Yet another TV Recommendation Thread (For Gaming)

cross462 · 10-08-07, 10:17 PM

Hey guys, I have been scanning this board for a while now and read a lot of threads about various displays but still haven't pulled the trigger. I have went from considering Samsung DLP's to waiting for the new LED's, to a Sony LCD and finally considering plasma's.

I am a pretty big gamer and something I really cant stand is motion blur which is clearly abundant in my current Sharp LCD. So much so that I went back to using my old standard Sony CRT. I heard LCD's biggest problem is Motion Blur, Plasmas have burn-in and cant create good greys or accurate colors, and DLP sets have considerable lag. I have been hearing about these SED TV's but apparently that isnt going to happen anytime soon. I have even searched the worlds end for the legendary Sony KD-34XBR960 but apparently I am more then a little late in trying to find that set.

What I want to know is what currently is the best Display for gaming and what TV out now or coming our soon would you recommend. I'm looking to spend around $2,000, will also be using it for HD movies and screen size matters not. Any set recommendations you can give me would be great as I'm tired of looking and at this point I'm ready to send the girlfriend out to the store with $2500 and tell her dont come back without a TV.

Jigen · 10-08-07, 10:42 PM

Well just to get things rolling, I'm in a similar position as you, but luckily I have a decent Sony CRT HDTV (not any of the legendary ones, but adequate for the time being).

My last LCD I got (which was a bit over a year ago, I think) was a Samsung, and I couldn't stand the motion blur AND the image processing. The response time was supposed to be 8ms (or 4, I forget), but based on what I saw in Quake 3 (for PC), it was more like 35ms... The LCD I bought was even worse because it was actually like 10-bit color, and I could see the image processing / dithering effects as they happened and I ended up dumping the LCD for an older CRT.

Plasma is what I have my eyes set on, but I'm just waiting now (not sure when I want to jump). From what I've heard, there are some plasmas with great accurate colors, but I'm not sure about the greys. Plasma burnin is apparently less of an issue (or nearly a non-issue) on the high end sets (once again, from what I've heard).

I've heard the DLP lag stuff too. I hear very little people even consider a DLP for gaming, so I figure it must be true.

OLED TVs seem like they might be great, once they get up to partially acceptable sizes. I personally value image quality above size, but an 11 inch TV would be smaller than anything I've had for gaming for as long as I've been gaming (over 20 years).

Anyways, it might not be as much help to you as others advice, but I would go plasma today, if I were forced to, for certain.

cross462 · 10-09-07, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Jigen

Well just to get things rolling, I'm in a similar position as you, but luckily I have a decent Sony CRT HDTV (not any of the legendary ones, but adequate for the time being).

My last LCD I got (which was a bit over a year ago, I think) was a Samsung, and I couldn't stand the motion blur AND the image processing. The response time was supposed to be 8ms (or 4, I forget), but based on what I saw in Quake 3 (for PC), it was more like 35ms... The LCD I bought was even worse because it was actually like 10-bit color, and I could see the image processing / dithering effects as they happened and I ended up dumping the LCD for an older CRT.

Plasma is what I have my eyes set on, but I'm just waiting now (not sure when I want to jump). From what I've heard, there are some plasmas with great accurate colors, but I'm not sure about the greys. Plasma burnin is apparently less of an issue (or nearly a non-issue) on the high end sets (once again, from what I've heard).

I've heard the DLP lag stuff too. I hear very little people even consider a DLP for gaming, so I figure it must be true.

OLED TVs seem like they might be great, once they get up to partially acceptable sizes. I personally value image quality above size, but an 11 inch TV would be smaller than anything I've had for gaming for as long as I've been gaming (over 20 years).

Anyways, it might not be as much help to you as others advice, but I would go plasma today, if I were forced to, for certain.

Thanks for the Response, I have been leaning towards plasma myself.

Anyone else? Maybe I posted this in the wrong forum.

PENDRAG0ON · 10-09-07, 05:32 PM

I just got a Panasonic 42PX75 less than a week ago and I have played several games on it, but until I finish breaking in the plasma, I won't do a lot of gaming just yet, but I can say that Halo 3 looks amazing. I did a Ninja Gaiden Sigma blur test and it handled motion a bit better than a 1080p 120hz LCD (a 120hz 1080p lcd has a vertical motion resolution of 600 lines, I would guess that my plasma has around 650, also note that my plasma is a 1024:768 resolution display) (also note that these lcds cost nearly 3 times as much as my plasma) Image retention has been minimal (three hours of Halo 3 had minor IR but it washed away in about 15 seconds of a DVD movie)

I will play some PS3 tonight to see how it handles that (Some Resistance and a bit of NGS) and I might play some Wii in a day or two, but I try to watch a movie in between each gaming session to get rid of any IR and prevent burn in from happening so I havent gotten to play that much yet.

If you have any games that you want tested I might be able to give it a try and post some feedback.

This is a thread from a gaming forum that I have been updating and will have most of the info and pics that I have on my plasma so far, but it should give you an idea of how Plasma handles gaming.
http://liquidlurker.com/gpf/index.php?topic=3836.0

Update, I seem to be having some bad image retention after playing Resistance for about 40 minutes, and it is quite stuborn, which also has me worried about gaming in the future on my set.
Another update, it all went away, you can't even tell that I had IR anymore.

badmeng · 10-09-07, 09:20 PM

The 2007 Panasonic consumer plasmas produce a great picture for a great price. The Panasonics are very resistant to IR and Xbox360 and ps3 looks awesome, no blur, no ghosting. Just make sure you break them in properly the 1st 100 hours, full screen content, no letterbox movies/dvd's, no video games. I own the Panasonic 42px75 also. But with your budget stated I would get the new Pioneer Kuro sets (4280), they have the orbiter and the pioneer owners have reported no image retention at all with these sets out of the box. Check out the ratings on Cnet on them with their incredible black levels, great video processing and accurate colors. Good luck.

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cross462 New Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 6	Yet another TV Recommendation Thread (For Gaming) Hey guys, I have been scanning this board for a while now and read a lot of threads about various displays but still haven't pulled the trigger. I have went from considering Samsung DLP's to waiting for the new LED's, to a Sony LCD and finally considering plasma's. I am a pretty big gamer and something I really cant stand is motion blur which is clearly abundant in my current Sharp LCD. So much so that I went back to using my old standard Sony CRT. I heard LCD's biggest problem is Motion Blur, Plasmas have burn-in and cant create good greys or accurate colors, and DLP sets have considerable lag. I have been hearing about these SED TV's but apparently that isnt going to happen anytime soon. I have even searched the worlds end for the legendary Sony KD-34XBR960 but apparently I am more then a little late in trying to find that set. What I want to know is what currently is the best Display for gaming and what TV out now or coming our soon would you recommend. I'm looking to spend around $2,000, will also be using it for HD movies and screen size matters not. Any set recommendations you can give me would be great as I'm tired of looking and at this point I'm ready to send the girlfriend out to the store with $2500 and tell her dont come back without a TV.

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PENDRAG0ON AVS Special Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 2,032	I just got a Panasonic 42PX75 less than a week ago and I have played several games on it, but until I finish breaking in the plasma, I won't do a lot of gaming just yet, but I can say that Halo 3 looks amazing. I did a Ninja Gaiden Sigma blur test and it handled motion a bit better than a 1080p 120hz LCD (a 120hz 1080p lcd has a vertical motion resolution of 600 lines, I would guess that my plasma has around 650, also note that my plasma is a 1024:768 resolution display) (also note that these lcds cost nearly 3 times as much as my plasma) Image retention has been minimal (three hours of Halo 3 had minor IR but it washed away in about 15 seconds of a DVD movie) I will play some PS3 tonight to see how it handles that (Some Resistance and a bit of NGS) and I might play some Wii in a day or two, but I try to watch a movie in between each gaming session to get rid of any IR and prevent burn in from happening so I havent gotten to play that much yet. If you have any games that you want tested I might be able to give it a try and post some feedback. This is a thread from a gaming forum that I have been updating and will have most of the info and pics that I have on my plasma so far, but it should give you an idea of how Plasma handles gaming. http://liquidlurker.com/gpf/index.php?topic=3836.0 Update, I seem to be having some bad image retention after playing Resistance for about 40 minutes, and it is quite stuborn, which also has me worried about gaming in the future on my set. Another update, it all went away, you can't even tell that I had IR anymore. Last edited by PENDRAG0ON; 10-11-07 at 02:08 PM.. Reason: Added Information

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badmeng Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 343	The 2007 Panasonic consumer plasmas produce a great picture for a great price. The Panasonics are very resistant to IR and Xbox360 and ps3 looks awesome, no blur, no ghosting. Just make sure you break them in properly the 1st 100 hours, full screen content, no letterbox movies/dvd's, no video games. I own the Panasonic 42px75 also. But with your budget stated I would get the new Pioneer Kuro sets (4280), they have the orbiter and the pioneer owners have reported no image retention at all with these sets out of the box. Check out the ratings on Cnet on them with their incredible black levels, great video processing and accurate colors. Good luck.

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Jigen Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 44	Well just to get things rolling, I'm in a similar position as you, but luckily I have a decent Sony CRT HDTV (not any of the legendary ones, but adequate for the time being). My last LCD I got (which was a bit over a year ago, I think) was a Samsung, and I couldn't stand the motion blur AND the image processing. The response time was supposed to be 8ms (or 4, I forget), but based on what I saw in Quake 3 (for PC), it was more like 35ms... The LCD I bought was even worse because it was actually like 10-bit color, and I could see the image processing / dithering effects as they happened and I ended up dumping the LCD for an older CRT. Plasma is what I have my eyes set on, but I'm just waiting now (not sure when I want to jump). From what I've heard, there are some plasmas with great accurate colors, but I'm not sure about the greys. Plasma burnin is apparently less of an issue (or nearly a non-issue) on the high end sets (once again, from what I've heard). I've heard the DLP lag stuff too. I hear very little people even consider a DLP for gaming, so I figure it must be true. OLED TVs seem like they might be great, once they get up to partially acceptable sizes. I personally value image quality above size, but an 11 inch TV would be smaller than anything I've had for gaming for as long as I've been gaming (over 20 years). Anyways, it might not be as much help to you as others advice, but I would go plasma today, if I were forced to, for certain.