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post #1 of 8 Old 07-09-2003, 08:37 PM - Thread Starter
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Hello,

I hate messy "adapters" and wires all over
the dash when trying to hook up addtional
devcies to a car stereo.

I would like to add XM to the car, keep the
original factory stereo, but I don't want holes
drilled, use adhesives, etc.

I have the Delphi Sky-Fi w/home kit.

In examining the auto kit it occured to me that
it may be possible to integrate the XM car holder
to the slide in cassette adapter thus eliminating
one set of wires. Possible?

Perhaps integrating a small FM modulator into
the base of the XM auto adapter would be
the ticket?

Does the antenna have to be installed outside
the car?

Has anyone come up with some creative XM
auto installations without having a mess of
wires?

How about a base unit tha plugs directly into
the cigarette lighter, has the Sky-Fi cradle
mounted on a flexible neck, incorporates an FM
modulator and an antenna on top? No wires at
all!

Maybe this item could be made with the current
car kit and some creative drill work?

Just some thoughts.

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post #2 of 8 Old 07-10-2003, 06:50 AM
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There ought to be a Bluetooth wireless solution for this.

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I was thinking about the Delphi unit, but decided against it for just this reason. I went with an Alpine unit hooked up to my existing car stero through FM modulation. (Side note: several posters here have been very down on FM modulation. The guys at the shop had units set up direct and through FM and let me play around with it for an hour or two. I honestly heard very little difference - and I have a fairly picky ear.)

Getting the hookup done right, and having it look good were two of my main concerns. I went with a local after-market radio shop because I trusted them to do a good job. And they did. There are no loose or visible wires anywhere. To be honest, I don't even know where they put the decoder box. The only visible evidence is the antenna (the antenna wire is completely hidden) and the small faceplate. The faceplate has a nice bezel and looks completely integrated into the dash. So it can be done.

The one downside was cost. They only charged $45 for the installation, but (a) I had to go with expensive Alpine equipment since that's all they sell, (b) I have to pay for a second unit to get XM in the house since I didn't go with the portable Delphi.
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check out xmfan.com
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Delphi makes an FM modulator specifically for the SkyFi. It also powers the SkyFi so it eliminates the cigarette lighter power cord as well. The result is a super clean, no wires install. I've got it and it sounds fine. AND NO WIRES!
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I've seen a number of installs where the antenna is on the inside. YMMV.
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Hello,

I purchased the Delphi car kit. After some
examination there is an "installation" that is
fairly spaghetti free.

I have a 2003 Volkswagen Passat.

Power:
Use the back seat 12v recepticle and run
the cable under the center console plastic
(where the plastic meets the carpet) to the
near the cup holders. Put the Sky-Fi holder
there.

Antenna:
Connect the antenna and run the cable under
the center console plastic directly to the back
seat. Route the wire around the back seat and
place the SkiFi antenna as far back as possible
inside on the the back panel. No need to
tape or velcro. As it turned out the weight
appears to be sufficient to keep the antenna in
place.

Audio:
Connect the cable to the cassette adapter and
run the cable underneath the center console
plastic and have it exit up front and then put in
the cassette adapter into the cassette player.

Conclusions:
The "installstion" actually looks pretty clean. If I
can find a FM modulator that runs off of 6V, I can
tap into the Sky-Fi 6V source and forget the
cassette adapter. These are only preliminary
findings but the Sky-Fi appears to have no
problem with the antenna inside on the back
panel. In driving around the city, surrounding
hills, and neighborhood I did not have one dropout.

Ideally, I would like to find a better place to
mount the Sky-Fi as it sits between the seats.
Also, the display it pretty much overwhelmed
by the ambient light. It would be nice if the
LCD display could be reversed. That change
might help make it a bit more readable in
strong light.

Best regards,

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Paul - I was able to utilize the Monsoon on my 2001 Jetta even though I replaced the head unit with a Pioneer. Pioneer has the IPLINK interconnect so no need to FM modulate. Just with the new head unit, the stereo sounds tons better than the original Monsoon ever did. I think all said my investment was ~$500 for head unit, XM receiver, and antenna. My Pioneer has an OEL display (that reverses) which is amazingly visible in harsh light. Don't be afraid to swap the head unit!


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