Official Samsung LNT-xx71f Owners Thread

[sharpjunkie]

LNTxx71 series FAQ, Read this first before asking questions as you answer may lie within.....
LINK--------->http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...4#post12429454

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http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?k...jiHKvtE4iFSGCw
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The easiest way to test if you have the TBE on your tv is to get a ps3, download ninja gaiden demo, once the game starts just kill off the two ninjas that try to off you then when you have no more pesky enemies to bother you, spin your ninja in a circle and pay attention to the sword on his back as it turns into three swords as you spin. The swords have a varying degree of how noticeable they are according to what is in the back round behind the swords and how far off the background image is. Try it, it is fun and an easy way to determine if your set has the TBE. Then turn game mode on and spin your ninja again. No TBE.

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PLEASE-PLEASE:

Take 5 minutes out of your day and call in and report TBE and get to a Tier-II rep to report it:

Here is the process:

1-888-987-4357
1 (for English)
2 (for Electronics)
4 (for other products)
1 (for TV)
1 (for LCD..)
Credit to Zinkie
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********UPDATE Septemeber, 15 2007******************************************************** **************************
Known issues with the tv if anyone is experiencing them are as follows.... When watching sports, some people have noticed a triple picture on such things as footballs, golf balls, and tennis balls during fast motion. The fix for this if you are experiencing this issue is to go into the menu, go down to setup, and choose game mode and set this feature to on. Be advised game mode does not work the RF coaxial inputs so for those with HD OTA, so far there is no fix. Game mode has yielded positve results in this issue and at the moment a few memebers are having samsung techs coming out to observe the issue. Remember, these are new TV's so if you are experiencing the problem please call Samsung at 1-800-samsung 1-800-726-7864 mon-sun 9am-midnight EST so that they can be advised of the problem and get a firmware patch if possible.
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**********71 Calibration settings link********************
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=901174
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****BASIC INFO ON GETTING OUT OF SHOP MODE******************************************************** **************
If you tv is stuck in shop mode here is the way to turn shop mode off. Hit menu on the remote, go to setup, go to plug & play, hit start. Select home. Exit out after selecting home or if you are using OTA, the tv will try to re-find all the channels again and that could take a half hour so just exit after selecting home. Some folks put thier tv in shop mode by accident. You will know your tv is in shop mode if it doesn't remeber your settings and keeps going back to dynamic mode. A way to check this is by setting your tv to Movie mode. Turn the tv off, when you turn the tv back on it should still be on movie mode. If it is back on dynamic mode, follow the instructions above.
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************HOW TO CHECK FOR YOUR TV's FIRMWARE**************************************************** ***************
To check your firmware version, here are the instructions:

1. Turn on your TV.
2. Press the MENU button on your remote.
3. Select SETUP, and then press ENTER.
4. Select Function Help, and then press ENTER.
5. Use the Up or Down arrow button on your remote to move down to Function Help to ON,
6. With Function Help ON highlighted (don't actually push ENTER on it), press the INFO button on the remote. Your firmware revision will be listed as two lines of information. The TOP line is your software firmware. The BOTTOM line is the hardware revision number.
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: power cumsumption

backlite at 1 (power save has no effect)= 85watts
backlite at 4 power save at low(ok for me)= 120watts
backlite at 5 power save at low =150watts
backlite at 5 power save OFF =190watts
backlite at 10 power save OFF =300watts

Features:

TV/Video

HD-grade 1920(H) x 1080(V) pixel resolution
High resolution pixel density with built-in image scaler to handle inputs from a variety of digital and analog audio/ video sources
Widescreen Aspect Ratio
Wide Color Garnut CCFL backlight
Provides colors in your picture that were not available before
10 Bit Processing
25000:1 dynamic contrast ratio
As two of the most important determining factors in overall picture quality, contrast and brightness levels achieve new heights in this latest generation LCD panel. Samsung’s new LCD TV’s give the most stunning realistic picture quality ever from a flat panel set
120Hz Refresh Rate
Wide color enhancer
Optimizes a color’s hue resulting in more natural colors
Auto Motion Plus
Built-In Digital Tuner (ATSC/Clear QAM)
Fast 8ms Response Time
Picture-in-Picture
Enables convenient simultaneous viewing of TV programs and video or PC sources
Super Clear Panel
Audio

Watts per channel: 10W x 2
SRS TruSurround XT™
TruSurround is a patented SRS technology that solves the problem of playing 5.1 multichannel content over two speakers. TruSurround delivers a compelling, virtual surround sound experience through any two-speaker playback system, including internal television speakers and headphones. It is fully compatible with all multichannel formats up to 5.1 channels
"Hidden" Side Speakers
Sound Leveler
Premium Audio With Dedicated Low Range Speakers
Connections

3 HDMI — High Definition Multimedia Interface version 1.3 (2 rear/1 side)
2 Component video inputs
2 S-video inputs (1 side/1 rear)
Side and Rear A/V inputs
PC input
USB 2.0
RF antenna inputs
Swivel stand
HDMI - CEC
Specifications:

General

Product Type: 40, 46, 52, in LCD TV
Series: 71 Series
Digital Television Certification: HDTV
PC Interface: HDMI, VGA (HD-15)
USB Port
Display

Diagonal Size: 46 in - Widescreen
Technology: TFT active matrix
Resolution: 1920 x 1080
Display Format: 1080p (FullHD)
Image Aspect Ratio: 16:9
120Hz
LCD Backlight Technology: Wide Color Gamut-CCFL
Dynamic Contrast Ratio: 25000:1
Progressive Scan: Progressive scanning (line doubling)
Viewing Angle: 178 degrees
Viewing Angle (Vertical): 178 degrees
Pixel Response Time: 8 ms
Analog Video Signal: S-Video
Additional Features: MP3 playback, JPEG photo playback
TV Tuner

Reception System: ATSC, Clear QAM
Digital TV Tuner

Digital TV Tuner: QAM, ATSC
Video Features

HDTV Ready
Remote Control

Remote Control: Universal remote control - Infrared
Supported Devices: Audio/video components
Audio System

Sound Output Mode: Stereo
Sound Effects: SRS TruSurround XT
Audio Controls: Balance, Bass, Treble
Speakers Included: 2 speakers
Output Power / Total: 20 Watt
Speaker(s): 2 x Right/left channel speaker - Built-in - 10 Watt
Connections

Connector Type: Rear, 3 x HDMI ( 19 pin HDMI Type A ) - Side, x Hi-Speed USB, 2 x S-Video input ( 4 pin mini-DIN, 2 x Component video input ( RCA phono x 3, x Audio line-in ( RCA phono x 2, x VGA input ( 15 pin HD D-Sub (HD-15)
Stands & Mounts

Stand Included
Stand Design: Tabletop
Stand Features: Swivel
Miscellaneous

Antenna: None
Power

Power Supply: Internal
Battery: None

From the Manufacturer
For those who are ready for the clearest, brightest picture on the market today, Samsung presents the LN-T4671F. Full 1080p resolution is just the beginning: Samsung's incredible Auto Motion Plus 120Hz technology reduces motion blur for crisp, precise action. The color-saturated 46" picture boasts a 25,000:1 dynamic contrast ratio, displaying rich blacks and capturing subtle nuances. A fast 8ms response time ensures smooth, lifelike motion. SRS TruSurround XT™ sound from hidden side speakers is enhanced by the premium audio sound of 2.2 channel dome speakers. Enjoy connectivity with all your other digital devices, with 3 HDMI ports and a full complement of inputs. And the handy HDMI-CEC feature lets you control all your CEC-enabled peripherals using just one remote.

Product Description
ATSC & QAM Tuner / Auto Motion Plus / 3 HDMI-CEC / 10-bit Processing / Component & PC Input / Swivel Stand / Piano Black


This technology doubles the frame rate from 60 to 120 frames per second (120Hz LCD panel) without repeating the same image to make more frames. Instead, the TV intelligently calculates the ‘middle’ image between frame A and frame B and inserts it in between (Auto Motion Plus 120Hz processor), making a fluid transition from one frame to the next.



Samsung’s super clear panel is a new dimension in image clarity, highlighting black and darkened areas, enabling vibrant, more compelling colors and a brighter, clearer picture. The highest contrast ratio enables our super clear panel design to provide you with a picture that you have to see to believe.


25,000:1 Dynamic Contrast Ratio will give you a picture better than you ever thought possible, with whiter whites, blacker blacks and a nearly infinite subtlety of gradations in between.


Full HD, or 1080p, contains 1.5 times more scanning lines than conventional HD TVs. More scanning lines mean more pixels, more details and a better picture. The new Samsung LCD TV with resolution that is approximately 2 times greater than conventional HD TVs, creating the most perfect picture imaginable.


Samsung’s exclusive Wide Color Enhancer technology delivers more brilliant colors, even in bright areas of the picture where blues and greens are washed out on conventional screens. The system displays wider color reproduction, showing you truer colors – the fresh green of spring foliage, the intense blue of the summer sky.


Three High Definition Multimedia InterfaceTM (HDMI) connections make your TV a multimedia centerpiece. Connect HD digital devices like disc players, game consoles, and satellite dish components into the 2 rear connections and use the side-mounted input for cameras, camcorders, and laptops. HDMI is the best performing interface for displaying an HD source on an HDTV.





Link to online pdf manual.
http://www.samsung.com/us/support/do...996&prd_ia_cd=

[drewde]

Looks great so far! Can't wait to hear your review. When you were at CC was there a display unit? If so were you able to compare it to the new pioneers? The 81 series? XBR4s???

Eager to hear what this baby can do!!!

Congratulations!

[djnaruto]

Looks great. Are these available on the CC website for purchase or is it in-store for now? I tried searching for it, but nothing came up. Also, how much was the total? I'm in the market for one and will get it if they're available in California CC's.

[mark_1080p]

OK, no G-word here.
Just a basic Q: The specs are 25,000 dynamic.
That is a very high number.
Does this thing beat the Sharp d92 in the dark?
Any black crush, is it like a 65 series panel only blacker?

[sharpjunkie]

Originally Posted by drewde

Looks great so far! Can't wait to hear your review. When you were at CC was there a display unit? If so were you able to compare it to the new pioneers? The 81 series? XBR4s???

Eager to hear what this baby can do!!!

Congratulations!

Yes xbr4 was there. Didn't notice the pioneers. Yes there was a display unit playing 300 on blu ray and TMNT. The 71 was in a room by herself so hard to run over and compare it to the XBR4. I was going to either get this, the xbr4, or the 81. The xbr looked great but this did too. To hard to compare one another in a bright CC light up from floor to ceiling with bulbs.

Originally Posted by djnaruto

Looks great. Are these available on the CC website for purchase or is it in-store for now? I tried searching for it, but nothing came up. Also, how much was the total? I'm in the market for one and will get it if they're available in California CC's.

Not on the website yet, the CSR at the store said that they have no info from samsung so they have nothing to post on thier website... I only heard from a CSR at Best buy across the street that he saw it there and told me to go there to check it out if I was interested. There is always a group of people checking out the 71 when I go to CC the past 2 days...

[BinkAVSF]

Originally Posted by sharpjunkie

Can't figure out how to make games play in 1080p on ps3. They just default to standard 720p.

NICE! Looking forward to hearing more from you... FWIW, all the PS3 games I've seen so far are 720p, so I'm not certain what 1080p will do for you (us).

[sharpjunkie]

Originally Posted by mark_1080p

OK, no G-word here.
Just a basic Q: The specs are 25,000 dynamic.
That is a very high number.
Does this thing beat the Sharp d92 in the dark?
Any black crush, is it like a 65 series panel only blacker?

It's not the g word anymore it is now know as FOG. In the dark I would say yes but it is hard to remember what the D92 looked like. I mean I turned this thing on in a bright room in the middle of the day, un-calibrated, ps3 playing casino royal un-calibrated, since I don't know what settings to put on the ps3 besides 1080p24. Once it started I just stared at it thinking holy &*$@. On the blu ray I have not noticed black crush yet. Pretty detailed from black to white. Still have a lot to do to it at the moment. Yes it is like the 65 just more black. The bezel is the same color as the 16x9 strips. With all the lights out. I don't even see the bezel or the black bars during a dark scene. Just the bright blue samsung line and the picture. The whites are eye piercing. Need to tone those down a bit.

[sharpjunkie]

Originally Posted by BinkAVSF

NICE! Looking forward to hearing more from you... FWIW, all the PS3 games I've seen so far are 720p, so I'm not certain what 1080p will do for you (us).

I don't mind the format that they are in. I would just rather have my ps3 upscale the output to 1920x1080 so that my tv can focus on other stuff than processing the image to native. My 360 games seem to run smoother when set at 1080p than the games on ps3 at 720p.

[dandrop]

Thanks for the review so far Sharpjunkie.

I'm sure many of us would like to hear your impression/comparison between the 4665 and your new 4671. You think it's worth the price difference?

[sharpjunkie]

Originally Posted by dandrop

Thanks for the review so far Sharpjunkie.

I'm sure many of us would like to hear your impression/comparison between the 4665 and your new 4671. You think it's worth the price difference?

Well my price difference would have been about 700 or 800 from the 4665 to the 4671. I would say maybe. LoL. The 1080p24 looks amazing. The 5/5 pulldown makes no judder at all. Well none that I can notice right now at the moment compared to the 66f, I would notice some skipping on it for sure. The automotion plus is kind of a joke for movies as you may have heard. You really need to experience it on High to understand how bad it is. I have yet to see a sports games to use it to see what it is like on HD for sports. I do use it on low setting when I was playing bio-shock and it gives an almost pc shooter smoothness to the game. Looks amazing. The feature is still very young so we will see. I can't wait to bring some friends over. They will crap thier pants when they see blu ray on this.

[mark_1080p]

Originally Posted by sharpjunkie

Yes it is like the 65 just more black. The bezel is the same color as the 16x9 strips. With all the lights out. I don't even see the bezel or the black bars during a dark scene. Just the bright blue samsung line and the picture. The whites are eye piercing. Need to tone those down a bit.

Holy Crapola, that is saying a lot if it is blacker than the 65. If you have eye-piercing whites at the same time you have these blacks, that really does sound like Sammy has hit the mark. I have been saying - look out for the 71, this may be a real surprise. Perhaps you could turn the E savings to high in the setup menu, then get the backlight to about 6 or so. The you should see just how low the blacks can go, and still have decent brightness. Congrats, looks like a great choice.

[drewde]

A bit off the 71 topic but related since the XBR4/5 have come up as a comparison. I was in a store that had both XBR3 and XBR4 right next to each other with the exact same feed... honestly I didn't think the new XBR4s looked much better if at all. I tried really hard to see if there was more shadow detail, smoother color gradations, more contrast, etc... didn't see it. I was looking at both 40" and 46" sets with both old and new models... really couldn't see any significant difference.

[sharpjunkie]

Originally Posted by drewde

A bit off the 71 topic but related since the XBR4/5 have come up as a comparison. I was in a store that had both XBR3 and XBR4 right next to each other with the exact same feed... honestly I didn't think the new XBR4s looked much better if at all. I tried really hard to see if there was more shadow detail, smoother color gradations, more contrast, etc... didn't see it. I was looking at both 40" and 46" sets with both old and new models... really couldn't see any significant difference.

Well the msrp isn't that different on those sets either. It is all about being able to do 1080p24 well. That is the major update. 120hz. I still have my eye on the 81 so if that comes out in the next 29 days and just kills everything out there, I might have to upgrade. But for now I got a great price from CC and this thing is knocking my socks.

Do they make a blu-ray avia calibration disk or will the standard dvd avia disk work. I do have that one... Does it matter?
I seriously whish I bought a nice digital cam cause my iPhone just isn't cutting it....

FOR MARK1080P, the csr at CC told me not to wash the screen with windex and use a special non-ammonia, non-alchoholic, non-abrasive(duh like I was going to use comet) wash on the screen since it is treated with 5 layers of anti-glare. He might have just been trying to up-sell some screen clean product. He did point to a plasma that he said had the coating. He said one of the CSR's washed with windex and it had a huge round blotch in the upper left. So I don't know...

[SharpOne]

Sharp,

If you downloaded the Gran Turismo demo off the PSN network, I believe it plays at 1080P. I have played it a few times on my Tosh 52LX177, and it looks fantastic. Run the replay on it and snap a shot and post it...should wow everyone. Also I downloaded the Stardust HD game, and it looks really good. I believe that is a 1080P game as well...pretty fun too. Should look great on your set as well.

BTW, I'm running HDMI from PS3. Are you?

[sharpjunkie]

Originally Posted by SharpOne

Sharp,

If you downloaded the Gran Turismo demo off the PSN network, I believe it plays at 1080P. I have played it a few times on my Tosh 52LX177, and it looks fantastic. Run the replay on it and snap a shot and post it...should wow everyone. Also I downloaded the Stardust HD game, and it looks really good. I believe that is a 1080P game as well...pretty fun too. Should look great on your set as well.

BTW, I'm running HDMI from PS3. Are you?

Will download it right now and see what happens....

Originally Posted by davidjschenk

"Comet."

Feh.

Git yer balls back into yer sack and get some good, manly Lava soap and steel wool for that thing, mister.

Seriously, though, man, that comment just made my night. I had such a vivid mental image of you scrubbing away on that poor screen.

-David

Haha, nice.....

quick little review update. After I mounted the tv, I was wondering how in the world to turn it on without the remote. I just kind of sat on my carpet with my legs crossed like a monk in prayer just starring at the bezel for some damn sign. There is no power button. On the right bottom side of the tv there are some touch sensitive buttons like the ps3. Menu, source, volume, and channel.

[SharpOne]

lol, btw Sharp, are all those pictures from your camera phone.

To me they look pretty good for a camera phone. Most pictures I've seen look pretty blurry. A friend of mine was trying to show me a picture of some car rims he shot, and I was like yeah, they look good. But in my head I was like, man I can't see sh** in that picture.

[alangmc]

Hey SharpJunkie,
It looks like your panel is tilted downwards. Does this thing tilt on its stand?

[joeLTron]

Just got mine...AND I HAVE A DEAD PIXEL!

I'm going to wait for the 81's to hit and return it for that or the XBR4...or if I still like the 71 more, another 71...I have the worst luck with LCD's and dead pixels.

[joeLTron]

Oh...sharpjunkie. The 1080p game thing on PS3...the game needs to be natively done in 1080p for it to run in 1080p. Its not like on the 360 how no matter what its always going to play in the resolution of choice.

[sharpjunkie]

Originally Posted by SharpOne

Sharp,

BTW, I'm running HDMI from PS3. Are you?

Yes HDMI

Originally Posted by SharpOne

lol, btw Sharp, are all those pictures from your camera phone.

To me they look pretty good for a camera phone. Most pictures I've seen look pretty blurry. A friend of mine was trying to show me a picture of some car rims he shot, and I was like yeah, they look good. But in my head I was like, man I can't see sh** in that picture.

Yeah using the iPhone. It is 2.0 mega pixel. Looks like crap compared to a nice camera but that's all I have at the moment since I just spent a wad on a new tv lol.

Originally Posted by alangmc

Hey SharpJunkie,
It looks like your panel is tilted downwards. Does this thing tilt on its stand?

My panel is wall mounted at a 15 degree invert towards me. Gives me the best viewing angle when I am sitting/laying on the couch. It is mounted about 5 feet off the ground so if it were to be flush against the wall, then I would be viewing it off angle.

Originally Posted by joeLTron

Just got mine...AND I HAVE A DEAD PIXEL!

I'm going to wait for the 81's to hit and return it for that or the XBR4...or if I still like the 71 more, another 71...I have the worst luck with LCD's and dead pixels.

Joe, is that a 46? I am too afraid to go looking for pixels cause once I find one I will always try to look for it. I have had my face inches from the screen but haven't noticed anything yet... Joe's picture shows how freakn black the backround is. Not a single pillar, cloud, flashlight, strobe, mirrorball, nothing just blackness....

[darkninja67]

The color on the Casino Royale looks great. No issues with HDMI or anything like that?
Congrats on a winner there dude. Looks great.

[sharpjunkie]

Forgot that I had downloaded the ridgeracer 1080p demo. Here it is. I popped it in and OMFG. Are you serious? The draw distance is amazing. I could see for miles. I used automotion plus on low and the framerate was soooo smooth. Not one hiccup, not one refresh line. I swear I had 3d glasses on. Sorry for the bad iphone pics. Had to get really close to the screen..

[sharpjunkie]

Originally Posted by darkninja67

The color on the Casino Royale looks great. No issues with HDMI or anything like that?
Congrats on a winner there dude. Looks great.

No HDMI flashes. Just the usual stupid handshake. If I turn the ps3 on it works fine. I pop in a blu-ray and the screen goes to black with blue box saying searching for signal then the movie starts. With the 360 I never get that handshake. If I pop in a movie on my 360 elite it just says something on the bottom like when a friend pops on. It says something like HDCP certified. Played bioshock demo 3 times with no problems. Rainbowsix 360, no problems. PS3 games, demos, blu-ray, no problems. Watched hero's repeat on the cable coax input with no problems. So far so good...

[ciid]

ok wich one of you has gears of war....lol.trying to hold out for the price on the 46" 81 to come down but the 4671 is tempting

[sharpjunkie]

Originally Posted by ciid

ok wich one of you has gears of war....lol.trying to hold out for the price on the 46" 81 to come down but the 4671 is tempting

Damn, don't have that game anymore. I am about to drive to walmart to pick up bioshock and play that all night on the 360 to really put this 71 to a benchmark test. That game has some serious blacks. I just know that if I go get it right now, I will not sleep tonight. I just can't turn this tv off.

EDIT: Damnit, walmart confirmed my worst fear, they are selling bioshock tonight at midnight. See you guys in about 30 minutes. I won't be sleeping tonight. Good thing I don't work until thursday.

[wtfer]

Originally Posted by joeLTron

Just got mine...AND I HAVE A DEAD PIXEL!

I'm going to wait for the 81's to hit and return it for that or the XBR4...or if I still like the 71 more, another 71...I have the worst luck with LCD's and dead pixels.

maybe mark1080p can stop whinning, the gloss is not that bad as I was always saying.

[007craft]

dear god. I think you sold me on the 71 there. I really cant see the $900 price increase for an 81 series justifiable. This tv looks damn fine, and my biggest concern is claimed to be solved (motion blur).

Can you do me a favor. Download a 360 game demo from the marketplace (free) that runs at a solid 60fps and see how motion blur looks (with and without motionplus on). Im still concerned about these 60fps games. COD 2 is a 60fps game. Also if your up for it, try the burnout revenge demo, cause that game is blazing fast since its an arcade racer.

[Raitzi]

Ok. Im sold for this one.(just have to wait f86(71) to arrive here) Since it looks so good and it seems that we are not getting 40" or 46" 81-series(f96) here in europe, i have made up my mind

Thanks for pics and review.

[joeLTron]

The TV is sick...watch TMNT on HD and prepare to be amazed!

As far as my dead pixel is concerned, it's not even noticeable unless you were to reaaaaaaaaaaaally go searching. I'm just nitpicking because no one wants to spend a couple thousand on a display and have a defect.

And yes, it is the 46

[sharpjunkie]

Originally Posted by joeLTron

The TV is sick...watch TMNT on HD and prepare to be amazed!

As far as my dead pixel is concerned, it's not even noticeable unless you were to reaaaaaaaaaaaally go searching. I'm just nitpicking because no one wants to spend a couple thousand on a display and have a defect.

And yes, it is the 46

Ok I will go download COD2 and Burnout I think I have. I just bought bioshock at walmart and I will be playing that all night and will post some pics as I progress. I will try the motionplus off and on to see what effects it will have. So far the motionplus for gaming adds alot of artifacts on High, on medium they are still there, on low it is just right to give the game that added smoothness. And it is game dependent. Some racers I use it on medium and some shooters I use it on low and medium just test it out to see what works the best for you. Yeah that TMNT does look amazing. No wonder they had it demoed at the store on the 71. Sorry about that pixel. It sucks, I feel your pain. You shouldn't be able to see it from 8-10 feet.