Originally Posted by kjbawc
I think your confusion comes from the fact that there are TWO "divide" functions. The one that comes up in the first menu will divide one title into two, and can't be undone. But, if you select "Chapter Edit" from that same menu, you see the "exit-divide-erase-combine" list. The list on THAT menu, as Citibear says, divides the title into chapters,
not separate titles.
Thanks, kjbawc. Yes, this definitely helps sort it out for me.
I have a Pio 640, and I didn't find the manual that confusing, although it could use a good index, and some operations were partially discussed in different sections, instead of explained in one place. I read the manual 4 times, did some hi-liting, and made some notes on the contents pages. That helped a lot..
What I find especially infuriating is that far too often, directions are given to make sure a certain setting in a particular sub-menu has been made. But in many instances, Pio doesn't get around to telling us where to locate that specific menu. At least once and maybe twice, I found a different term in the manual than what was used on the remote or a menu.
So, there's lots of hunting and searching, at least for this electronically challenged individual. And you're right, just when you think you've got the answer to a question, they taunt you by giving you a little information and then continue it elsewhere. It's a conspiracy, I tell you!
Until you are familiar with the unit, you might best do your editing in the copy list, so you can start over, if you make any mistakes.
Haven't explored the copy list option yet, but I surely will.
Different people prefer different ways, but I start all my editing in "Chapter Edit." I put chapter marks at the beginning and ending of the program, and the commercials. I delete the stuff before the program begins. Then, I delete the commercials. Then, I delete what comes after the program.
Makes a lot of sense to me. I'll do this next time around.
I put a chapter mark at the frame I want to use for a thumbnail. If I want to divide the title into separate titles, I put a chapter mark at that point, then go back to the "Divide" function in the first menu. Doing it this way, I only have to scan through the recording once, and then have marks to jump to for title divide, and thumbnails.
This also strikes me as very sensible. Great stuff!
BTW, if you think the Pio manual is complicated, you'll need to hire someone to help you if you buy a modern AV receiver. I've had my Denon 3805 for 3 years now, and have barely begun to explore/understand all its features!
Yeah, I can easily relate to this. Back in '00, I purchased my home theater unit. (Of course, by today's standards, it's an antiquity). It took a little while, but I got the hang of how to use most of the components. The one that remains a mystery to me (except for the absolute basics) is the AV receiver/amplifier. It's the Pioneer VSX-21, and I believe you require a higher degree in Engineering to comfortably use it.
Man, you'd think eight years later, when I was ready to purchase a DVR, I'd have learned my lesson about Pioneer.
Okay, if you (or anyone) doesn't mind me prattling on, I'm now making a disc recording from the HDD and not getting anything watchable. Point-by-point, here's what I did:
I recorded two different programs from two different tapes. They went from a VCR to the DVR's HDD. Success!
I edited the programs by using the DVR's menus as you and CitiBear recommended. Once again, success!
I then attempted to make a copy of both edited programs onto a rewritable disc on the DVR. Naturally, the source was the DVR's HDD. (If there's any doubt, the RW disc was properly initialized beforehand). BTW, is there some method to instruct the burner to do all of the listed titles and not just one at a time?
After finishing, I checked the disc, expecting to find the recorded material. Nope. Nothing. Tried it in my DVD Player and received a "No Disc" message. This was not a success.
I then went back over every menu I could find on the DVR and made a small change. (Can't remember what it was specifically called, but in one of the sub-menus, I indicated the disc was to be burned for use in any DVD player).
Then, I made a test recording, just copying five minutes from the first program onto the RW disc. This time, it played those five minutes on the DVR. (Leastwise, I think that's what it was). However, when I attempted to play the disc in my DVD Player, it came up once again with "No Disc."
Are we having fun yet? I guess my question is this: what is the proper method to record from the DVR's HDD to disc? I've had no problems recording from a VCR directly to the disc, but it's not happening from the HDD.
*hangs head* Anybody know the directions back to a simpler time, say the '50's? Then again, there's a good chance I'll mess those up, too.
All kidding aside, I appreciate what everybody here has done on my behalf. There's always the chance that someday this may wind up as a short story.
- WriterGuy -