Uncommon Bach Review

Allen · 06-29-07, 01:09 AM

Got this today from Amazon.

I am not going to address the efficacy of the mix, purists will hate it, others will love it. It is not really a ping pong as someone else described it in another thread, more like placing you in the center of the mix, but sometimes they use different "voices" in different points of the circle, so it is not a static setup.

Housekeeping wise I think they did the right thing. When you put in the disk, it starts playing right away, and if left unattended will just play all the way through over and over. You have chapter advance, pause and stop all active on the remote, as well as fast forward and reverse. There is a video track of still pictures of flowers which change periodically, but this one isn't really one to watch. Not even a track title or track list to be had, not even a menu. Leave the projector off, and just turn on the player and receiver, and you have music, similar to a CD.

As my player will not decode the DTS HD soundtrack (who's will?) I get the DTS 5.1 core, and it is actually pretty good. No way to compare with DTS HD, so I wont try.

Remember, it is Bach, so don't expect Beethoven.

There is a lot of classic stuff out on synthesizer, and this effort is probably among the better examples of the format that I have heard.

All in all, I like it a lot. YMMV.

Allen

Nedtsc · 07-01-07, 05:32 PM

anyone else got this?

patmiller · 07-01-07, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Nedtsc

anyone else got this?

I got it of course,
If Any questions about music content and mix I can answer.

Kal Rubinson · 07-02-07, 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by patmiller

I got it of course,
If Any questions about music content and mix I can answer.

Yes. Tell us what you hear, please.

patmiller · 07-02-07, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Kal Rubinson

Yes. Tell us what you hear, please.

Actually I am a 100% behind the first review, It is not really a ping pong as I thought it in another thread,
it is like placing you in the center of the mix ,
it is not a static setup
but it is not sometimes about the voices being played from different points of the circle, this mix is geniously build based on that approach. I am certain that it very detail serious work was done transcripting this originals for this kind of presentation. Vary natural and exiting new experience like Bach music was written to be produced that way.

I just get started so ask me more.

Nedtsc · 07-02-07, 07:44 PM

Is this "synthesized"?

patmiller · 07-02-07, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Nedtsc

Is this "synthesized"?

Yes and No.
however this album is obviously done using virtual instruments it is not sound like traditional synthesizer music at all. I would say that Hight Definition sampled sound from Real Classical instruments was used. Some of the voices was produced by real synthesis but it fits perfectly creating real harmony with classical instruments. Allot of voices presented with flutes, corns, synthesized sounds of strings and harps, different organs. Sound is very natural and I would say even conservative for my expectations.

patmiller · 07-25-07, 01:14 PM

I could say now that we have successful presentation of New Surround Music Format on HD DVD. Most people are like it allot and it should be a good example for other studios to relies these kind of titles in HD Format.

ABCD · 12-02-07, 03:13 PM

I am very interested in "audio" HD-DVDs like these. While I have a receiver that will handle PCM via HDMI, I don't have a setup that will handle the lossless portion of DTS HD-MA. It seems they should also include a TrueHD track, and increase their potential audience by a few hundred thousand percent.

Does anyone know of HD-DVD discs like these that are TrueHD or PCM?

bunger3_16 · 12-04-07, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ABCD

I am very interested in "audio" HD-DVDs like these. While I have a receiver that will handle PCM via HDMI, I don't have a setup that will handle the lossless portion of DTS HD-MA. It seems they should also include a TrueHD track, and increase their potential audience by a few hundred thousand percent.

Does anyone know of HD-DVD discs like these that are TrueHD or PCM?

or....is there anybody out there with an A35 or XA2 who has this hooked up to a receiver capable of decoding the DTS-MA bitstream? I'd love to hear what the sound quality is like compared to the core DTS stream.

MidnightWatcher · 12-04-07, 09:49 PM

Allen, could you also post a quick review at this link?

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Allen Senior Member AVS CLUB MEMBER Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: SF Bay Area Posts: 348	Uncommon Bach Review Got this today from Amazon. I am not going to address the efficacy of the mix, purists will hate it, others will love it. It is not really a ping pong as someone else described it in another thread, more like placing you in the center of the mix, but sometimes they use different "voices" in different points of the circle, so it is not a static setup. Housekeeping wise I think they did the right thing. When you put in the disk, it starts playing right away, and if left unattended will just play all the way through over and over. You have chapter advance, pause and stop all active on the remote, as well as fast forward and reverse. There is a video track of still pictures of flowers which change periodically, but this one isn't really one to watch. Not even a track title or track list to be had, not even a menu. Leave the projector off, and just turn on the player and receiver, and you have music, similar to a CD. As my player will not decode the DTS HD soundtrack (who's will?) I get the DTS 5.1 core, and it is actually pretty good. No way to compare with DTS HD, so I wont try. Remember, it is Bach, so don't expect Beethoven. There is a lot of classic stuff out on synthesizer, and this effort is probably among the better examples of the format that I have heard. All in all, I like it a lot. YMMV. Allen Last edited by Allen; 06-29-07 at 12:51 PM..

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Nedtsc Advanced Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 800 Classified Rating: 100% (1)	anyone else got this?

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patmiller Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 154	I could say now that we have successful presentation of New Surround Music Format on HD DVD. Most people are like it allot and it should be a good example for other studios to relies these kind of titles in HD Format.

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ABCD Advanced Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 670	I am very interested in "audio" HD-DVDs like these. While I have a receiver that will handle PCM via HDMI, I don't have a setup that will handle the lossless portion of DTS HD-MA. It seems they should also include a TrueHD track, and increase their potential audience by a few hundred thousand percent. Does anyone know of HD-DVD discs like these that are TrueHD or PCM?