Is this Toshiba CRT any good?

bkchurch · 07-28-07, 08:45 PM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16889253019

Just in case I can't find a 970 on Monday (was gonna do it Friday but couldn't) I was thinking of this Toshiba because I'm afraid if I get a Samsung Slimfit the geometry is gonna be beyond help. I heard Toshiba used to make really good TVs but I dunno if this is one of the Orion made ones that will look like crap and break within the first year.

fugiot · 07-29-07, 04:34 AM

It has a good picture and features, but it has flaws and it may break down on you.

au revoir · 07-29-07, 08:12 AM

Where's that guy who always defends Toshiba CRT's, when you really need him? I'm surprised he didn't spot this thread.

fugiot · 07-29-07, 02:23 PM

Might you be talking about me?

bkchurch · 07-29-07, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by fugiot

It has a good picture and features, but it has flaws and it may break down on you.

Can you elaborate on its flaws? And what are the chances of a breakdown?

au revoir · 07-29-07, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by fugiot

Might you be talking about me?

I think the guy's screen name was "Porcupine2" and every discussion he participated in seemed to end up as a huge argument for some reason.

RandyWalters · 08-03-07, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by au revoir

Where's that guy who always defends Toshiba CRT's, when you really need him? I'm surprised he didn't spot this thread.

You might be talking about Walter Chan, AKA "InYourEyes".

seamus21514 · 08-05-07, 01:48 PM

I have a 27 inch HD CRT, its really sharp, and has good contrast, yet there are bad overscan broblems on the left side of the screen.

SurfingMatt27 · 08-05-07, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by RandyWalters

You might be talking about Walter Chan, AKA "InYourEyes".

Yes that be him

Anybody that's been on this forum for the past 3-4 years will know him.

Bocatrip · 08-05-07, 07:09 PM

Hi all, I'm new to the forum but I thought I might be of some help. I was actually looking for a 2nd TV in LCD format and found this site. I'm going to order a tv this week from Costco from the feedback found here. As far as a Toshiba CRT goes, I have a 61" Model 61HX70 that I purchased in 2001 on sale for $1995. This CRT HDTV is on 24/7 and plays, looks, and sounds fantastic. It is one of the best TVs I have ever owned. All I can say is it's a Toshiba and I'm very happy with it. I hope that helps someones buying decision.

InYourEyes · 08-07-07, 02:40 AM

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Originally Posted by fugiot

It has a good picture and features, but it has flaws and it may break down on you.

Orion has always made products with flaws (like fit and finish), but their products don't really break down too fast. But of course, you always have a much higher chance getting a product breaking down fast made by Orion than by the leading brands, like JVC, Panasonic, Samsung, Sony, Toshiba (Toshiba-made only), etc. It depends on how much a buyer spends, and how much the buyer wants it to last. You get what you pay for.

Despite what I said, from what I read in this forum, very very few people have problems in the 30HF66 model.

InYourEyes · 08-07-07, 02:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Bocatrip

As far as a Toshiba CRT goes, I have a 61" Model 61HX70 that I purchased in 2001 on sale for $1995. This CRT HDTV is on 24/7 and plays, looks, and sounds fantastic. It is one of the best TVs I have ever owned. All I can say is it's a Toshiba and I'm very happy with it. I hope that helps someones buying decision.

Sorry to say, but your post is misleading. You are comparing apples and oranges, despite the same brand name. Orion and Toshiba are completely separate companies and have their own research and development design. Any TVs made by Toshiba always have a great picture quality, despite what year it is. You don't need to tell us.

like.no.other. · 08-07-07, 03:24 AM

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Originally Posted by InYourEyes

Sorry to say, but your post is misleading. You are comparing apples and oranges, despite the same brand name. Orion and Toshiba are completely separate companies and have their own research and development design. Any TVs made by Toshiba always have a great picture quality, despite what year it is. You don't need to tell us.

LMFAO

bkchurch · 08-07-07, 12:29 PM

Would you say I'd be better off going with a Samsung Slimfit? If I could get one without crippling geometry issues I feel like it may be less likely to break down and if it did it would be easier to return. Do you think the PQ would be about the same? With a 10% off coupon I could probably get a 30" Slimfit for $500.

Also does anyone know how many scan lines the Toshiba has? I heard Toshiba's CRT's have 1000x1080, assuming this is true will it make much of a difference compared to the Slimfit's 800x1080?

InYourEyes · 08-08-07, 01:54 AM

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Originally Posted by bkchurch

Would you say I'd be better off going with a Samsung Slimfit? If I could get one without crippling geometry issues I feel like it may be less likely to break down and if it did it would be easier to return. Do you think the PQ would be about the same? With a 10% off coupon I could probably get a 30" Slimfit for $500.

Also does anyone know how many scan lines the Toshiba has? I heard Toshiba's CRT's have 1000x1080, assuming this is true will it make much of a difference compared to the Slimfit's 800x1080?

Samsung has tried to install higher quality components in the SlimFits, but they are still not the most reliable out there. I think Orion and Samsung are pretty much equal in reliability right now. Historically in other products during the past 20 years, Orion has been slightly better than Samsung. If you want high reliability, look at the JVC or Sanyo.

WJonathan · 08-08-07, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by InYourEyes

Historically in other products during the past 20 years, Orion has been slightly better than Samsung. If you want high reliability, look at the JVC or Sanyo.

I'd like a copy of your quality surveys, sir.

like.no.other. · 08-08-07, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by InYourEyes

....If you want high reliability, look at the JVC or Sanyo.

Of all the TV you pick JVC and Sanyo over Sony

InYourEyes · 08-09-07, 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by WJonathan

I'd like a copy of your quality surveys, sir.

They're all in the old Consumer Reports Buying Guide books, which I have a huge stack since 1964. I can give you one example. In 1992, Emerson VHS VCRs, which were made by Orion back then, were the most reliable VCRs you could buy. They were better than Panasonic. Samsung, on the other hand, was almost rated at the bottom of the reliability chart. Unlike today, back then, everything made by a Korean brand is no good. Daewoo, GoldStar (now LG), and Samsung were terrible. Surprising, huh.

fugiot · 08-09-07, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by like.no.other.

Of all the TV you pick JVC and Sanyo over Sony

I think he's right. I don't know about JVC, but I know that Sanyo has a lower failure rate than Sony.

theroys88 · 08-09-07, 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by RandyWalters

You might be talking about Walter Chan, AKA "InYourEyes".

How I miss Walt. I enjoyed the verbal reactions from forum members. Quite entertaining.

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bkchurch AVS Special Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 2,801	Would you say I'd be better off going with a Samsung Slimfit? If I could get one without crippling geometry issues I feel like it may be less likely to break down and if it did it would be easier to return. Do you think the PQ would be about the same? With a 10% off coupon I could probably get a 30" Slimfit for $500. Also does anyone know how many scan lines the Toshiba has? I heard Toshiba's CRT's have 1000x1080, assuming this is true will it make much of a difference compared to the Slimfit's 800x1080?