New member question 3: CC doesn't display on other units
The reason we swapped discs in question 2 was to view Closed Captions. The dialog was being spoken in a futuristic pigeon English that hardly made sense. As soon as the disc started to play in the recorder the captions came up perfectly, full of contractions and spellings that matched the odd dialog.
Over the years I've methodically worked through record menus on the Pana recorder and menus on playback units and the TVs; but no CC is displayed except when the discs are played back on the recording unit. That goes for PC playback too, with at least 10 different software players.
New member question 4: 1080i feed recording terrible
My new TV can display details about the feed. A certain show on a digital channel usually comes up as 720p. The recordings looked great. Last Sunday I recorded something I had been looking forward to and it looked terrible. As it happens I was watching it on the TV with straight feed and it looked great like that. This show has a long break in the middle so I stopped recording and found another channel that had its usual 720p feed; and that recorded very clearly.
The direct feed channel for the poor recording came up as 1080i on the TV, and looked every bit as good as the 720p channel I checked it against. However, the picture through the recorder unit and on the recording its self had muddled colors, I'd say yellow was in short supply because I can't describe that in terms of RGB. But it was also less clear and the displayed dimensions of the picture were like standard def. This TV will put gray bars on the side and black on the top and bottom (it's a plasma) for SD feed on over-the-air digital channels, and that's what this recording was like.
What was odd is other weeks when this show was broadcast they used 720p.
New member post 5: Observations, recordings on the PC and back again
Recently I've been fooling around with a manual-hybrid DVR. That's kind of a joke name so humor me.
Since I've asked so many questions, I want to pass along some hints.
The ATSC and QAM (antenna and cable in the menu) tuners cannot have their channels populated at the same time. (Surely that's not news around this forum.) My apartment setup has feed for both. The "antenna" selection with the HD or digital channels populates quickly, 3 minutes or so. The quality is higher but there are way fewer channels. The "cable" channel tuner that is all standard def takes forever, 14 minutes, but there are many more channels where I live. I've found that since there are no digital channels on QAM here, if I let it run through the analog lineup I can quit after one or two digital channels by pressing 'return' over and over to back out of the menu system. That literally cuts the 14 minute setup to about 2 minutes and all the 'cable' channels are available.
Lately I have been recording to +RW and mostly to -RAM media and then copying it to my PC for later viewing on the PC and also to view on non-recorder units. That's what I mean by manual-hybrid DVR. Here are some rules I've discovered.
First of all, the Panasonic unit does not like any media that it did not format or record.
Second, Panasonic recorded RW discs are very protective of their contents and file structure.
Basically, once content is removed from a Panasonic disc, it can't go back to being played on a Panasonic recorder.
It just appears to be lost time remaining; although sometimes the Track listing is goofy and the disc needs to be Pana formatted.
Someone here may have a work around but I haven't found one yet. I think it's a rights issue, even as admin. I can replace RW files but the results are so far inconsistent at best.
Now for the good news
Recording to RAM, copying to PC and back to RAM works on the Pana recorder, you can even edit the copied back content.
--You can only do that on a Panasonic formatted RAM though
RAM content copied to an RW either directly or from a PC HDD (hard disk drive) works in my Blu-Ray and old combo units
RW content can also be treated like the RAM content and played on non-recorder units
--These RW discs may be formatted on the PC. Sometimes they need a long format, sometimes quick will do.
--The full filesystem will need to be copied over to the RW root. Avoid having other files corrupting the filesystem.
--Relabeling an RW will ruin it for the Panasonic player, but re-relabeling it with the right name will fix it. (use the DOS 'label' command.)
--These RW operations have only been tested on several brands of +RW media, but not on -RW.
--These tricks didn't work on a PS3
Say you have content called "Alpha Show" If you create a directory called "Alpha Show" and copy the disc to that (RW/RAM) you can read it using several different software players. Codecs may be an issue but it can be solved.
Next task: DNLA!
I guess I'd try an avoid it if possible but unlike videotape pausing a DVDR doesn't cause the heads to spin over and over on the same segment of tape. On a DVDR it would just cause general wear and tear which should be minimal.
I've left mine on pause for an hour or so with no issues but if you don't have to I guess I wouldn't, if you had to then I'd go ahead and do it.
On another front, 99.9% of the discs I've burned have been +R but I've found a bargain in -R discs. Any thoughts on the positives or negatives of -R blanks in my EZ27?
Thanks in advance for any help.
The current preference would be recent or current non North American Panasonic HDD/DVD models. I have no experience with international models so I would hope that others might provide specific advice as to the best models.
North American Panasonic E series recorders were last produced in 2003. North American ES series DVD recorders and EH series HDD/DVD recorders were last offered for sale in the US in 2006 (and continued to be sold while stock lasted in Canada).
While ES and EH series recorders are reliable workhorses they are now at or near the end of their service lives unless one has access to service and replacement parts. Mickinct specializes in repairing/rebuilding ES and EH recorders thus extending their service life.
Panasonic EZ and EA series recorders were first produced in 2007 and 2008 (but the 2008 models were continued in production for an additional two or three years). EZ series recorders were plagued with bugs and design flaws. All six of my 2007 and 2008 EZ series recorders have now been "junked" (but are being retained for service parts).
I continue to use 2005 and 2006 ES and EH series recorders and one EA series recorder from 2009.
--Benjamin Breckinridge Warfield (1917)
Last edited by DigaDo; 11-23-2014 at 09:50 PM.
Note only Panasonic uses FR where you set a time, Pios and Toshibas use a MN system where you set the bitrate and not duration for your recording but it gives you many recording speeds like Panasonics FR.
That graph above is a timetable assuming the HDD, DVD or DL DVD is fresh and empty.
Say you already have a one 2-hour title at SP or MN-21 recorded on the HDD. Switching the MN settings will deduct time off the timetable
Same thing applies when putting in a DVD-R
If the disc is empty and you set the recorder bitrate to MN21 or SP the recorder graphic will read:
SP or MN21 = 2 hours remaining on disc
If the disc already has a one-hour program recorded at SP and you dial the bitrate to SP then the recorder graphic will read:
SP or MN21 = 1 hour remaining on disc
And so on.
Note – for SP and lower settings the timetable works in 10-minute increments. Above SP settings work in 5-minute increments.
For HSD dubbing If you dial in a higher MN setting then the time left on disc the recorder graphic will tell you that it needs to do a real-time lower bitrate transfer or you need to put in a disc with longer time remaining on disc. You can mix MN setting recordings. Say you have a one hour SP or MN21 recording on disc – you can HSD to the same disc another title that is 30-minutes long and recorded at HQ or MN32.
Last edited by Super Eye; 11-25-2014 at 11:35 PM.
Evil is charming and beautiful. It makes you doubt yourself. It asks for one small compromise after another until it whittles you down, and it functions best when no one believes in it.-JOA
Just to make sure it worked, I made all the connections (via component) about 10 days ago and successfully burned about a dozen DVDs. Two nights ago, I started a recording session as I went to bed. For some reason, recording stopped about 5 minutes in - all I got was black screen for the remainder.
Then, last night, I did the same with another recording I wanted to archive. When I finalized the disc today, playing it back showed repeated audio & video dropouts. I assumed it was a recording problem, but, while trying to burn something just now, the video source was doing the same thing, before recording even started. I even switched to HDMI - same result. The video plays for about 2.5 seconds and the goes black, with no sound, for about 1.5 seconds, repeating nonstop.
I have four receivers (three ultimateTV and one a 7 year old SD HD recorder) and they are all doing the same thing! It seems to be a concerted effort to make us all with older receivers upgrade or F-----off......
One update... As I was thinking through what I wrote, I realized that I hadn't rechecked the component signal after attaching HDMI. Oddly, while HDMI was still showing dropouts, the component connection was rock solid. It stayed like that as I switched between them several times.
So I re-started one of the failed sessions above. After 4 minutes or so, it was still stable so I left it to do its thing overnight. I'll update this tomorrow.