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post #61 of 96 Old 10-05-2013, 06:54 PM
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Magnavox HDD and DVD Recorder with Digital Tuner - Models MDR-533/535/537

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Still looking for an OTA no-monthly cost solution... Help? 

freetvEE already answered you a week ago.
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None have software/UI anywhere near as good as TIVO or WMC, but these devices handle OTA with no monthly fee or "lifetime-of-the-hardware" fee.
channelmaster 7000.
channelmaster 7400.
channelmaster k77.
HD Home-Run
"PHD-VRX" (you gotta add an external drive to get the DVR functionality) .
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FWIW, a lifetime-equipped used TiVo from eBay is another option. $300 for a Series 3 / TivoHD with a 1TB HDD. (2 tuners, 150 Hrs HD recording). The Series 3 is seven-year old hardware. TiVo still does the guide programing updates, but not the software. I'm using a lifetime TiVo HD- and prefer it to the HTPC / WMC / HomeRun HD I was using before.

I am saving the pennies for a lifetime-TiVo Roamio and 2TB HDD. $800.00.
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I just got a Simple off Woot for $100 w/lifetime premium. I plan to use it to record unique episodes of current programming for playback on the Rokus. Seems like an inexpensive alternative. I'll review it on the blog in my sig. With SiliconDust helping Simple with a v2, there is hope that I have snagged a gem.
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I love my simple.tv DVR. Considering that Premier service is licensed per viewer rather than per device, this is a very inexpensive alternative to Tivo...

http://thebeersoncomcast.wordpress.com/2013/10/20/simple-tv/
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I've not read posts on this thread, but want to mention that Amazon has a little ATSC digital converter box called HomeWorx HW-150PVR that has HDMI out and has 'cable loop through'. I have gone through two cable boxes that I bought on ebay for my projector, but neither had the HDMI out and this little box records also (though you cannot watch one station and record another). The unit is very basic and has a really funky remote control (not a very good interface, but works fine), but is only like $45 (free shipping with Prime acct). Oh, I should mention that while it does not have a hard drive, it does have a USB port to which you attach a flash drive. Pretty convenient really. It picks up all the stations offered in Indianapolis, IN area.
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I am considering something like this, too. Is there anything else new on the horizon or should I just buy a Simple TV? Would any of these work better with SlingBox than others?
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There's a lot of info on this question over here:

 

http://www.avsforum.com/f/42/hdtv-recorders


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Just revisited this thread for the first time in about 8 months and thought I'd give my update (since I started the thread...)

I tried the Magnavox DVD recorder that was mentioned, and I ended up returning it 2 days later to Walmart. Maybe I got the wrong one, but it couldn't record HD which was a deal breaker.

In the end, we just decided to get the TiVo Roamio with the monthly fee. I love it. No hassle. 4 tuners. HD, with channel guide. I never found a good fee-free solution that did everything I wanted. Maybe someday Google or someone else will make a box I can buy off the shelf that does basic HD DVR without a monthly fee... Until then, TiVo is great.
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Tried it. It can receive HD signals, but won't record it to the DVD.
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I've not read posts on this thread, but want to mention that Amazon has a little ATSC digital converter box called HomeWorx HW-150PVR that has HDMI out and has 'cable loop through'. I have gone through two cable boxes that I bought on ebay for my projector, but neither had the HDMI out and this little box records also (though you cannot watch one station and record another). The unit is very basic and has a really funky remote control (not a very good interface, but works fine), but is only like $45 (free shipping with Prime acct). Oh, I should mention that while it does not have a hard drive, it does have a USB port to which you attach a flash drive. Pretty convenient really. It picks up all the stations offered in Indianapolis, IN area.

 

+1 for HomeWorx HW-150PVR.

 

Thank you Charlie.  So awesome.  I'm in the Toronto, Ontario area and saw this post and immediately went out to BestBuy and price matched with NCIX to get this for $42 CAD. Tried it for a couple days and works like a charm as an OTA PVR.  And as a bonus, it even picks up an extra channel (CHCH) that my TV's built-in digital tuner doesn't get. 

 

I like that you use your own flash drive so you can watch what you record on other devices too.  Mine is version 14 so no firmware update was needed and everything works great.  Thanks again! :)

 

Note there's also another similar device on Amazon - the iView 3500STB which I almost got 'cause it's even cheaper and has a QAM Tuner (although some say doesn't work) but it seems the DVR software is buggy and there is no support.  So I went with the HomeWorx and couldn't be happier.

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Can't use the Homeworx in Thunder Bay. 3 OTA channels and Shaw cable scrambles all channels. Not much use in these parts unfortunately...
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how do I do that?

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Channelmaster 7000PAL

My personal favorite is the ChannelMaster 7000PAL. I would describe it as not perfect, but good enough. It has two tuners and built-in 320GB hard drive. You can replace the hard drive with something bigger. (This voids the warranty, but the machine hasn't been built in years -- the warranty is long gone!) You can record on two channels while watching a recording. It remembers up to an hour of the current channel, allowing you to rewind, fast forward, pause, or slo-mo. If you decide the program you're watching is a keeper, you can record the entire show, including the part you've already seen. It has an onscreen program guide you can use to schedule recordings, and recordings can be one-time, daily, weekly, or Mon-Fri. There is also a program search feature -- if a program you like will be on in less than two weeks, the machine will find it. and let you schedule a recording. No monthly fees -- just buy the machine, plug it in, and hook it up just like a vcr.

However it does not record satellite or cable channels. You cannot offload programs to your computer or smartphone.

The machine is not made anymore, but you can find a good used one on Ebay for about $150.
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Channelmaster DVR+1

Just purchased one and picture look great from all stations with sensitive tuner compared to Dish HD DVR OTA tuner. Been having issues though with downloading program guide. Only getting 12-24 hours of guide info from local stations. Emailed customer support at Channelmaster and they are trying to help me get the guide info worked out. Remote a bit hard to navigate - been spoiled by Dish remote. Wish it could record one more channel at the same time since all the local stations put their network news on at at 6:30 PM.
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Remote a bit hard to navigate - been spoiled by Dish remote
Does anyone make a decent remote for PVRs? I find the Humax pretty illogical as well. Is it just a case of having to buy a programmable remote?
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History Channel? Oh, you mean the Pawn Stars Channel. Why they don't just change the name to that I'll never know. Which brings up back to the Ronald Reagan quote.
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DVR+ One Year Later

I have been excited about the DVR+ since late 2012. I had inquired of EchoStar if they would consider reentering the OTA market and Shelley O'Connell replied that they talk about it every day. Six months later, a device was going through the FCC process and in December of 2013, I had one in my hands. That one would be a gift to my internetless in-laws, but I was very impressed. Over the summer, two of my DTVPal DVRs started acting up, so I purchased three DVR+ DVRs on Black Friday. I am so happy.

A lot of people speculated that the $175 price was a sell-off in advance of a new model. Channel Master has denied this and, in fact, announced a MAJOR FREE upgrade for these DVRs. In the first quarter, the DVR will get an upgrade that enables something called Linear OTT. Linear OTT puts streamed 'channels' in the guide. While On-Demand has it's place, those of us who like to fall asleep to TV will enjoy linear programming. This is in addition to streamed apps like Vudu, Pandora, and YouTube.

This is THE box that ought to be on every cord cutter's television. If you have questions, please feel free to ask. I'll answer to the best of my ability.
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DVR for Antenna

I have seen this before but recently unable to locate it. I am not concerned about "cheap" or "low price". I just want a DVR for OTA Broadcast. Frustrating...
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I have been using a quad-tuner Tablo DVR since last summer and really like it. It is extremely simple to set up and use and is rock-solid stable. I've had zero problems with it. It works great with my Roku boxes, but also works well on my tablets and PCs. It even works well on my phones and other devices via a Plex channel. The lifetime program guide subscription is $150 and is the lifetime of the account, not the device. You can buy as many devices as you want without having to pay again, which makes it a much better deal than TiVo.

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I've been considering cutting the cable for some time... I just never could find a good dependable home DVR that didn't come with its own subscription. Looks like a few new options are on the market... it may be time to take the plunge.
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The lifetime program guide subscription is $150 and is the lifetime of the account, not the device. You can buy as many devices as you want without having to pay again, which makes it a much better deal than TiVo.
I wonder if they provide subs for Canadian TV listings ?

If anyone knows of PVR that does provide Canadian listings please update.
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Tablo is a Canadian product, sold in the Canadian market and they do have Canadian guide service.
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I have been excited about the DVR+ since late 2012.

A lot of people speculated that the $175 price was a sell-off in advance of a new model. Channel Master has denied this and, in fact, announced a MAJOR FREE upgrade for these DVRs. In the first quarter, the DVR will get an upgrade that enables something called Linear OTT. Linear OTT puts streamed 'channels' in the guide. While On-Demand has it's place, those of us who like to fall asleep to TV will enjoy linear programming. This is in addition to streamed apps like Vudu, Pandora, and YouTube.

This is THE box that ought to be on every cord cutter's television. If you have questions, please feel free to ask. I'll answer to the best of my ability.
This Channelmaster seems like a perfect replacement to a VCR for OTA, I currently use a VCR & STB for the little recording I do..

The bad thing about this is that it's not available via any retailer, & apparently only an online purchase. (Which I no longer do).

I personally don't need 'guide' services & would just like the option to manually program on & off time.

$175?? I thought these were more like in the $299 range?
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This is THE box that ought to be on every cord cutter's television. If you have questions, please feel free to ask. I'll answer to the best of my ability.
Based on my research, I agree if you are looking for a single TV solution. The simplicity alone makes it a gem and the value proposition is truly outstanding. The main reason I did not go that route is that I needed television on multiple screens around the house, already had a Roku in every room, was already using Plex Media Server and already had very good network infrastructure in my home. Tablo was a very natural fit for me and I am extremely happy with it. The flexibility is outstanding. I love being able to access my DVR from anywhere in the house and from all of our many mobile devices outside of the house. It is more costly, however.

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HJ, I own seven Simple DVRs and toyed with the idea of sampling the Tablo. Both suffer some similar problems -- cost, tuner management, and library management. The cost of a dual tuner tablo with lifetime subscription, a 1t disk, and a Roku is about $480. The cost for a dual tuner DVR+ with 1t usb disk is $300 -- more than 50% more for the tablo. That gives one tuner for recording and a second for watching live tv.

If you want to go with a two television setup, the DVR+ cost doubles to $600. If you want to add another tv to the tablo setup, you could add another roku, another tablo, and another disk raising the price to $780. This is the most comparable upgrade and it still rings up at 30% more. You could go with a four tuner tablo with a 2t disk, lifetime, and a pair of Rokus for $710. I would caution, though, that failure of one disk or DVR and you are 100% out of business.

In my experience, the time required to change channels on a whole house DVR is noticeably longer than on the DVR+. Sometimes, the tuner would time out and require a second try. This is with the Simple DVR, mind you, so YMMV with tablo.

I have found it very simple to download and convert files recorded on my DVR+ for playback via my Plex server. The quality is much better than doing the same with the Simple DVRs (though playback directly from the DVR was very good quality).

I do still use the Simple DVRs for access to my antenna from laptops and tablets via my WLAN and remotely.

One other small thing is that the DVR+ does not have to be tethered. If there is no network connection, it populates its grid style guide using OTA data. I like this feature when I am camping, when we lose power, and when the network guide goes away (Rovi pulled the plug on their OTA guide) or just sucks (Simple's).

Lots of things to consider before choosing a solution.
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I have a quad tuner Tablo with a 1.5TB hard drive feeding four televisions via Roku. I do not include the cost of the Roku boxes, because I already had them for use with Netflix, Hulu, Amazon, Plex, Vudu, Spotify, Pandora and other stuff. The Tablo, antenna, hard drive and lifetime subscription was $600. A single quad tuner box is plenty enough for my family of four and I am about to experiment with sharing it with my parents who live too far out for OTA, but have good internet service. We rarely watch live TV and we spend a lot of our TV time viewing other content, so the DVR almost never has more than one user at a time. Because we are such light users, the Tablo was a really good value proposition and it gives us access to our programming literally anywhere without having to transcode stuff and move it to my NAS. Tablo is also supposed to be working on NAS storage support, which will make things even better. The software has steadily improved over time. The stability is fantastic and the box does not overheat. I couldn't be happier.

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