Any picture benefit to Blu-Ray on an EDTV?

[barb1978]

(Posted this thread under my boyfriend's account over at the PS forums but couldn't get any real answers. Thought I'd take it to the experts - you guys!)

I have a 42" plasma EDTV (Enhanced Definition Television). There is DEFINITELY a sound benefit to blu-ray, but am I getting any picture benefit, as my TV can only handle 480p widescreen (although it will accept 720p and 1080i inputs)? I'm guessing I'll still get the benefits of less/no comprehension and won't see the artifacting that plagued standard DVD (any other compression problems I'll avoid?). Am I guessing correctly, or is the only benefit I'm getting with blu-ray the sound (and wow, what a difference playing in 6.1 surround sound!)?

[dung]

you wont see a difference between bluray and dvd under 480p

[barb1978]

Originally Posted by dung

you wont see a difference between bluray and dvd under 480p

So there won't even be any benefits thanks to the lack of compression on blu-ray discs? This EDTV was a huge investment for us and it's only a year old. We couldn't even think of upgrading for at least another 3 years and now I've got this blu-ray player that's apparently useless, outside of the better sound quality. I was sure there would be a difference thanks to the lack of compression.

[mac_plasma_user]

My EDTV definately looks a lot better playing Blu-Ray discs @ 1080i on my PS3 than on my 420p DVD player.
That's probably because my TV accepts 1080i and scales it internally to fit but it still looks much better than normal 420p DVD to me.

[barb1978]

Originally Posted by mac_plasma_user

My EDTV definately looks a lot better playing Blu-Ray discs @ 1080i on my PS3 than on my 420p DVD player.
That's probably because my TV accepts 1080i and scales it internally to fit but it still looks much better than normal 420p DVD to me.

The problem with my PS3 is that it automatically puts the setting at 480p for some reason when watching blu-ray. Games play at 720p.

[mbroadus]

Originally Posted by barb1978

The problem with my PS3 is that it automatically puts the setting at 480p for some reason when watching blu-ray. Games play at 720p.

I'm not sure how it works on EDTV, but at setup, I selected 1080p and my scaler down-scales it to fit my PSPs resolution.

[swifty7]

Originally Posted by barb1978

(Posted this thread under my boyfriend's account over at the PS forums but couldn't get any real answers. Thought I'd take it to the experts - you guys!)

I have a 42" plasma EDTV (Enhanced Definition Television). There is DEFINITELY a sound benefit to blu-ray, but am I getting any picture benefit, as my TV can only handle 480p widescreen (although it will accept 720p and 1080i inputs)? I'm guessing I'll still get the benefits of less/no comprehension and won't see the artifacting that plagued standard DVD (any other compression problems I'll avoid?). Am I guessing correctly, or is the only benefit I'm getting with blu-ray the sound (and wow, what a difference playing in 6.1 surround sound!)?

ED's pixel resolution it's higher than that of dvd 852X480(ED) vs 720X480(dvd)...so the benefit of BD will be there not by much but it will still be there. Colors I assume will vastly improve over DVD.

[UUronl]

This isn't really great advice guys - no offense.


Lots of studies have been done on this kind of question - will more resolution information be better after down-rezzing than the native resolution?


The Dcinema industry wanted to know if a 4K source that was downconverted to 2K and projected on a 2K projector would be better than a 2K source on a 2K projector. The answer was that the 4K source downconverted to 2K was vastly superior.


http://digitalcontentproducer.com/ma...ial/index.html


Look in the section way down the page that is titled, "2K, 4K, Digital Cinema" and you'll see 3 images to compare for yourself.

[mbroadus]

Originally Posted by UUronl

This isn't really great advice guys - no offense.


Lots of studies have been done on this kind of question - will more resolution information be better after down-rezzing than the native resolution?


The Dcinema industry wanted to know if a 4K source that was downconverted to 2K and projected on a 2K projector would be better than a 2K source on a 2K projector. The answer was that the 4K source downconverted to 2K was vastly superior.


http://digitalcontentproducer.com/ma...ial/index.html


Look in the section way down the page that is titled, "2K, 4K, Digital Cinema" and you'll see 3 images to compare for yourself.

I enjoyed the article.

[StinDaWg]

Of course it will look better. Does HD look better than the analog channels on your EDTV? They show movie previews on HDNET and on my plasma at 8 feet they look as good as HD.

[mac_plasma_user]

Originally Posted by StinDaWg

Of course it will look better. Does HD look better than the analog channels on your EDTV? They show movie previews on HDNET and on my plasma at 8 feet they look as good as HD.

That jives with my experience with my PS3 - the Image is "Crisper" with more detail even though it is not true HD.

[xrox]

Originally Posted by barb1978

(Posted this thread under my boyfriend's account over at the PS forums but couldn't get any real answers. Thought I'd take it to the experts - you guys!)

I have a 42" plasma EDTV (Enhanced Definition Television). There is DEFINITELY a sound benefit to blu-ray, but am I getting any picture benefit, as my TV can only handle 480p widescreen (although it will accept 720p and 1080i inputs)? I'm guessing I'll still get the benefits of less/no comprehension and won't see the artifacting that plagued standard DVD (any other compression problems I'll avoid?). Am I guessing correctly, or is the only benefit I'm getting with blu-ray the sound (and wow, what a difference playing in 6.1 surround sound!)?

Source quality is "THE" #1 driver in determining picture quality you see on your TV.

A very very distant second is the number of pixels on your TV (of course were talking a specific range here, ie 10 pixels won't cut it...)

To be more direct I would say that Blu-Ray will have an advantage over DVD on every existing display in the world today including my crappy analog 480i CRT.

Cheers

[adb]

Yes, it should be better.

[jspirate]

Originally Posted by dung

you wont see a difference between bluray and dvd under 480p

This is not correct. I suspect dung does not own an EDTV. If he did, he would know that you can get a noticeable picture quality improvement when going from 480p to 1080i (or 1080p). There is more to it than numbers...