Spiderman Trilogy Blu-ray PIX + Reviews

Xylon · 10-26-07, 07:28 PM

The source discs came from the Australian version I received a month ago. The encoding and transfer is the same everywhere including the US version.

Like the Matrix Trilogy HD DVD release you don't have a choice selecting which movie to get. You have to spend extra for something you have no intention of watching again even if its in HD. To early adopters - meaning YOU - this is not a significant deterrent. This is the flagship release from Blu-ray and expectations are high regarding PQ and AQ. Based on the recent PQ performance of top tier BD release there is no reason this will disappoint. AQ are reference quality and demo worthy with SM just a tad lower. The other just have a little more bass and more active surrounds. But overall excellent quality.

About the PQ overall? Lets just say 2 out 3 of aint bad

You have probably guessed which part of the trilogy I'm talking about. The other two (SM2 and SM3) PQ are top notch solid upper TIER 1 without a doubt. Sharp and detailed. Just for this two its well worth it. Now with that out of the way . . . .

. . . . Spiderman 1. What the h*** happened here? Yes, there is bit of extra detail over the Superbit DVD edition but other than that the overall PQ is dull, flat and is some parts - especially dark scenes - the PQ is almost identical to DVD. I may be too harsh to this title but compared to the other movies, the inferior PQ is jarring to say the least. I have HD broadcast -720p and 1080i somewhere I think (Hopefully I did not delete it) so maybe in the future I will post it too here for comparison. But for now we have:

Superbit DVD editions - except SM3 - wait till next week then I will post it.
Spiderman - 30.60 GB AVC
Spiderman 2 - 46.30 GB AVC - Including the extra scenes for 2.1 version.
Spiderman 3 - 37.5 GB AVC

Xylon · 10-26-07, 07:29 PM

Spiderman 1

Xylon · 10-26-07, 07:29 PM

Spiderman 2

Xylon · 10-26-07, 07:29 PM

Spiderman 3

shiznit · 10-26-07, 07:51 PM

looking good!

Donnie Eldridge · 10-26-07, 07:54 PM

Nice to grain.

rlindo · 10-26-07, 09:55 PM

Wow that spiderman1 comparo is pretty bad since as you stated, there isn't much extra detail. Spidey 2 seems to be quite the improvement so that is good and that cap from 3 looks fantastic.

I am excited about getting these movies in HD.

BTW xylon you're the man.

Rieper · 10-26-07, 10:05 PM

'Scary Movie' on Blu-ray blows all those screencaps outta the water.

That's pretty sad...

JaylisJayP · 10-26-07, 10:13 PM

wow...is something lost through these photos? These shots all look horrible.

Xylon · 10-26-07, 10:15 PM

Patience guys. It will get better especially the last two Spidey movies. I can't promise the same for Spidey 1

Kram Sacul · 10-26-07, 11:25 PM

Going by the HD broadcast I saw Spider-man 1 is kind of inconsistent. Some scenes are kind of grainy/noisy but there are others that are really quite nice.

SM2 and 3 are of course ultra sharp being sourced from 4k DIs. That shot of Peter on the bike is as detailed as HD gets.

Scary Movie looks better? Wow.

iceperson · 10-26-07, 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JaylisJayP

wow...is something lost through these photos? These shots all look horrible.

Are you scrolling to the right to see the BD screens? While the first one isn't a huge difference it is clearly better. Look at the pores on Peter's face and MJs teeth and you'll see a lot more detail. The SM2 screens are night and day different. For some reason I can't see the SM3 BD screen. Perhaps xylon could put a carraige return in between his shots or something?

Lutter · 10-27-07, 12:27 AM

I've got a feeling that Spider-man is going to be of the best quality you are EVER going get out of the original source elements. Something tells me from both seeing the film in the theaters and on DVD that there were some deliberate choices made in the cinematography of that film that lends to a flat look.... It's just never been a reference movie for cinematography.

That said I can clearly see more detail in the faces and clothing in your images... I'm sure at the very least those of us with front projection systems will see a leap in performance.

That said, Spider-man 2 looks AMAZING.

invadergir · 10-27-07, 12:46 AM

Well my Box Set is on order form Amazon, but Spider-Man 1 does look kind of disappointing quality wise. The difference between the dvd and Blu-ray version for the 2nd movie is amazing. Colour and clarity are trully leaps and bounds above the dvd. The 3rd movie looks great too but i would love to see the difference in screenshots from both dvd and Blu-ray

joerod · 10-27-07, 02:34 AM

Just can't wait for our Spidey marathon!!! In HD!!!

Paultje66 · 10-27-07, 02:42 AM

Spiderman - 30.60 GB AVC
Spiderman 2 - 46.30 GB AVC - Including the extra scenes for 2.1 version.
Spiderman 3 - 37.5 GB AVC.
Size is only the main movie or the whole disc?
Thanxxx for the pics

kschmit2 · 10-27-07, 03:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paultje66

Spiderman - 30.60 GB AVC
Spiderman 2 - 46.30 GB AVC - Including the extra scenes for 2.1 version.
Spiderman 3 - 37.5 GB AVC.
Size is only the main movie or the whole disc?
Thanxxx for the pics

Spider-Man 2 (theatrical) is roughly 34.7 GB
Spider-Man 2.1 (extended version of Spider-Man 2) is roughly 36.8 GB
You have to keep in mind that there are different playlists using different files on the disc for the respective versions. You can't just add all of them, as there are about 7 GB of redundant scenes on the disc.

Xylon · 10-27-07, 06:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kschmit2

Spider-Man 2 (theatrical) is roughly 34.7 GB
Spider-Man 2.1 (extended version of Spider-Man 2) is roughly 36.8 GB
You have to keep in mind that there are different playlists using different files on the disc for the respective versions. You can't just add all of them, as there are about 7 GB of redundant scenes on the disc.

The figures you mentioned are more accurate than the one I did regarding the movie file itself.

lgans316 · 10-27-07, 06:37 AM

I don't think that SPHE can do much on improving SM1 transfer. It might lead to EE which is unacceptable on HDM that too on blockbuster titles.

Xylon · 10-27-07, 02:34 PM

Spiderman 1

Xylon · 10-27-07, 02:34 PM

Spiderman 2

Xylon · 10-27-07, 02:35 PM

Spiderman 3

Kram Sacul · 10-27-07, 02:48 PM

Yeah, the night photography in SM1 is pretty grainy. The Sam Raimi commentary even mentions the difficulty of shooting that particular scene. They basically had to push and pull it to get it to match because the lighting was changing.

SM2 looks like a MASSIVE improvement over the dvd. I'm kind of curious why the colors are so different though. I guess the dvd wasn't very accurate for some reason.

vassili · 10-27-07, 03:59 PM

what's up with those huge ugly ratings graphic ruining the cover art like that? is that standard in australia? is it a removable sticker? christ, i purposely buy american edition DVDs (back when i bought DVDs) just so i didn't have to look at the ugly french the canadian gov't made the studios put on the cover along side the english.

dildatonr · 10-27-07, 05:33 PM

Xylon = AVS MVP

Thanks once again for your time and effort my good man.

skoolpsyk · 10-28-07, 12:43 AM

dvdfile.com did a review of the trilogy on blu-ray and said:

"My biggest and most pleasing surprise was to discover that the first film had, in my opinion, the best image quality of the three; it was utterly film-like with lots of image depth. The color saturation and clean, artifact-free images of all three films are mesmerizing. But for me, the picture presentation of the first film was a cut above. I found this intriguing not only because the first film is my favorite of the series, but also because the first film always had a murky, muddy appearance on standard-definition DVD (the second film’s DVD presentation looks better)."

Dave Mack · 10-28-07, 01:03 AM

hmmm....

(and Xylon, as always, you da' man!)

Denner · 10-28-07, 02:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skoolpsyk

dvdfile.com did a review of the trilogy on blu-ray and said:

"My biggest and most pleasing surprise was to discover that the first film had, in my opinion, the best image quality of the three; it was utterly film-like with lots of image depth. The color saturation and clean, artifact-free images of all three films are mesmerizing. But for me, the picture presentation of the first film was a cut above. I found this intriguing not only because the first film is my favorite of the series, but also because the first film always had a murky, muddy appearance on standard-definition DVD (the second film’s DVD presentation looks better)."

Never trust a dvd reviewer, when it comes to HD, trust your own eyes or even better trust Xylon's PIX

Scott Simonian · 10-28-07, 02:35 AM

Quote:

Never trust a dvd reviewer, when it comes to HD, trust your own eyes or even better trust Xylon's PIX

Uh, totally! Ever since the whole PotC thing I will NEVER trust a review on audio/video ever again. Apparently, everyone that reviewed the movie was busy making dinner or something. How could you miss heads being chopped off like that?

Oh, sorry about the thread fart...I just cant trust reviews anymore. Xylon's pics are much better than some subjective review...from anywhere.

thezone79 · 10-28-07, 03:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott Simonian

Uh, totally! Ever since the whole PotC thing I will NEVER trust a review on audio/video ever again. Apparently, everyone that reviewed the movie was busy making dinner or something. How could you miss heads being chopped off like that?

Oh, sorry about the thread fart...I just cant trust reviews anymore. Xylon's pics are much better than some subjective review...from anywhere.

Honestly, I can see how the reviewer missed it. It wasn't until it was pointed out (well after its release) that people had a problem with it. Plus the picture quality and audio are still top notch. yes, Disney should fix it, but just about every else about that title was very well done.

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Xylon * Non Member AVS CLUB MEMBER** Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Liecheinstein Posts: 6,978	*Spiderman Trilogy Blu-ray PIX* + Reviews** The source discs came from the Australian version I received a month ago. The encoding and transfer is the same everywhere including the US version. Like the Matrix Trilogy HD DVD release you don't have a choice selecting which movie to get. You have to spend extra for something you have no intention of watching again even if its in HD. To early adopters - meaning YOU - this is not a significant deterrent. This is the flagship release from Blu-ray and expectations are high regarding PQ and AQ. Based on the recent PQ performance of top tier BD release there is no reason this will disappoint. AQ are reference quality and demo worthy with SM just a tad lower. The other just have a little more bass and more active surrounds. But overall excellent quality. About the PQ overall? Lets just say 2 out 3 of aint bad You have probably guessed which part of the trilogy I'm talking about. The other two (SM2 and SM3) PQ are top notch solid upper TIER 1 without a doubt. Sharp and detailed. *Just for this two its well worth it.* Now with that out of the way . . . . . . . . Spiderman 1. What the h*** happened here? Yes, there is bit of extra detail over the Superbit DVD edition but other than that the overall PQ is dull, flat and is some parts - especially dark scenes - the PQ is almost identical to DVD. I may be too harsh to this title but compared to the other movies, the inferior PQ is jarring to say the least. I have HD broadcast -720p and 1080i somewhere I think (Hopefully I did not delete it) so maybe in the future I will post it too here for comparison. But for now we have: Superbit DVD editions - except SM3 - wait till next week then I will post it. Spiderman - 30.60 GB AVC Spiderman 2 - 46.30 GB AVC - Including the extra scenes for 2.1 version. Spiderman 3 - 37.5 GB AVC __________________ Project: Tandem 2.0 HTPC Worklog Project: Tandem 1.0 HTPC Worklog Last edited by Xylon; 04-13-10 at 03:50 AM..

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rlindo office monkey Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: ON, Canada Posts: 4,351	Wow that spiderman1 comparo is pretty bad since as you stated, there isn't much extra detail. Spidey 2 seems to be quite the improvement so that is good and that cap from 3 looks fantastic. I am excited about getting these movies in HD. BTW xylon you're the man. __________________ ROB

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Xylon * Non Member Thread Starter AVS CLUB MEMBER** Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Liecheinstein Posts: 6,978	Patience guys. It will get better especially the last two Spidey movies. I can't promise the same for Spidey 1 __________________ Project: Tandem 2.0 HTPC Worklog Project: Tandem 1.0 HTPC Worklog

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Kram Sacul Screenshot Scientist Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 5,027	Going by the HD broadcast I saw Spider-man 1 is kind of inconsistent. Some scenes are kind of grainy/noisy but there are others that are really quite nice. SM2 and 3 are of course ultra sharp being sourced from 4k DIs. That shot of Peter on the bike is as detailed as HD gets. Scary Movie looks better? Wow.

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Lutter New Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 14	I've got a feeling that Spider-man is going to be of the best quality you are EVER going get out of the original source elements. Something tells me from both seeing the film in the theaters and on DVD that there were some deliberate choices made in the cinematography of that film that lends to a flat look.... It's just never been a reference movie for cinematography. That said I can clearly see more detail in the faces and clothing in your images... I'm sure at the very least those of us with front projection systems will see a leap in performance. That said, Spider-man 2 looks AMAZING. Last edited by Lutter; 10-27-07 at 12:34 AM..

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invadergir Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 461	Well my Box Set is on order form Amazon, but Spider-Man 1 does look kind of disappointing quality wise. The difference between the dvd and Blu-ray version for the 2nd movie is amazing. Colour and clarity are trully leaps and bounds above the dvd. The 3rd movie looks great too but i would love to see the difference in screenshots from both dvd and Blu-ray __________________ Supporting both HD-DVD and Blu-ray My DVD Collection

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joerod End User Clinician AVS GOLD CLUB MEMBER Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: MIDWEST (just outside Chicago) Posts: 18,912	Just can't wait for our Spidey marathon!!! In HD!!!

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Kram Sacul Screenshot Scientist Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 5,027	Yeah, the night photography in SM1 is pretty grainy. The Sam Raimi commentary even mentions the difficulty of shooting that particular scene. They basically had to push and pull it to get it to match because the lighting was changing. SM2 looks like a MASSIVE improvement over the dvd. I'm kind of curious why the colors are so different though. I guess the dvd wasn't very accurate for some reason.

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skoolpsyk Advanced Member Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Juniper Hills, CA, USA Posts: 645	dvdfile.com did a review of the trilogy on blu-ray and said: "My biggest and most pleasing surprise was to discover that the first film had, in my opinion, the best image quality of the three; it was utterly film-like with lots of image depth. The color saturation and clean, artifact-free images of all three films are mesmerizing. But for me, the picture presentation of the first film was a cut above. I found this intriguing not only because the first film is my favorite of the series, but also because the first film always had a murky, muddy appearance on standard-definition DVD (the second film’s DVD presentation looks better)."

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Spiderman Trilogy Blu-ray *PIX* + Reviews

Spiderman Trilogy Blu-ray PIX + Reviews