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post #91 of 106 Old 04-14-2015, 03:09 PM
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Glad you're happy. A lot of people like the whole house DVRs. If you came to me saying you had a house full of Rokus, I would certainly recommend you start with a whole house DVR. Even if you decided to go with a set top DVR, the other would be good for other devices. The Simple DVR is particularly good for remote access.

Still, for someone looking to cut their cable, who has no existing infrastructure, I am always going to recommend running a coax from an attic or roof antenna to a DVR+. For most people, this is very close to the cable experience and a very good price.
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Have spent the last week playing with a TiVo Toamio OTA. Bought two @ $299.99 with Lifetime and wish I had bought three. You do need to have internet or dialtone with the TiVos, but there are no monthly fees and $299.99 is competitive with the Channel Master DVR+. I would advise everyone to keep an eye open for an encore of this deal.
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Your big on the Channelmaster DVR+ solution.

I have the Fios local channel package. Not using OTA for my main TV that needs a DVR. TV is a newer Sharp with QAM so I just pipe the coax cable into the TV and get my main locals which is what the wife wants. We supplement other TV using Netflix & a Hulu+ solution. Streaming box is a Nvidia Shield.

Would this Channelmaster work with a QAM setup as I explained? I'd like to pipe the coax with my Fios local package into the DVR and then run the DVR into the TV using HDMI. For internet connectivity I would use a wireless thumb drive I have laying around. No access to an Ethernet connection for Internet.
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Well, after some reading the channelmaster won't work. After reading some Amazon questions it looks like only an OTA feed will work. No QAM tuner built in.

Do you have any recommendations for a similar DVR device that I can use QAM on? OTA antenna is not an option for this TV.
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When you say an antenna is not an option for 'this tv', are you saying there is no OTA at the set or at the location (address)? The only QAM DVR I have experience with is the Simple DVR. These are no longer generally available and require a software license.

Take a look at this...

http://www.amazon.com/3500STBII-Mult.../dp/B00GOILYB6
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Help - "VCR" type recorder needed
Okay, if I'm in the wrong forum, feel free to redirect me. I have cut the cord, but have a question. I have two HD TVs and two Rokus (subscribe to Netflix and Sling TV for most of the year). I am lucky and can pick up a decent # of OTA local & PBS stations with $10 indoor antennas. Occasionally, there are two OTA network shows on at the same time that I wish to watch. Since my circa 1990's VCR no longer works, what is the least expensive way to be able to record one show on just one TV. I don't need to be able to skip commercials or anything like that. It would be nice to be able to set ahead of time (i.e. set to record every Thur @ 10pm on channel 9.1) I don't wish to pay a monthly fee since I will only use this 15 - 20 times a year for an hour or so each time. Most of the DVRs I've looked into seem to be overkill for my needs.

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Help - "VCR" type recorder needed
Okay, if I'm in the wrong forum, feel free to redirect me. I have cut the cord, but have a question. ... Since my circa 1990's VCR no longer works, what is the least expensive way to be able to record one show on just one TV. [...] Most of the DVRs I've looked into seem to be overkill for my needs.

Thanks for any help!
While I'm know there are many users whose experience was not what mine was and would not make this recommendation, I would recommend you try to find a DTVPal converter box (TR40). There is a lengthy forum here: Dish DTVPal / Echostar TR40 digital to analog converter

This should work with your VCR and allow you to program both to do the recordings. We did this for quite a while but ultimately decided we wanted a real HD DVR and bought the DTVPal+ DVR/Channel Master 7000 (I think) which is no longer sold. We have been extremely happy with ours although we do still deal with issues when we go through daylight savings time changes. (forum here: The Official AVS Dish DTVPal DVR Topic!)

I saw a couple of the DVR models available on ebay today and would highly recommend that route as a low cost (but not bulletproof) solution.
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While I'm know there are many users whose experience was not what mine was and would not make this recommendation, I would recommend you try to find a DTVPal converter box (TR40). There is a lengthy forum here: Dish DTVPal / Echostar TR40 digital to analog converter

This should work with your VCR and allow you to program both to do the recordings. We did this for quite a while but ultimately decided we wanted a real HD DVR and bought the DTVPal+ DVR/Channel Master 7000 (I think) which is no longer sold. We have been extremely happy with ours although we do still deal with issues when we go through daylight savings time changes. (forum here: The Official AVS Dish DTVPal DVR Topic!)

I saw a couple of the DVR models available on ebay today and would highly recommend that route as a low cost (but not bulletproof) solution.
The DTVPal has not been manufactured for a half dozen years. I happen to own three and love them, but cannot recommend one now due to the age of the hardware.

Right now, I would recommend the TiVo Roamio/OTA at $300. It is the best DVR at any price and at $300 it is very reasonabley priced.
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Just last week I hapened to stumble onto a link to the $300/lifetime deal on an OTA that wizwor mentioned above and couldn't pass that up. I also picked up a Mini to go with it.

I've put in the needed hardwired network connections for the Mini, and this weekend will be moving the antenna that's sitting on a floor pointing out a window up to the roof. After that, I should be ready to deal with the Dish Customer Retention Specialist and cut the cord.

This is my first experience with Tivo. While the interface is admitedly a bit clunky, it's not at all a deal breaker for me. In every possible way this DVR is signifcantly better than the Dish DVR (Hughes?) I've been using for years.

One thing I've been wondering is if Tivo ever updates their streaming apps. I was hoping that maybe by winter the HBO Now app would show up.
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Just last week I hapened to stumble onto a link to the $300/lifetime deal on an OTA that wizwor mentioned above and couldn't pass that up. I also picked up a Mini to go with it.

I've put in the needed hardwired network connections for the Mini, and this weekend will be moving the antenna that's sitting on a floor pointing out a window up to the roof. After that, I should be ready to deal with the Dish Customer Retention Specialist and cut the cord.

This is my first experience with Tivo. While the interface is admitedly a bit clunky, it's not at all a deal breaker for me. In every possible way this DVR is signifcantly better than the Dish DVR (Hughes?) I've been using for years.

One thing I've been wondering is if Tivo ever updates their streaming apps. I was hoping that maybe by winter the HBO Now app would show up.
They do.
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They do.
xlnt.

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Hello. I too am in the same boast as the OP. I talked to someone here in LA that is willing to hook up a OTA installation for me for fairly decent price.

My main concern is record and playback performance. I used to watch OTA and had a Conaxsat Trio many years ago(2008) and its performance was terrible! Video would always stutter and freeze. Do these newer boxes suffer from these issues? Which box excels in the areas of performance in your opinion?
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As far as I know, all the modern DVRs are excellent recorders. They distinguish themselves on features and price.

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I don't have any hands on experience with the new Magnavox DVRs, but they sound like a nice alternative to TiVo and DVR+. I have both TiVo Roamio/OTAs and Channel Master DVR+s. Both work great and make excellent recordings.

TiVo just released a new Bolt DVR which is OTA and cable. It's probably a great DVR, but VERY expensive with monthly fees or a $600 once time fee (on top of purchase price). After using a TiVo for nearly a year, I am using a DVR+ again (wife prefers the TiVo). TiVo has apps for top services, DVR+ has free linear streaming apps, and Magnavox has no apps at all.
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Thank you very much for your reply. May be a dumb question, but what exactly is the difference between a PVR and a DVR? Can a PVR box, assuming there's a seperate USB Hard Drive attached, function the same way a box with a built in DVR can? Can I rewind, pause, etc with the PVR box?
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Digital Video Recorder vs Personal Video Recorder? No idea. I would suggest you pay more attention to features and price than to name. If you have some specific devices in mind, it might make more sense to compare them.
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what exactly is the difference between a PVR and a DVR?
They appear to be different terms to mean the same thing.

E.g., https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_video_recorder opens with this statement:
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A digital video recorder (DVR), sometimes referred to by the merchandising term personal video recorder (PVR), is a consumer electronics device or application software that records video in a digital format ...
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A personal video recorder (PVR) is an interactive TV recording device, in essence a sophisticated set-top box with recording capability (although it is not necessarily kept on top of the television set). Vendors and media also refer to the units by these names: digital video recorder (DVR); personal TV receiver (PTR); personal video station (PVS); and hard disk recorder (HDR).
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A PVR is also referred to as a hard disk recorder (HDR), digital video recorder (DVR), personal video station (PVS) , or a personal TV receiver (PTR).
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3. Both are basically referring to the same product
This last link above actually tries to draw a distinction between the two by mentioning that "PVR" means that one can "personalize" whereas "DVR" emphasizes "digital", but the two terms have grown to mean the same thing and one has to look at the feature set of any prospective device, not whether it was labeled PVR or DVR. And, according to the same article, the term "PVR" is "largely obsolete".

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