Mitsubishi May Bring Laser Televisions to Market in Late 2007

LT9000 · 10-13-07, 06:15 PM

SNIP

http://www.oled-display.info/arasor-...models-in-2007

“According to Arasor vice president, Scott Wilkie, Mitsubishi – the major company backing the technology – could launch laser TV models as early as Christmas this year in the US with Australia to launch 12 to 18 months later than the "important markets" like the US, in Mitsubishi's words.”

END SNIP

The web site where I got the article covers a lot of the new emerging display technologies:

http://www.oled-display.info/

elmalloc · 10-13-07, 09:52 PM

dooubt it though

Richard Paul · 10-13-07, 11:34 PM

Until Mitsubishi starts announcing details and dates for laser displays I would not place to much hope on such displays being released anytime soon.

chris5977 · 10-14-07, 12:24 AM

If these involves some type of RPTV, I doubt it will be popular. Everybody wants flat screens.

chris5977 · 10-14-07, 12:24 AM

If this involves some type of RPTV, I doubt it will be popular. Everybody wants flat screens.

Blackraven · 10-15-07, 09:07 AM

There are only 2-3 months left for year 2007.

I really doubt that Mitsubishi can release Laser TV this year.

undermined · 10-20-07, 08:38 PM

Yeah its RPTV but a "Laser" based on will be cheap to make since its less complex than using a UHP blub or LED ( no color-wheel, less lenses .etc) AND it will be alot thiner than current RPTV since you can aim lasers precisely at extreme angles with a small mirror as opposed to the size of the mirror in current RPTV so ramping up production could happen very quick. Its cheeper to make, uses less materials and is easier to build once the design is finalized. Ontop of that, Mitsubishi is a BIG player in RPTV and has been for a long time so if anyone has to chance of rolling out this tech and ramping it quick its them.

That said, nothing at CEDIA or CEATEC so CES in january seems the most likely place and time to launch new display tech. Q4-2007 maybe not but Q1-2008 is in the relm of possiblity.

mikemikeb · 10-21-07, 01:13 AM

You've also got to remember that laser TVs will use a lot less power than traditional DLP. I'm not sure if it'll beat LED DLP at power-saving, but it'll sure rival it. Finally, since it's cheaper to make, some of the savings can be passed onto the customer, or Mitsubishi could get greedy.

(Read onto the next paragraph if you don't care too much about multiple TV prices.) Right now, the Amazon cost of a Samsung 61" LED DLP is $1,900 ($2,600 MSRP). A traditional 61" Samsung DLP is $1,700 ($2,300 MSRP). A current 65" (they don't make sizes between 58 and 64") Mitsu DLP is $1,800 ($2200 MSRP).

Well, since Samsung priced their more power and noise-efficient LED TV higher than the color wheeled DLP, why won't Mitsu price their laser TV higher than their color wheeled one? I don't see a reason. So, here's a guess: $2,500 MSRP on a Mitsu 65" laser RPTV. When Amazon discounts it later in the product life, it'll be $1,900. It'll match or beat the current Samsung LED price, yet the consumer will be getting a bigger, possibly more power-efficient set. Meanwhile, Mitsubishi will be reeling in the profits.

Actually, there's one snag: It can't be called a "laser TV". Goodness, the average consumer will denotate "laser TV" for a laser pointer, a.k.a. If they watch a laser TV, it'll eventually burn their eyes out!

While that might not be the case, how's anybody going to convince Americans? Please. The Arasor or Mitsu marketing departments will have to come up with a better name than "laser [whatever]", but what?

bytor36 · 10-21-07, 02:41 AM

MikeMikeB - re: "LaserTV" snag
Hilarious man, but probably true - perhaps they should called something less "directional" like say: "LightSaberTV"

Folding At Home - Team 60148 - for a cure!

mikemikeb · 10-21-07, 05:10 AM

Not "LightSaberTV". For one, what do light sabers do? They are meant to destroy things. Light sabers coming from the TV? That still denotates a viewer getting hurt by it. Besides, Lucas would want $3,000 for every TV sold.

greenland · 10-21-07, 01:29 PM

Have they solved the nasty Video Noise Speckle Effect that Laser projection designs have been plagued with?

undermined · 10-22-07, 04:19 AM

I'll guess it will be called "coherent light DLP display" Or "improved DLP featuring _"coherent light" tech". That fact that the light source is laser based will be a known feature but the tag line wont be "laser tv". Just like fluorescent tube lights are not called "mercury-vapor tube" lights Im sure the marketing folks will spin it in a fun way

brunnock · 11-11-07, 08:37 PM

Quote:

Actually, there's one snag: It can't be called a "laser TV".

Why not? You've heard of laser printers?

mikemikeb · 11-12-07, 11:40 PM

But with printers, the lasers can't be seen by the person, just the indirect effects of them in the printed piece of paper. For all the average American knows, a laser TV would be directly (via a mirror) shining lasers right on them.

TMSKILZ · 11-13-07, 12:39 AM

Very intresting articles. i am very curious aboutthis new technology. i a looking to buy a newHDTV in 2008 & am waiting until after CES2008 to seewhat new HDTVs & Techs are shown/announed.

Valnar · 11-18-07, 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikemikeb

Actually, there's one snag: It can't be called a "laser TV". Goodness, the average consumer will denotate "laser TV" for a laser pointer, a.k.a. If they watch a laser TV, it'll eventually burn their eyes out!

I vote we jump straight to "phaser TV's". That puts them on the same playing field with the "plasma" TV's for a cool-sounding-technology-word.

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mikemikeb AVS Special Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: DC Area Posts: 1,834	Not "LightSaberTV". For one, what do light sabers do? They are meant to destroy things. Light sabers coming from the TV? That still denotates a viewer getting hurt by it. Besides, Lucas would want $3,000 for every TV sold.

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Richard Paul AVS Special Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 6,522	Until Mitsubishi starts announcing details and dates for laser displays I would not place to much hope on such displays being released anytime soon.

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Blackraven Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 258	There are only 2-3 months left for year 2007. I really doubt that Mitsubishi can release Laser TV this year.

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undermined Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 158	Yeah its RPTV but a "Laser" based on will be cheap to make since its less complex than using a UHP blub or LED ( no color-wheel, less lenses .etc) AND it will be alot thiner than current RPTV since you can aim lasers precisely at extreme angles with a small mirror as opposed to the size of the mirror in current RPTV so ramping up production could happen very quick. Its cheeper to make, uses less materials and is easier to build once the design is finalized. Ontop of that, Mitsubishi is a BIG player in RPTV and has been for a long time so if anyone has to chance of rolling out this tech and ramping it quick its them. That said, nothing at CEDIA or CEATEC so CES in january seems the most likely place and time to launch new display tech. Q4-2007 maybe not but Q1-2008 is in the relm of possiblity.

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mikemikeb AVS Special Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: DC Area Posts: 1,834	You've also got to remember that laser TVs will use a lot less power than traditional DLP. I'm not sure if it'll beat LED DLP at power-saving, but it'll sure rival it. Finally, since it's cheaper to make, some of the savings can be passed onto the customer, or Mitsubishi could get greedy. (Read onto the next paragraph if you don't care too much about multiple TV prices.) Right now, the Amazon cost of a Samsung 61" LED DLP is $1,900 ($2,600 MSRP). A traditional 61" Samsung DLP is $1,700 ($2,300 MSRP). A current 65" (they don't make sizes between 58 and 64") Mitsu DLP is $1,800 ($2200 MSRP). Well, since Samsung priced their more power and noise-efficient LED TV higher than the color wheeled DLP, why won't Mitsu price their laser TV higher than their color wheeled one? I don't see a reason. So, here's a guess: $2,500 MSRP on a Mitsu 65" laser RPTV. When Amazon discounts it later in the product life, it'll be $1,900. It'll match or beat the current Samsung LED price, yet the consumer will be getting a bigger, possibly more power-efficient set. Meanwhile, Mitsubishi will be reeling in the profits. Actually, there's one snag: It can't be called a "laser TV". Goodness, the average consumer will denotate "laser TV" for a laser pointer, a.k.a. If they watch a laser TV, it'll eventually burn their eyes out! While that might not be the case, how's anybody going to convince Americans? Please. The Arasor or Mitsu marketing departments will have to come up with a better name than "laser [whatever]", but what?

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bytor36 New Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 4	MikeMikeB - re: "LaserTV" snag Hilarious man, but probably true - perhaps they should called something less "directional" like say: "LightSaberTV" Folding At Home - Team 60148 - for a cure!

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greenland AVS Special Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 3,531	Have they solved the nasty Video Noise Speckle Effect that Laser projection designs have been plagued with?

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undermined Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 158	I'll guess it will be called "coherent light DLP display" Or "improved DLP featuring _"coherent light" tech". That fact that the light source is laser based will be a known feature but the tag line wont be "laser tv". Just like fluorescent tube lights are not called "mercury-vapor tube" lights Im sure the marketing folks will spin it in a fun way

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mikemikeb AVS Special Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: DC Area Posts: 1,834	But with printers, the lasers can't be seen by the person, just the indirect effects of them in the printed piece of paper. For all the average American knows, a laser TV would be directly (via a mirror) shining lasers right on them.