PS3 BTB AND WTW now fixed!!

IhateBestBuy · 05-24-07, 12:42 AM

change rgb to full and you will notice a huge difference!! good job sony!!

richlo · 05-24-07, 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by IhateBestBuy

change rgb to full and you will notice a huge difference!! good job sony!!

I notice that myself from limited to FULL..its looking really good right now..

BTBuck1 · 05-24-07, 12:57 AM

Dude, thank you so much! I got my blacks back without crushing all the detail out! woot!

IhateBestBuy · 05-24-07, 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by BTBuck1

Dude, thank you so much! I got my blacks back without crushing all the detail out! woot!

No problem man, I know a lot of people were looking for this fix in a update.

Monty22001 · 05-24-07, 01:02 AM

Where is this setting exactly? NM, under display settings. I was looking at BD ones.

theflux · 05-24-07, 01:03 AM

What an awesome update.

UMD_Terp · 05-24-07, 01:12 AM

The setting works great for DVD/Blu-ray... but... the XMB and games get all screwed up for me. They seem to come out darker. Movies are fine though as verified by DVE

Monty22001 · 05-24-07, 01:14 AM

Does this only affect it if you have it set for RGB out, and not the y cr.. setting?

UMD_Terp · 05-24-07, 01:16 AM

XMB and games are always RGB.... you can only set YCrCb for blu-ray playback

Monty22001 · 05-24-07, 01:17 AM

I meant for blu-ray actually. Is it better to keep it on YC or switch to RGB, if RGB is only affected?

MSmith83 · 05-24-07, 01:22 AM

My games and menu finally look correct now. However, exiting a BD movie always seems to disable full-range RGB even though the console still says "full."

UMD_Terp · 05-24-07, 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by MSmith83

My games and menu finally look correct now. However, exiting a BD movie always seems to disable full-range RGB even though the console still says "full."

I noticed this as well... it seems to flip flop with the setting... same thing after a power cycle.

stevesns69 · 05-24-07, 01:23 AM

Anybody know what kind of TV has super white compatibility? This new setting has me curious.

jim.bennett · 05-24-07, 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by UMD_Terp

I noticed this as well... it seems to flip flop with the setting... same thing after a power cycle.

So its not holding the setting, you have to reset it every time you play a movie?

Jeffroy · 05-24-07, 01:29 AM

Pardon the super n00b question, but what are BTB and WTW?

I assume blacker than black and whiter than white?

Monty22001 · 05-24-07, 01:31 AM

Correct Jeffroy. The question I have are what are the best settings, but I suppose it might take a little while for people to confirm them.

Jeffroy · 05-24-07, 01:34 AM

Can someone explain a little bit more about what this fix means? Do you have to have a certain type of set to take advantage of this improvement?

plasmabuyer · 05-24-07, 01:47 AM

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Originally Posted by stevesns69

Anybody know what kind of TV has super white compatibility? This new setting has me curious.

I saw an immediate improvement in the text of the XMB after selecting this option on my 70SXRD XBR2 TV!!! WOOT WOOT!!!

Now I have blacks I can't see and whites that blind me....

great job Sony!!!!! I'm going to buy your stock tomorrow

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Time to dust off the Oakleys.....

joevfx · 05-24-07, 01:50 AM

i was curiose abotu this RGB setting, what do i want to set it to and why? what does it do exactly?

JaDed06 · 05-24-07, 01:53 AM

I just posted this elsewhere but here seems more appropriate:

RGB Full-mode only remains on for my downloadable PSN content. It turns off immediately when booting up a ps2 game, dvd or blu-ray. It also turns off when powering off

Iggster · 05-24-07, 01:53 AM

bd playback same thing even when set to full

upscaling does look better but hd-a2 does a better job still

SVS! -man · 05-24-07, 01:58 AM

GREAT NEWS.

Is the improvement from BTB/ WTW also visible on BD-playback or just SD DVD?

jim.bennett · 05-24-07, 02:00 AM

Are these reports of BTB and WTW fixed premature then?? It doesnt help with movies?

mva5580 · 05-24-07, 02:09 AM

Changing RGB to full certainly DOES help, but the problem is that it resets back to the original setting every time you stop watching a movie. Even though in settings, it still says it's on "full." So you have to change it back to limited, and then back to full again for it to turn back on. HOPEFULLY a quick fix is released for that.

Robert George · 05-24-07, 02:29 AM

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Changing RGB to full certainly DOES help, but the problem is that it resets back to the original setting every time you stop watching a movie. Even though in settings, it still says it's on "full."

Mine isn't doing that. The setting is staying on "full", and I continue to see below black so I know the setting is on.

joevfx · 05-24-07, 02:51 AM

does anyone know if putting the RGB to full and the super whites on, will make the colors less accurate? is this just basically like putting your TV on dynamic mode?

joe_six_pack · 05-24-07, 02:57 AM

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Originally Posted by mva5580

Changing RGB to full certainly DOES help, but the problem is that it resets back to the original setting every time you stop watching a movie. Even though in settings, it still says it's on "full." So you have to change it back to limited, and then back to full again for it to turn back on. HOPEFULLY a quick fix is released for that.

It could be that your tv doesn't support it somehow?

I just turned my ps3 off and on. Mine keeps the superwhite & full setting.

bommai · 05-24-07, 03:11 AM

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Originally Posted by joe_six_pack

It could be that your tv doesn't support it somehow?

I just turned my ps3 off and on. Mine keeps the superwhite & full setting.

Same here. JVC HD-P61R1U. Stays on.

IhateBestBuy · 05-24-07, 03:14 AM

Mine stays as well. Olevia 532h

dogdoctor · 05-24-07, 03:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Robert George

Mine isn't doing that. The setting is staying on "full", and I continue to see below black so I know the setting is on.

Mine is doing what others are saying too about reverting settings in function just not namesake. It reads that it stays at full but the blacks are back to the limited setting. Try it...switch back to limited. Oddly it wont ask you for a confirmation to switch back to limited. But then go back to full...you should see the blacks deepen again and of course get the confirmation of the switch being made.

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UMD_Terp AVS Special Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: MD Posts: 1,950	The setting works great for DVD/Blu-ray... but... the XMB and games get all screwed up for me. They seem to come out darker. Movies are fine though as verified by DVE __________________ PS3 ID : angry_desi Join the AVSFORUM folding@home team... #55280 Link To Thread

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Monty22001 AVS Special Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 1,055	Does this only affect it if you have it set for RGB out, and not the y cr.. setting?

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Monty22001 AVS Special Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 1,055	I meant for blu-ray actually. Is it better to keep it on YC or switch to RGB, if RGB is only affected?

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MSmith83 AVS Special Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 6,317	My games and menu finally look correct now. However, exiting a BD movie always seems to disable full-range RGB even though the console still says "full."

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stevesns69 Will work for HD Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 954 Classified Rating: 100% (2)	Anybody know what kind of TV has super white compatibility? This new setting has me curious.

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Jeffroy Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Calgary, AB, Canada Posts: 346	Pardon the super n00b question, but what are BTB and WTW? I assume blacker than black and whiter than white? __________________ Dual Supporter as of January 4, 2007! Feels so nice...

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Monty22001 AVS Special Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 1,055	Correct Jeffroy. The question I have are what are the best settings, but I suppose it might take a little while for people to confirm them.

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joevfx AVS Special Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 1,056	i was curiose abotu this RGB setting, what do i want to set it to and why? what does it do exactly?

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JaDed06 Member Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 16	I just posted this elsewhere but here seems more appropriate: RGB Full-mode only remains on for my downloadable PSN content. It turns off immediately when booting up a ps2 game, dvd or blu-ray. It also turns off when powering off

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Iggster Mister DIY Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: signal hill, cali Posts: 1,673	bd playback same thing even when set to full upscaling does look better but hd-a2 does a better job still __________________ HD DVD USERS PQ&AQ REFERENCE LIST

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SVS! -man Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Norway Posts: 42	GREAT NEWS. Is the improvement from BTB/ WTW also visible on BD-playback or just SD DVD?

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mva5580 Advanced Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 667	Changing RGB to full certainly DOES help, but the problem is that it resets back to the original setting every time you stop watching a movie. Even though in settings, it still says it's on "full." So you have to change it back to limited, and then back to full again for it to turn back on. HOPEFULLY a quick fix is released for that.

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joevfx AVS Special Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 1,056	does anyone know if putting the RGB to full and the super whites on, will make the colors less accurate? is this just basically like putting your TV on dynamic mode?

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IhateBestBuy Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 248	Mine stays as well. Olevia 532h