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Avoid the buggy '05/06 ES-20 and ES-40v models as well as the '07 EZ-x7 models and '08 EZ-48v, the '08 and newer EZ-28 is better but still not as good as the older ES-EH models of '05 and '06.
My favorites of the HDD variety are: '05 EH-50, '06 EH-55 and of the non hdd models that would be the '05 ES-10, ES-30v and '06 ES-15 and similar ES-25.
Most Panasonic users avoid + media like the plague although '05 and newer do officially support + media, it's just - is more compatible and burn better in Panasonics.
If you always use SP or better or don't care about full D1 resolution in speeds between SP and LP then '04 and older Panasonics may also work well for you. AFAIK only the more buggy EZ models came in black and again of those the only one I'd own(and do) is the EZ-28(and if you don't care about a tuner then the EA models are also good). Note only the EZ models have a digital tuner, not the ES/EH models or older.
I've compiled a list of the various N. American and international Panasonics over the years here is it's link:
Panasonic DVD recorder US models, years produced and features

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On another front, any thoughts on DVD+R vs DVD-R blanks in my EZ27? So far,
99.9% of the DVDs I've burned have been +R, but I've found a bargain on -R discs
so I thought I'd ask before taking the plunge.
As has been said, Panasonic's prefer -R media over +R. The PLUS media is supported, but the machines definitely prefer the DASH media over the PLUS.

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The one about saliva confuses me, how do you let the DVD spin round without playing it!!

You moisten your finger(I use middle right finger) then while holding the DVD upside down in your left hand I run my finger around the bottom inside spindle area, then immediately put the disc in the tray and close it.
I've been doing this for years with a couple DVDRs with no adverse effects If you put too much saliva on the spindle you'll notice several fine lines emanating from the spindle and going straight out to the edge of the DVD, this doesn't happen if you use just a film.
Again if your getting the chugging no disc read error this procedure will not work, thats a bad laser, this procedure is just for curing the grinding noise and provides just enough traction for the spindle to hold the disc.
Lastly do NOT use this procedure with Taiyo Yuden DVDs as they are already slightly tactile(grippy) and saliva might actually make matters worse. If your discs are grinding and you use something other than Tys then just switching to Tys will probably work just fine.

I actually will use 'tacky' scotch tape and carefully 'blot' the area around the inner hole. This method has worked wonders keeping the spindle from slipping. I also use T/Y discs and they still occasionally will have the grinding slip.

Any residue that might actually transfer to the interior mechanism to make it more 'tacky' is a good things in my eyes. Saliva is just so temporary and I just cant get over hocking a loogey on my discs (obviously way overstating it )

Everyone here basically has machines that are going on 8-10 years. Anything that can be done to extend the life and make them usable for another 8-10 years is beneficial
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Hi. My EZ48V makes those grinding noises, and now refuses to load Panasonic brand DVD-RAMs, whether blank or with recorded material. However, my supply of blank and recorded Sony DVD+R discs will still load, albeit not all the time.

How screwed am I?

Thanks for any help!
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Have you tried cleaning the spindle? If any discs load then it's probably just a dirty spindle, in no discs load then it may be a failed laser.
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Thanks for responding so quickly. The saliva method didn't work. Should I try the scotch tape, or the cotton swab with alcohol? I feel reticent about sticking the swab under the tray. I may be overcomplicating this, but is it as simple as described? When the tray sticks out, I cannot find the required opening, for example.

Sorry to sound so dense. I really appreciate your help.
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Panasonic DVD Drive basic diagnostic information and routine servicing procedures are found in the second and third posts in this thread.

Panasonic DVD drive spindle/hub cleaning, includes remedial procedures for reassembly complications

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When the tray sticks out, I cannot find the required opening, for example.
Well by far the preferred method is to unplug and then remove the units cover followed by the drives cover, but you can also get a "OK" cleaning by ejecting the drive tray and then unplugging the unit. Shine a decent flashlight inside the opening around the tray and you should see the round black spindle(the part the center of the DVD sits upon when inserted). Using a long handled alcohol(or I use Freon based cleaner) soaked cotton or even better yet foam swab, insert the swab in the drive opening and using a spinning and in/out motion, clean the top of the rubber spindle. The more cleaning the better and I generally re soak the swab several times.
This method does work but because the spindle spins easily, it's hard to get a good scrubbing of the rubber top. If you were to take the drive apart you could physically hold the spindle with one finger while scrubbing the top with a swab in the other hand, something that can't be done with a cleaning going through the front of the drive.
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