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So I'm ready to buy an Oppo, but I can't decide on the 980 or the 981. The 980 has features that are nice (component output) and it's only 170 bucks. But Oppo suggests the 981 for a television my size (Samsung PN50A450..50 inch).
The cost doesn't mean all that much to me but if I can spend less..why not. I really just want the best picture quality. Can I get away with the 980 on my TV? Thanks in advance. Last edited by High DeF JeFF; 05-18-08 at 06:28 PM.. |
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Actually this is what really sold me on the 980 over the 981:
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I am going to answer my own question here I am sure: It looks as though the 980H is the only Oppo that delivers DSD over HDMI. Is that correct? I am really looking for this feature for my SACDs. I have a Sony SXRD 60"...1080i input. Will I notice a big difference in PQ from the 980H as compared to the 983H? Thanks in advance.
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Thanks for your input. I think I will be picking this player up for its DSD over HDMI capabilities. It will be replacing a Panny S97 for standard DVD playback.
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The DSD over HDMI capability is in the 980. I really could not hear the difference vs. having the 970 decode the SACD and sending it out as PCM signals. I ended up sending back my 980 (had compatiblity issues compared with the 970).
Hoping that the new blu ray machines will output DSD, offer 480i over hdmi, and send all audio from blue ray over hdmi. Then I would buy a new unit. |
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As I said it in a previous post I can't see any noticeable difference between my Oppo 980 and my toshiba EP35 (euro hd-dvd player); the last one is suppose to be an excellent DVD upscaler. I'm watching DVDs on a 2.34 meter base screen thourgh a JVC HD100. I know the projector (the jvc) is "perfectly" treating the picture, but even on screen that size (and with the proper settings for the Oppo), I can't really say the Toshiba is better than the Oppo. Maybe colors are just a little more contrasted on the Toshiba (but that's a maybe). But what the Oppo is offering is a ZERO latency on the layer switch, what the Toshiba is suffering from (the latency on the later is very small but still noticeable).
All this to say that DVDTimesOppo DV-980H review is not a real surprise for me. As for the sound the Oppo gives for DVD-Audio and SACD (DSD output) I can say that it is really excellent (all done at 1080p via HDMI). Only small glitch is the pop sound when you switch a SACD, so to prevent that you have to put your receiver on mute before doing the switch. |
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Received it late yesterday.
![]() It came packed very nicely and was easy to hook up to get started. The player is actually slimmer and has less depth than the Toshiba HD-A35. The initial boot time was about the same as the Denon, like 10 seconds or so. The set-up menu was mostly configured correctly. I just changed TV Display to 16:9 Wide/Auto and Color Space to YCbCr 4:4:4. I did notice some lag between commands if I got too anxious with button pressing. Also annoying was having to stop the disc everytime I wanted to enter Set-up or change the resolution, these two options are available during playback with the Denon. It produces a picture (@ 720p) that immediately looks superior to my Denon 2910, Toshiba A35, or PS3. The picture is very "solid" with no artificial color bias. Clarity and sharpness is also there as much as DVD can muster. To the point I caught myself looking at certain things on-screen and forget the movie. I did notice a bit of digital noise in backgrounds at times (w/ Diary of the Dead), but this is just DVD after all and I haven't used any test patterns yet to get Contrast/Brightness 100% correct. I also need to watch some more interlaced stuff since the player is known to be so-so with that material. A pleasant surprise was HDMI audio pass-through actually working. No matter how I set up the Denon it just wouldn't pass Dolby and DTS to my receiver via HDMI, only multi-channel PCM. With the Oppo I just set the HDMI Audio option to Auto and I had Dolby and DTS from the receiver. The 576p PAL picture quality was good on the pre-loaded firmware, but I noticed some shimmering lines with camera movement on a few discs. I updated the player to Oppo's Beta firmware (via USB, very easy and took no time) and afterward the same discs exhibited no shimmering. Very excellent. I haven't tried out any DVD-A or SACDs and haven't played around with the USB abilities, but so far this player is definitely worth $170. |
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hi, i have a question, i have read thant 980 dont' have macroblocking issue.
but the question is, the macroblocking is made by mpeg decoder or deintarlaccer? i want use this player whit my dvdo vp-20 on 576i by hdmi and i want sure to resolv this problem. i have benq w5000 and now whit my yamaha dvd-s2700 i see macroblocking on most dvd. whit 980 this problem dosen't exit?? thanks p.s: apologize my bad english ![]() |
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The macroblocking issue is technically "macroblock enhancement," meaning that disc includes a certain amount of macroblocking in the original video encode which the video processor stumbles on and exaggerates. The Yamaha S2700 uses a Faroudja chip for deinterlacing and scaling, and this is the same chip that OPPO has used in their 971H and 981HD players - which is why all three of those players are susceptible to macroblock enhancement. The 980H does not use the Faroudja chip.
If you are pairing the 980H with a video processor like the VP20, you will definitely want to output 480i (for NTSC) or 576i (for PAL) from the player to get maximum benefit from your video scaler. |
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Hi, OPPO came in yesterday, don't have a TV hooked up to it yet.. flipping through the manual I see there are a number of picture settings.. is the general consensus to just keep all the default settings and make the picture setting changes from the TV? (Other than setting to 16:9)
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I have an Oppo 980H and just bought a Western Digital 250Gig USB powered hard drive, and have discovered that the Oppo plays VOB files sequentially with NO FRAME DROPPING and with the Dolby Digital sound PERFECTLY intact, but have the same subtitle problem you referenced.. I HAVE found ONE DVD I burned so far [The Bee Movie] that there is NO subtitle problem, and I am going to try and discover WHY. I use DVD FAB to burn my DVD's to hard drive and PERHAPS I 'unchecked' the subtitle in ANY language on the configuration options right before BURNING the DVD to hard drive. Anyway, I was wondering if you've found a way to disable this annoyance. I'm very pleased that it even PLAYS VOB's with all of the posts to the contrary. I have the latest firmware installed on the OPPO etc.. Any help on the subtitle thing would be appreciated. -Jeff |
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As has been discussed in the past here, I strongly urge you to get an Avia or DVE disc and run through the process to calibrate your TV for the particular HDMI input that you'll use. It really does make a world of difference to do so, and it gives you a better idea of what settings to shoot for to get the best quality picture on the other settings.
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Has anyone here ever had an Oppo remote control go bad on them? My Oppo was just fine when I turned it off one evening, but the next morning it wouldn't respond to my remote control. I went through the standard checks, new batteries in the remote, checking the device operation from the front panel controls, unplugging the device and letting it sit for a few minutes, etc. No joy with anything I tried.
Oppo is mailing me a new remote control, but if that doesn't do the trick I am stuck with sending the device back to them and being without it for two weeks or more, something I want to avoid if at all possible as my wife and I have gotten hooked on viewing all our downloaded multimedia files on it. |
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I have gotten used to muting on switching discs (I use my 980H for sacds (DSD) and DVD-A primarily). However when I demonstrate this issue for friends who are considering the player for the same use, they all look for other options beyond the 980H (the thump is pretty bad on my system when it hits). I really hope this can be addressed at some point.
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#3989 | Link |
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Can you run the Oppo to an AVR over both HDMI and component at the same time?
The reason I ask is because for 90% of my discs I love the Oppo. The other 10% is older anime titles and they look pretty hideous after the Oppo gets done deinterlacing them. I'm using an Oppo 980H, Onkyo TX-SR605 and a Samsung HL-T5087S DLP rear projection TV. I want to set this up two ways at once: 1. Oppo: converts to 1080p HDMI to Onkyo HDMI to Samsung 2. Oppo: outputs 480i Component/coaxial audio to Onkyo Component to Samsung I know that the Onkyo will properly pass the component signal since it will only be 480i. The only question is if I can keep two output connections on the Oppo all the time or if I will have to juggle the connections depending on what content I'm watching. I'm asking this here because I don't have the proper cables to test this and would like to know the answer before I go buy cables. Does anybody have a definitive answer to this question? If this won't work then I'll be using a very old 480i/p dvd player for these titles. I'd prefer to just use one DVD player if possible. |
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980 outputs ALL connections all the time, so no prob doing component AND HDMI. However, if you want 1080p on HDMI, then it will be the same for component. Now HDCP kicks in for the component output, so commercially pressed discs with HDCP will then be output at 480p over component. The only way to get 480i, is to output 480i over both outputs.
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