Samsung 69 series (LN-Txx69F) 120Hz LCDs Anticipation Thread

tombaker · 09-08-07, 05:59 PM

Coming out much like the xx61 to xx65 series, within a month or so will appear the new 69 series.....which like the 61 vs 65 will be 300-700 dollars cheaper on the street vs the Gloss.

The 120hz effect is particularly dramatic as borf has given us access to some early screenshots.

Quote:

Originally Posted by borf

It's should make everything look better.

http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/cedia07/s...ice-297647.php

Samsung 69 Series Offers Sweet 120Hz Video for Lower Price
Take a look at the new Samsung 69 series (LN-T4069F) of 120Hz LCDs just announced here at CEDIA, taking 40-inch and 46-inch 1080p screens slightly downmarket from the company's high-end TVs. But these cheaper models thankfully lack one downside we've noticed: that glossy screen on the higher-end TVs reflects everything in sight. Sammy calls it a Super Clear panel, but we tend to refer to it as "super-glare."

This new line delivers those 120Hz smooth-moving pics to those who have about $200 less moo-laa available for such things, but boasts a slightly lower contrast ratio for that reduced price. If you like that high-contrasty look with a shiny screen—say, you don't have a lot of bright lights or windows in the back of your TV room—you might want to opt for Samsung's upscale 71 series, but for the rest of us, these two lower-priced screens might do the trick.

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lipcrkr · 09-08-07, 08:02 PM

Is "no 52" sux" allowed?

tombaker · 09-08-07, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by lipcrkr

Is "no 52" sux" allowed?

Certainly....you can feel free to insult Corporate entities too.

My guess to why no 52 is at that size you have people designing a viewing room for the TV so you can reduce the risks of glare much easier.

The smaller sizes get dunked into so many different viewing angles.....that you really need a matte finish.....I certainly understand the people who like Gloss....but I am never ever buy a glossy reflection-vision type of display.

trendscape · 09-08-07, 09:17 PM

I like the look of the 69 series. And losing the glossy finish might be a real blessing too. I can live with a 46-inch no problem!

VoxExMachina · 09-09-07, 08:25 PM

When will they be available?

reign80 · 09-09-07, 09:36 PM

So the glossy screen is not good if the window is shining light toward the tv screen? Because that's how I have my room set up right now.

Goalier95 · 09-10-07, 12:14 AM

Is it me or is the top and bottom "squeezed" in and not straight across? I'm talking about the bezel and not the actual screen itself.

tombaker · 09-10-07, 01:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sumer

Tom thanx for this Thread, a lower-priced 120Hz TV would be a winner.

The site u linked to says the 69-series will be $200 cheaper, but u think it'll be more like $300-$700 ?
I asked Crutchfield to get on this. Will post here any info they get.

It would be about 300 street...if the MSRP difference is 200

tombaker · 09-10-07, 01:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Goalier95

Is it me or is the top and bottom "squeezed" in and not straight across? I'm talking about the bezel and not the actual screen itself.

The very bottom is a sound deflector for the hidden speakers.

Snake76 · 09-10-07, 02:46 AM

I'm very interested in the 69 series but it doesn't seem like anyone has any information on this set at this point in time.

borf · 09-10-07, 04:21 AM

It's should make everything look better.

bigjohns1997SS · 09-10-07, 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by borf

It's should make everything look better.

ROFL that is hilarious.

faisal · 09-10-07, 12:11 PM

i am sorry for such a general question but i am torn on which one to buy. i am looking for a 46" LCD. I do not do gaming. just movies and tv. But i am looking for a very good picture with excellent color and detail.

Can anyone out there recommend or give me there general thoughts?

curtmich · 09-10-07, 01:39 PM

I am drooling to see this new set. This is what I am waiting for. I don't want a glossy screen and I love Samsung products and it sounds like it will be in a decent cost range. I won't be ready to buy for a few months anyways. I am waiting to read more info on it. Hopefully they won't skimp on inputs though.

Admiral Ackbar · 09-10-07, 02:41 PM

Ahem, I believe I got the ball rolling on this TV

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=904605

We mine as well continue the discussion in here as there is no other new information in the thread I started either.

curtmich · 09-10-07, 08:57 PM

Anyone know of the time frame when these come out??

WaldorfSalad · 09-10-07, 11:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Admiral Ackbar

Ahem, I believe I got the ball rolling on this TV

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=904605

We mine as well continue the discussion in here as there is no other new information in the thread I started either.

You can send a message to the mods and ask them to merge your thread with this one or this one with your thread.

tombaker · 09-11-07, 04:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Admiral Ackbar

Ahem, I believe I got the ball rolling on this TV

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=904605

We mine as well continue the discussion in here as there is no other new information in the thread I started either.

Indeed you have the earlier time stamp....I really like the pictures of the 120hz effect....so if you don't mind I will ask for a merging

Nooby · 09-12-07, 05:34 AM

Has anyone gotten any updates on the 69?

westa6969 · 09-12-07, 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Nooby

Has anyone gotten any updates on the 69?

Isn't this the real 69 series - Jenna Jamison?

We don't want reflections competing with this on a 69 to 69 panel would we?

borf · 09-12-07, 06:36 AM

Haha my apologies to Kate B.

Underworld should look great.

borf · 09-12-07, 06:41 AM

And so should Jenna Jamison

tombaker · 09-12-07, 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nooby

Has anyone gotten any updates on the 69?

I am expecting it within 6 weeks time in stores. The are quoting a price difference to the current models.....which means its priced and ready.

It seriously is just a swap out of panels. As of yet I have not seen a 40 inch 71 series in stores which is curious.

wtfer · 09-13-07, 06:30 AM

I'm putting this on my to watch list.

Hopefully they'll fix the tripling effect on the 69F sets.

RocketFodder · 09-13-07, 11:35 AM

I was all set to buy a 71, and now I have to wait again

madPistolPete · 09-13-07, 02:24 PM

Me too. I was waiting on the 71/81/XBR4 before this. I was about to buy, and then this announcement comes out. But in the long run, it's a good thing. If it's the 71 with a Matte screen then I'm all over it! The thing I liked most about the xbr4 over the 71 was the reduced glare (I know it still has glare, but it's at least faded more). Now the 69 will be able to compete in this category. Back to waiting...

Goalier95 · 09-13-07, 02:34 PM

Good move Samsung!! Give us the availability dates soon! Sony XBR4 is calling my credit card, wonder if they'll release it before the holiday season?

RocketFodder · 09-13-07, 02:34 PM

I just wonder where these 4-6 week timeframes are coming from. I've never heard of a product being released that soon after announcement, but then I haven't followed TVs for very long. I guess that's bearable, but if it's more like 3+ months out, I'd rather just grab the 71. Needs more press releases with release dates.

madPistolPete · 09-13-07, 03:40 PM

I think the 4-6 weeks might be a guess based on the assumption that they are simply just switching out the panel from the 71, putting a matte panel on it, and stamping it with 69. I highly doubt that they would miss the holiday season on this tv. But everything at this point is speculation.

Snake76 · 09-13-07, 03:54 PM

There is so much waiting involved when looking to purchase a TV because every week a new model is released with features better suited to your specific liking. Who knows when this TV will come out but I'm sure by the time it is released (if ever), a new model will be announced and then it's back to waiting.

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Snake76 Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 48	There is so much waiting involved when looking to purchase a TV because every week a new model is released with features better suited to your specific liking. Who knows when this TV will come out but I'm sure by the time it is released (if ever), a new model will be announced and then it's back to waiting.

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reign80 Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 91	So the glossy screen is not good if the window is shining light toward the tv screen? Because that's how I have my room set up right now.

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curtmich Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 98	I am drooling to see this new set. This is what I am waiting for. I don't want a glossy screen and I love Samsung products and it sounds like it will be in a decent cost range. I won't be ready to buy for a few months anyways. I am waiting to read more info on it. Hopefully they won't skimp on inputs though.

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curtmich Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 98	Anyone know of the time frame when these come out??

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borf AVS Special Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 1,017	Haha my apologies to Kate B. Underworld should look great.

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borf AVS Special Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 1,017	And so should Jenna Jamison

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madPistolPete Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 26	Me too. I was waiting on the 71/81/XBR4 before this. I was about to buy, and then this announcement comes out. But in the long run, it's a good thing. If it's the 71 with a Matte screen then I'm all over it! The thing I liked most about the xbr4 over the 71 was the reduced glare (I know it still has glare, but it's at least faded more). Now the 69 will be able to compete in this category. Back to waiting...

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Goalier95 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 214	Good move Samsung!! Give us the availability dates soon! Sony XBR4 is calling my credit card, wonder if they'll release it before the holiday season?

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RocketFodder Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 25	I just wonder where these 4-6 week timeframes are coming from. I've never heard of a product being released that soon after announcement, but then I haven't followed TVs for very long. I guess that's bearable, but if it's more like 3+ months out, I'd rather just grab the 71. Needs more press releases with release dates.

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madPistolPete Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 26	I think the 4-6 weeks might be a guess based on the assumption that they are simply just switching out the panel from the 71, putting a matte panel on it, and stamping it with 69. I highly doubt that they would miss the holiday season on this tv. But everything at this point is speculation.