Official? Samsung xx74/84 pictures...

z.z · 10-19-07, 09:26 PM

post pix of your sam xx74/xx84

critic/suggest.. any/all comments welcomed!

my 5084, ill let the pix do the talking,

some desktop wallpapers

happy feet bluray - powerdvd/ati 2600xt

z.z · 10-19-07, 11:18 PM

planet earth bluray @ powerdvd/ati 2600xt

z.z · 10-19-07, 11:19 PM

lecxe · 10-19-07, 11:44 PM

Gorgeous detail. A few of the pics look too bright (for example the 1st Panda shot) but I'm sure you can dial that down.

I have the Sammy 5054 myself & have heard great things about the 5884.

z.z · 10-20-07, 01:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lecxe

Gorgeous detail. A few of the pics look too bright (for example the 1st Panda shot) but I'm sure you can dial that down.

I have the Sammy 5054 myself & have heard great things about the 5884.

the camera enhances the brightness a bit, this canon 950 is wacky, 10 pix of the same and all 10 look different

by the way the planet earth pictures above i noticed the bluish.. hence powerdvd was @ theater mod - i will retake all of the above pix again @ original mode just like the ones below,

z.z · 10-20-07, 01:41 AM

z.z · 10-20-07, 07:00 AM

ive updated post # 2 & 3, less bluish @ original mode but still too much @ camera

all shots taken @ auto/auto iso/flash @ off

the camera overbrightens, its bluish effecting and a lot of detail is lost, none of the pix come close to the actual pix on the 5084

yeh, i have yet to master the canon ds950is

anyways, if you guys want to continue, feel free.. post those beatifo pix of your xx74/84

see yahs..

creemail · 10-20-07, 10:08 AM

Wow Z.Z. these look really good. The blacks are very deep. Now I wish we could have the 5010 and 50PZ700U next to your 5084. However, great job!

Chris

D-Nice · 10-20-07, 11:22 AM

Excellent pictures z.z.

creemail here are some comparison shots from a Kuro. I still don't believe in comparison shots does by two different people and/or cameras. but....here they are:

Samsung 5084:

Pioneer Elite 110FD

Samsung 5084

Pioneer Elite 110FD

Samsung 5084

Pioneer Elite 110FD

Samsung 5084

Pioneer Elite 110FD

Samsung 5084

Pioneer Elite 110FD

D-Nice · 10-20-07, 11:22 AM

And two more:

Samsung 5084

Pioneer Elite 110FD

creemail · 10-20-07, 11:28 AM

Wow nice job D-Nice. This will be the thread that will answer all questions.

Big thanks to Z.Z and D-Nice of providing the pics!

Chris

lecxe · 10-20-07, 12:04 PM

D-Nice. The Pioneer looks great. Exceptional detail in those shots. Colors look natural. I wonder if the difference is due to the camera or the TV itself.

D-Nice · 10-20-07, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by lecxe

D-Nice. The Pioneer looks great. Exceptional detail in those shots. Colors look natural. I wonder if the difference is due to the camera or the TV itself.

The pictures were done by cybertec with my settings and his Nikon D200 with Nikon 17-55/ 2.8 lens

motoracer51 · 10-20-07, 06:47 PM

Wow, that Pioneer looks nice, but not 3-4x as nice, pricewise.

z.z · 10-20-07, 07:15 PM

D-nice's comparison, and thats why i posted those shots.. is not 5084 vs kuro

its my canon ds950is vs cybertec's nikon d200

all that bluish which should be grayish and wherever the camera overbrightens all that detail is gone

same camera @ kuro vs sam and you'll all be surprised how close..

teevman · 10-20-07, 07:29 PM

the green's are much more natural looking in the pioneer shots

z.z · 10-20-07, 08:54 PM

print screen vs my canon 950

z.z · 10-20-07, 08:55 PM

SpeedDemon · 10-20-07, 08:59 PM

How close do you feel ZZ that the 5084 comes to replicating the "print screens" in real life with the lights off?

ZZ could you describe the black levels on the 5084 when watching with the lights off? Do the blacks actually look and feel like a deep dark inky black?

Thanks!

D-Nice · 10-20-07, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by z.z

Wow. You need to get that camera in check because I'm seeing more than just a blue tint. It looks as if your primary/secondary colors, gamma, and grayscale are skewed big time.

creemail · 10-21-07, 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpeedDemon

How close do you feel ZZ that the 5084 comes to replicating the "print screens" in real life with the lights off?

ZZ could you describe the black levels on the 5084 when watching with the lights off? Do the blacks actually look and feel like a deep dark inky black?

Thanks!

Hey ZZ I want to reiterate the same question as SpeedDemon.

Thanks,
Chris

teevman · 10-21-07, 03:34 PM

zz, what do you mean by print screen vs caon 980, what exactly is print screen, the print screen pics are much much better, very nice.

SpeedDemon · 10-21-07, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by creemail

Hey ZZ I want to reiterate the same question as SpeedDemon.

Thanks,
Chris

I loooked at the 5084 today at Magnolia with controlled lighting and I have to say that I think that Panny 50pz700u looks much better than it. The Panny definitely has better black levels and the Sammy didn't seem to reproduce colors quite as well out of the box, but I assume that this could be fixed with the advanced color controls. I don't think that I would buy either of the TVs though after comparing them to the Pioneer Kuros that I saw, the black levels on the Sammy and Panny 1080p sets don't even look as good as their 720p counterparts.

I just need to decide at this point if I should jump on the pio 6010 or get the 5080 and wait 1-2 more generations and buy another set then.

Quote:

Originally Posted by teevman

zz, what do you mean by print screen vs caon 980, what exactly is print screen, the print screen pics are much much better, very nice.

A print screen is when you use a blu-ray drive in a computer and capture that actual digital 1080p output untouched and unprocessed. Those print screens are the closest replication to what the content should actually look like but it is transfered to a JPEG. If you had a calibrated computer monitor the print screens would basically show you the picture exactly as the director intended for you to see them. Basically they make for a great reference to the shots taken with a digital camera, but only if the shots with the digital camera are close to accurate which ZZ's are not.

DedicatedHT · 10-21-07, 09:45 PM

WOW which tv are you saying looks like the print screens the sammy or the Pioneer Elite 110FD

i'm a little slow with the lingo but those pics are impressive

z.z · 10-22-07, 04:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpeedDemon

How close do you feel ZZ that the 5084 comes to replicating the "print screens" in real life with the lights off?

ZZ could you describe the black levels on the 5084 when watching with the lights off? Do the blacks actually look and feel like a deep dark inky black?

Thanks!

the way i see the print screens on my 5084 its an exact match

lol @ 'deep dark inky black'

uhh even the kuros dont do that kinda sexy black but the kuros are the closest to that

if theres a tv out there that does absolute pure black, let it be known

z.z · 10-22-07, 04:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by D-Nice

Wow. You need to get that camera in check because I'm seeing more than just a blue tint. It looks as if your primary/secondary colors, gamma, and grayscale are skewed big time.

i went through the manual settings, all pix not just of the tv come out w/ that blue tint, @ accent color mode much less blue tint better grays but all the other colors go out the window, i lowered gamma it comes out darker/more 'colorful' still blue tinting

i just about gave up on this camera, i understand this aint no dslr or pro camera but i expected better pictures, then again probably just me

z.z · 10-22-07, 05:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by teevman

zz, what do you mean by print screen vs caon 980, what exactly is print screen, the print screen pics are much much better, very nice.

Prt Sc key @ keyboard

unfortunately print screen takes the pix @ video output not @ tv

but the way i see the prints on my display theyre an exact match, the way you see'em on your display depends on your display

would be cool if you can plug in an usb drive into the tv and actually take an exact pic of what the tv displays, but i dont know how that would go with holywood though, most likely they would call that "illegal"

z.z · 10-22-07, 05:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpeedDemon

I just need to decide at this point if I should jump on the pio 6010 or get the 5080 and wait 1-2 more generations and buy another set then.

personally, the 6010 is the one id go for and i may just go for it in a few months

z.z · 10-22-07, 05:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DedicatedHT

WOW which tv are you saying looks like the print screens the sammy or the Pioneer Elite 110FD

i'm a little slow with the lingo but those pics are impressive

lol i posted the print screens vs camera so you guys can see the difference between what i see on my 5084 and what my pos camera shows

z.z · 10-22-07, 06:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by creemail

Wow Z.Z. these look really good. The blacks are very deep. Now I wish we could have the 5010 and 50PZ700U next to your 5084. However, great job!

Chris

lol that would be torture since i got the 5084 and the 5010s blacks poop on the 700U/5084

i wish camera pix could be more accurate

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lecxe Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 28	Gorgeous detail. A few of the pics look too bright (for example the 1st Panda shot) but I'm sure you can dial that down. I have the Sammy 5054 myself & have heard great things about the 5884.

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z.z Member Thread Starter Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 100	ive updated post # 2 & 3, less bluish @ original mode but still too much @ camera all shots taken @ auto/auto iso/flash @ off the camera overbrightens, its bluish effecting and a lot of detail is lost, none of the pix come close to the actual pix on the 5084 yeh, i have yet to master the canon ds950is anyways, if you guys want to continue, feel free.. post those beatifo pix of your xx74/84 see yahs..

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creemail AVisionarist! Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 5,087	Wow Z.Z. these look really good. The blacks are very deep. Now I wish we could have the 5010 and 50PZ700U next to your 5084. However, great job! Chris

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creemail AVisionarist! Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 5,087	Wow nice job D-Nice. This will be the thread that will answer all questions. Big thanks to Z.Z and D-Nice of providing the pics! Chris

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lecxe Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 28	D-Nice. The Pioneer looks great. Exceptional detail in those shots. Colors look natural. I wonder if the difference is due to the camera or the TV itself.

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motoracer51 Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 130	Wow, that Pioneer looks nice, but not 3-4x as nice, pricewise.

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z.z Member Thread Starter Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 100	D-nice's comparison, and thats why i posted those shots.. is not 5084 vs kuro its my canon ds950is vs cybertec's nikon d200 all that bluish which should be grayish and wherever the camera overbrightens all that detail is gone same camera @ kuro vs sam and you'll all be surprised how close..

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teevman Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 198	the green's are much more natural looking in the pioneer shots

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z.z Member Thread Starter Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 100	print screen vs my canon 950

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SpeedDemon Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Washington Posts: 304	How close do you feel ZZ that the 5084 comes to replicating the "print screens" in real life with the lights off? ZZ could you describe the black levels on the 5084 when watching with the lights off? Do the blacks actually look and feel like a deep dark inky black? Thanks!

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teevman Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 198	zz, what do you mean by print screen vs caon 980, what exactly is print screen, the print screen pics are much much better, very nice.

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DedicatedHT Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 252	WOW which tv are you saying looks like the print screens the sammy or the Pioneer Elite 110FD i'm a little slow with the lingo but those pics are impressive