Before buying, search thru the AVS Forum and other user reviews: the Magnavox ZC352MW8 has a spotty reputation on QAM tuning. About half the people who bought these report that it forgets its channel memory frequently, tunes very slowly, and often powers on in "initial setup" mode which prevents any channels being tuned until you complete setup. I understand you think you can just grab the cheapest recorder with digital tuner you can find and use it as a PIP box, because all you want it for is the tuner, but that my friend is the rub: these recorder tuners, on the whole, still suck and are very problematical especially on QAM. The very cheap units tend to stink on ice: you get what you pay for, or less. A tuner for PIP that doesn't tune anything is useless to you, so my advice stands: if you are on a strict budget, wait for new products that will begin arriving in December. Its very likely an updated, refined accessory ATSC/QAM tuner box with component and/or HDMI will turn up at a price you can afford.