the reports are definitely deserved).

Love it or hate it, T5E is an amazing eye candy movie and holds a soft spot for HT enthusiasts around the world. This is a really great olive branch from Sony.

[Rutgar]

Originally Posted by Fettastic

Jar Jar Binks had NOTHING on this guy.

I like the movie (despite ripping off Heavy Metal's Harry Canyon), but I cannot STAND Ruby Rhod!

Yes. This character is what made 5th Element a 'good' movie, instead of a 'GREAT" one.

[Donnie Eldridge]

Great news!!!

[obispo21]

Originally Posted by benes

I think the plan is to eventually switch to TrueHD completely and they are testing it out now. The PCM is included so everyone without a PS3 can still enjoy lossless audio. Since none of the players except the PS3 support TrueHD yet.

Great news - but the audio part still seems sily to me.

If they want to got this route, it seems to me it should just be a single 20/24-bit PCM track or a single 20/24-bit TrueHD track.

I would imagine a 16-bit PCM + 20/24-bit TrueHD would occupy more space than a single 20/24-bit PCM... and of course offer no advantages. (Course if there is extra room - no harm either.)

(I'm assuming TrueHD has an approximate 40-50% compressoin ratio like FLAC... though maybe sparse audio in the surround channels results in alot better compression.)

BD doesn't require a TrueHD decoder. I'm assuming if BD becomes mainstream, there will always be low-end players w/o the decoeder, just as low-end DVD players still exist that can't decode DTS.