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I have a gift card for BB and thought id use it to replace my wifes sirius(car).
that said bestbuy only sells 3 systems-

XM XpressRCI
XM OnyX

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sirius- starmate 5

my question is a basic player for my wife would be fine-

does the XM radios play sirius-? i dont have an XM sub. just sirius-

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Since you have a Sirius sub you will want to get the Starmate 5, thats a Sirius reciever. The starmate 5 can also get best of XM. Check this place out to see whats out there. http://www.tss-radio.com/t/sirius-plug-and-play/
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Plus the really nice thing abou the Sirius Starmate 5 is the fact that not only can it receive the Best of XM(which nearly all Sirius radios can), but you can also use that radio to receive "A la Carte" programming.

This is the only Sirius radio available that can do this. Here is what A la carte programming is, and it may lower your bill, if your wife only listens to certain things:

http://www.sirius.com/packages/more#alacarte
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Plus the really nice thing abou the Sirius Starmate 5 is the fact that not only can it receive the Best of XM(which nearly all Sirius radios can), but you can also use that radio to receive "A la Carte" programming.

This is the only Sirius radio available that can do this. Here is what A la carte programming is, and it may lower your bill, if your wife only listens to certain things:

http://www.sirius.com/packages/more#alacarte

The Stratus 6 is also a la carte capable.
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At this point I'd suggest, if you're near the end of your subscription, to just swap over to XM + Best of Sirius.
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thanks-

I guess its amazing to me that BestBuy only carries one sirius car radio.

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At this point I'd suggest, if you're near the end of your subscription, to just swap over to XM + Best of Sirius.

Care to give your reason why?
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I guess its amazing to me that BestBuy only carries one sirius car radio.
I would guess that most of the car stereos they carry come xm/sirius equipped. Why go with a seperate radio?
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wifes car 2003 Camry... not about to change out the whole head unit.

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Care to give your reason why?

Sure. With the merger the channels have all become the same. They may have slightly different names (like Sirius Hits 1 vs 20on20 - same channel) but they're all merged (too bad they didn't merge the channel numbers, too).

There is still some exclusive content on XM and some other exclusive content on Sirius. The deal though, is that, if you go XM and then get the 'XM Everything + Best of Sirius' package you essentially get everything from both providers (which I realize is stupid to say since they're one company now). The last time I looked there were only about 3 or so channels (nothing major) missing from going with XM Everything + Best of Sirius. You'd have to do a side-by-side comparison of their lineup to figure out which ones they are. If you're a sports fan and you go the XM+BoS route you end up getting all of the sport channels.

There also seems to be a push to encourage people to go to XM over Sirius. I remember reading somewhere (another forum) that Sirius had stopped all production of new Sirius radios and what we're seeing now now is the last of the radios trickling through the retail outlets. Someone correct this if they know it's wrong, please.

The XM-side has also seen a pretty decent trimming of it's radios. I believe the current retail offering (not including old radios still on the shelf at Walmart or refurbs you find online) are:
- XM SkyDock (works nicely with your iPhone or iPod Touch)
- XM Xpress RCi (nice color display with channel logos)
- XM Onyx (color display, no logos)
- (new) XM Snap (basically it's an inexpensive radio on a cigarette-lighter stalk - even has a 'As seen on TV' label on it )

Of course, they announced Sirius/XM 2.0 last Summer but no details. Just that it'll be super-amazing, etc. So you may want to wait for that. It sounded like a lot of fluff to me.

If you're locked into Lifetime with Sirius then you're best bet is probably to just wait it out and see if they offer some kind of transition-deal later. Otherwise, if you're at the end of your subscription it seems like most folks (excepting for those few who really like one or more of those 3 or so channels on Sirius but not XM) would be better off just going with XM+BoS.

Also, if you plan to listen at home you can buy an XM Repeater off of Amazon for ~$20. With this you can plug your XM Xpress RCi or Onyx into your home stereo with the home dock and place the XM antenna plugged into the repeater either near a window or even outdoors (you'd probably want an outdoor antenna but the repeater can be outdoors - you just want to keep it out of the rain or direct sunlight) and then listen without the hassle of running wires.

Sirius had a similar repeater (Sirius Echo Repeater) but it has been discontinued (a few years back) and you're only likely to find it (expensive) on eBay.

The only downside I can think of is the Wife-Acceptance-Factor for the channel numbers. If she's used to listening to Sirius Hits 1 (channel 1 on Sirius) she'll now need to go over to 20on20 on XM (same programming but on channel-20). Think of it like shifting from DirecTV to Dish Network. All the channels are basically there but the channel numbers will be different.
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wifes car 2003 Camry... not about to change out the whole head unit.

If you were to do this you could get something like one of the Kenwood DNX units if you wanted everything (AM/FM/XM/Sirius/HD Radio/Navigation - I think you have to choose between XM or Sirius or HD Radio on the most recent units). It is nice to have everything in one place in your dash (no extra wires floating about, nothing to plug in or unplug).

There are a few hurdles with this:
- cost: going this route is going to bump you up in costs as: you'll be buying a new car stereo and a fairly expensive one at that. This isn't your $200 middle of the road deal.
- installation: You can do this yourself but you need to know what you're doing. If you've never installed a car stereo before find a friend who's done it or take it to a shop. When I put my Kenwood DNX-8120 in my car I just pulled out the radio, bought a new (Nav) panel from Honda, and soldered together a wire-harness. Sometimes you can get a universal wire harness which makes it easier. I think I remember my install taking a full day (not including the prep work of creating the harness, etc.). I like it and it's really nice to have everything in one unit but I wouldn't recommend it for someone new to stereo installation. No matter how you slice it it'll cost you extra for the installation (either parts or parts + someone else to do it).
- Wife Acceptance Factor (WAF). If you get a new stereo she make balk at the new interface which is nothing like her old interface (knobs and buttons). She'll eventually (probably) get used to it but you may be dealing with some grumbling until then.
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Thanks Brad however with 180,000 miles i dont think a new head unit would be the right way to go-

sportster 5 is nice however BB dont seem to carry them.... when this merger took place they shout have went SXM and merged everything. not two services offering different things-

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Yep - you're right. The fancier stereos/nav units really only make sense on a fairly new car and if you're going to keep that car for roughly a decade.
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Thanks Brad however with 180,000 miles i dont think a new head unit would be the right way to go-

sportster 5 is nice however BB dont seem to carry them.... when this merger took place they shout have went SXM and merged everything. not two services offering different things-

oh well-

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Mercury,

Another great place to look, for older models especially, is EBay.

I bought my Stiletto 100 in June of this year, and the person I dealt with was easy. Just make sure you use PayPal, as this will help protect you in case you end up dealing with a crook.

But, you can find really good deals on older models, like the sportster 5, plus alot of people sell both the home and car kits with them.
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Mercury,

Another great place to look, for older models especially, is EBay.

I bought my Stiletto 100 in June of this year, and the person I dealt with was easy. Just make sure you use PayPal, as this will help protect you in case you end up dealing with a crook.

But, you can find really good deals on older models, like the sportster 5, plus alot of people sell both the home and car kits with them.


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If you're locked into Lifetime with Sirius then you're best bet is probably to just wait it out and see if they offer some kind of transition-deal later.

I'm nearly positive this is going to be what happens. Leaving subscribers out in the cold with a "sorry, S.O.L." is not the best way to garner goodwill, especially for a company struggling to figure out a way to successfully complete this merger. I'm certain there will be some type of transition plan, at the very least for those with OEM radios and lifetime. PNP are easier to transition.

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I'd recommend that you check out:

TSS-Radio (http://tss-radio.com/)
My Radio Store (http://myradiostore.com/)
Amazon, Buy.com (not sure what you'd find there), and Walmart for radios.

Yes, this works against you burning your gift card at Best Buy but you could use that for something else. TSS-Radio, My Radio Store, Amazon, and Walmart seem to carry older models which may get you a new Sirius receiver or switched over to XM cheaper. I've used My Radio Store a few times to find older XM radios (I was focusing on XM Mini Tuners).

Good luck in your search!
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