Quote:Originally Posted by leftkidney
I am not sure if this is even in the correct section but this is all I could think of to put it
I have 2 directv dvr's in the same room connected to the same TV, the TV is calibrated by me using a Minolta LS-100 and CS-200 and is a Pioneer Elite PRO-111FD
directly connected to the TV with HDMI
I have tried these things with no change
1. swapped HDMI cables
2. swapped HDMI inputs
3. tried component but I couldnt tell if it did anything
I tried composite just to see and it shows up as normal looking through that connector although its only SD the colors seem to be the same but who cares I am not watching that lol
I dont have the minolta meters they are at work but I checked the calibration about 3 months ago and it was fine - however I can probably get the LS-100 and see of the light is the same output but its hard because getting the same thing on both DVR's at the same time is hard its not like a pattern generator I cant use that anyways it would negate the problem since swapping the cables and inputs dont matter
the HR-23 seems to be 0-256 colors where the HR-24 seems to be 16-235
I have noticed a noticeable darker looking scene when I watch on the HR-24 and I have decided to record the same show on each and pause them and compare, the HR-24 looks darker - The Walking Dead looks much darker in some scenes on the HR-24 vs the HR-23
the DVR menu it self also shows slightly darker blacks in the list when showing the shows
I cant get Directv to even understand what I am talking about so this is the last place I can try to get an answer, I am sure someone knows whats up
lastly I want the retro skin back please AVS!
Believe the HR-23 outputs YCbCr (but you have described normal RGB) and the HR-24 outputs limited RGB (16-235). Unfortunately the HR-24 tells the TV it's outputting full RGB (0-256) and the TV therefore decodes it incorrectly which makes it too black and you lose black detail. I'm not sure about your HR-23 since I don't own one; but everything I've read says the HR-24 500 is the only one outputting RGB. However, if your display gives you the capability to select Low (or something silimar) vs full for RGB; select Low and your HR-24 will be correct. If your HR-23 is outputting YCBCr you are fine; if it's outputting full RGB then you must select "normal" on the display and change this selection each time you alternate between players.
Hope this makes some sense.