Denon Blu-Ray Player Delayed Until Q2 2008-

Spizz · 08-23-07, 09:10 AM

Maybe the Paramount going HD-DVD had something to do with it and they are working on Dual player or one that at least has a Denon Link output and SACD/DVD-A support?

Either way this player is looking more like my next player to replace my Panasonic DMP-BD10 & Toshiba XE1 (XA2) players.

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Denon delays Profile 1.1 Blu-ray player till 2008
Denon’s widely reported Profile 1.1 Blu-ray player is unlikely to launch (certainly in Europe) until Q2 2008. Consequently, it’s unlikely now to be the first profile 1.1 Blu-ray deck to market. So says Denon UK’s Roger Batchelor, who also confirms that the brand’s advanced AVP-A1HD and POA-A1HD pre-power combo have also been delayed. The POA-A1HD is a THX Ultra2 certified 10-channel power amplifier designed to match the AVP-A1HD THX Ultra2 A1HD pre amplifier. The pair was first unveiled at the Munich High-End show, back in May. The A1HD is DLNA (Digital network Living Alliance) compatible, able to access and stream media from PCs or DNLA devices on a home network. Itâ€™s also equipped with the latest Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio decoders.
Marketing manager for product planning and marketing, Jun Igarashi, says that the company intends to allow its customers to access to whatever media they have, wherever it is.

Poolrad · 08-23-07, 09:18 AM

That's bad, something is probably going on behind the scenes.

CEDIA is going to be very interesting this year.

GoND · 08-23-07, 09:24 AM

Maybe they saw the various rants from people, including me, that said they had the money to spend on a nice player, but didn't want to take the risk of it only supporting one format.

Denon- I don't want to have to have an Oppo981, Toshiba XA2, and your player. I want those features all in one quality player. I guess I can dream...

Caurus · 08-23-07, 09:30 AM

It looks like that is exactly what they realized: "Marketing manager for product planning and marketing, Jun Igarashi, says that the company intends to allow its customers to access to whatever media they have, wherever it is."

I would love to get a Denon combo player!

LiquidX · 08-23-07, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Poolrad

That's bad, something is probably going on behind the scenes.

CEDIA is going to be very interesting this year.

There is supposed to be some big news at CEDIA. I'm also thinking a dual format player, but Robert's postings lead me to believe that this could be something more sinister for BD.

GoND · 08-23-07, 09:50 AM

If they include HD DVD, and multi channel SACD & DVD-A, all fully functional with HDMI, I'll preorder one as soon as it's available.

John Ballentine · 08-23-07, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by GoND

Denon- I don't want to have to have an Oppo981, Toshiba XA2, and your player. I want those features all in one quality player. I guess I can dream...

+1

paintit77 · 08-23-07, 12:42 PM

I cannot say in words how dissapointing this is. I had my heart set on this player!

What ever the reason for them delaying it better be worth it!

vdmai · 08-23-07, 01:53 PM

Waiting 2 more quarters a true universal players would be great. Better that way than they release the 3800 and 2500 now just for BD and a year later for a uni player.

Eternal_Sunshine · 08-23-07, 02:03 PM

Spizz,

what exactly is the source that you quote for the alleged Denon delay?

Woodshed · 08-23-07, 02:18 PM

OK so let's say they are delaying these players...........

If this is such a bad thing for BR and the writing is on the wall, why did they delay their pre-amp and amplifier too?

Probably the BDA screwed them and they can't implement 1.1 comatibility in their new pre-amp and amp...............Sounds pretty far-fetched, no?

Goatspeed · 08-23-07, 02:48 PM

I'll buy this player whenever it is available.

Jay_Davis · 08-23-07, 02:52 PM

Maybe the marketing department just promised to deliver too many products in too short a period of time. Like that's never happened.

5thDanMaster · 08-23-07, 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Poolrad

That's bad, something is probably going on behind the scenes.

CEDIA is going to be very interesting this year.

Damnationdoormat · 08-23-07, 05:22 PM

...the company intends to allow its customers to access to whatever media they have, wherever it is.

HD DVD?

Urza · 08-23-07, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Damnationdoormat

...the company intends to allow its customers to access to whatever media they have, wherever it is.

HD DVD?

Yea, kinda sounds like Dual Player. God that would cost $$$$$$$$$$$$$

rkgriffin · 08-23-07, 06:01 PM

I hope they announce a reason for the delay next month at Cedia. The way things are going now with this stupid war they might be re-thinking Blu-ray only.

Ebanks · 08-23-07, 08:08 PM

Well this sucks... I was planning on buying the cheaper one that didn't have the video processing built in.

Talkstr8t · 08-23-07, 08:50 PM

It looks to me like that quote is referencing the DLNA capability, not a dual-format player.

UxiSXRD · 08-23-07, 09:37 PM

Wonder why they would delay the pre/pro, too. IS there still a shortage of HDMI 1.3 chipsets, perhaps? Or maybe the DTS-HDMA hardware/software?

Slim GoodBooty · 08-23-07, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Caurus

It looks like that is exactly what they realized: "Marketing manager for product planning and marketing, Jun Igarashi, says that the company intends to allow its customers to access to whatever media they have, wherever it is."

I would love to get a Denon combo player!

HDDVD and network playback?
I'm so in!

MMann357 · 08-23-07, 11:08 PM

Has anyone found the actual new article? As near as I can tell this was originally posted on AVzomibe.com on August 17, but has since been pulled... Also, twice.com posted this referencing AVzombie, but they have also pulled it off their website...

WriteSimple · 08-24-07, 05:45 AM

Can't find it on Google. Tried "blu-ray igarashi" and yielded links to the first post on this thread only. Maybe another one of those "I-read-it-somewhere" FUD.

fuad

kucharsk · 08-24-07, 09:40 AM

For what it's worth, the Denon USA website still has the July 27 press release from the line show up; if the players had truly slipped odds are they would have pulled it.

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Originally Posted by Slim GoodBooty

I repeat, the bit meter is not a special feature.

By the way, no Denon DVD player as far as I can remember has ever had a bit meter, nor have they ever had a way to shut off the OSD, so that when you pause a disc, it says "PAUSE" in the corner until the screen saver kicks in...

joerod · 08-24-07, 09:43 AM

I am looking forward to trying this one out. Hope the delay is not that loooong! :eek;

phansson · 08-24-07, 11:37 AM

Where does it state they are working on a dual format player?

Plus, Denon in the past has released players in the US and Japan quite a bit before Europe.

eulogytool · 08-24-07, 11:50 AM

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Where does it state they are working on a dual format player?

It doesn't. It's just speculation.

Is this delay just for the U.K. unit, or is it for the U.S. 3800BD, also? Does anyone know this? I wonder if this news is even credible, since it can't be found anywhere else. But I can't help but think, this may have something to do with the 'pending Warner announcement'.

rkgriffin · 08-24-07, 12:02 PM

Just keep emailing Denon. Hopefully one of us will get a reply.

eightninesuited · 08-24-07, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by GoND

If they include HD DVD, and multi channel SACD & DVD-A, all fully functional with HDMI, I'll preorder one as soon as it's available.

I'm not paying that kind of price unless this happens.

mstrbass2000 · 08-24-07, 12:20 PM

many of the blu ray stand alone manufacturers are gonna go neutral and come out with hddvd players or combos ,they already know that the 199 msrp will be static and have been planning to comeout with players around that price range

1 big will switch to exclusive
1 small will go neutral

the race to mass adoption begins,imo

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Caurus Hydra slayer Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 482	It looks like that is exactly what they realized: "Marketing manager for product planning and marketing, Jun Igarashi, says that the company intends to allow its customers to access to whatever media they have, wherever it is." I would love to get a Denon combo player! __________________ Format neutral! (prefering HD DVD which is build on quality while blu-ray is build on marketing) CETERUM CENSEO BLU-RAYEM ESSE DELENDAM!

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vdmai Just a Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Costa Mesa, CA Posts: 508	Waiting 2 more quarters a true universal players would be great. Better that way than they release the 3800 and 2500 now just for BD and a year later for a uni player. __________________ Daniel

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Damnationdoormat AVS Special Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 1,716	...the company intends to allow its customers to access to whatever media they have, wherever it is. HD DVD?

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Talkstr8t Blu-ray Insider Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Los Altos, CA, USA Posts: 2,726	It looks to me like that quote is referencing the DLNA capability, not a dual-format player. __________________ Blu-ray Insider Speaking solely for myself, not the BDA

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Poolrad AVS Special Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 1,291	That's bad, something is probably going on behind the scenes. CEDIA is going to be very interesting this year.

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GoND Advanced Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 707	Maybe they saw the various rants from people, including me, that said they had the money to spend on a nice player, but didn't want to take the risk of it only supporting one format. Denon- I don't want to have to have an Oppo981, Toshiba XA2, and your player. I want those features all in one quality player. I guess I can dream...

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GoND Advanced Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 707	If they include HD DVD, and multi channel SACD & DVD-A, all fully functional with HDMI, I'll preorder one as soon as it's available.

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paintit77 AVS Special Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Broomfield, CO Posts: 1,444	I cannot say in words how dissapointing this is. I had my heart set on this player! What ever the reason for them delaying it better be worth it!

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Woodshed AVS Special Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 1,801	OK so let's say they are delaying these players........... If this is such a bad thing for BR and the writing is on the wall, why did they delay their pre-amp and amplifier too? Probably the BDA screwed them and they can't implement 1.1 comatibility in their new pre-amp and amp...............Sounds pretty far-fetched, no?

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Goatspeed Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 499	I'll buy this player whenever it is available.

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Jay_Davis AVS Special Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,872	Maybe the marketing department just promised to deliver too many products in too short a period of time. Like that's never happened.

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rkgriffin Advanced Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: SF Bay Area Posts: 757	I hope they announce a reason for the delay next month at Cedia. The way things are going now with this stupid war they might be re-thinking Blu-ray only.

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Ebanks Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 129	Well this sucks... I was planning on buying the cheaper one that didn't have the video processing built in.

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UxiSXRD Jedi Master Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Southern California Posts: 5,533	Wonder why they would delay the pre/pro, too. IS there still a shortage of HDMI 1.3 chipsets, perhaps? Or maybe the DTS-HDMA hardware/software? __________________ -- "No matter where you go, there you are." SXRD/Denon/Polk/PS3/360 Blu-ray bliss with the great PlayStation 3! SXRD Owner's Thread PSN: Uxi

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MMann357 Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 101	Has anyone found the actual new article? As near as I can tell this was originally posted on AVzomibe.com on August 17, but has since been pulled... Also, twice.com posted this referencing AVzombie, but they have also pulled it off their website...

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WriteSimple AVS Special Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: KL, Malaysia. Posts: 3,206	Can't find it on Google. Tried "blu-ray igarashi" and yielded links to the first post on this thread only. Maybe another one of those "I-read-it-somewhere" FUD. fuad __________________ "Don’t let them tell you who you are is not enough, that it’s wrong and that you won’t find love. Don’t let them use my life to put your future down, or tell you that happiness can’t be found."

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joerod End User Clinician AVS CLUB MEMBER Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: MIDWEST (just outside Chicago) Posts: 18,489	I am looking forward to trying this one out. Hope the delay is not that loooong! :eek; __________________ 438 Blu ray titles! Latest Fav- The Hangover For my unbiased Reviews, Screen shots and more go to: http joerodhometheater.com/about.html

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phansson AVS Special Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: usa Posts: 2,665 Classified Rating: 100% (2)	Where does it state they are working on a dual format player? Plus, Denon in the past has released players in the US and Japan quite a bit before Europe. __________________ My home theater

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rkgriffin Advanced Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: SF Bay Area Posts: 757	Just keep emailing Denon. Hopefully one of us will get a reply.

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mstrbass2000 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 241 Classified Rating: 100% (3)	many of the blu ray stand alone manufacturers are gonna go neutral and come out with hddvd players or combos ,they already know that the 199 msrp will be static and have been planning to comeout with players around that price range 1 big will switch to exclusive 1 small will go neutral the race to mass adoption begins,imo