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I haven't posted three times, so I'm going to edit out the links to my "homework" of threads I've found here, the box's manual, etc. I'll add them once I'm up to three. (EDIT: Added links)

I just got a Magnavox ZV450MW8 from the local pawn shop for $18, but without remote. I've copied a VHS to DVD+R, but I can't figure out how to finalize without the remote.

Threads & info on finalizing and this player here (just to show I have looked around a bit):
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=985419
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1190657
FAQ: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...tcount=26#Dub8

Manual:
http://www.funai-corp.com/6pdf/om/ZV450MW8.pdf

I know I need the "Disc Edit" menu, but I don't know if there's a way to get there using just the buttons on the front of the unit. Any help? Worst case: Any good (cheap) universal remote that'd do the trick? Harmony doesn't do it, nor does the cheapie RCA RCR312WV.

It looks like there's no PC option:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1029010
http://archive2.avsforum.com/avs-vb/.../t-631751.html
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/archi...t-1018118.html

Although there is a suggestion that Isobuster might do something. Unf, I'm on a Mac.

Remote online for $20 shipped.
http://www.emtcompany.com/magnavox-n...l/1009469.html

Don't know anything about that supplier, however.

Thanks!
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...I just got a Magnavox ZV450MW8 from the local pawn shop for $18, but without remote. I've copied a VHS to DVD+R, but I can't figure out how to finalize without the remote.

Threads & info on finalizing and this player here (just to show I have looked around a bit)... Manual...

I know I need the "Disc Edit" menu, but I don't know if there's a way to get there using just the buttons on the front of the unit. Any help? Worst case: Any good (cheap) universal remote that'd do the trick? Harmony doesn't do it, nor does the cheapie RCA RCR312WV.

It looks like there's no PC option...

Remote online for $20 shipped...

Thanks!
For future reference for other readers I've offered some advice here:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...7#post20086787

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Remote online for $20 shipped.
http://www.emtcompany.com/magnavox-n...l/1009469.html...

Okay, I ended up grabbing a remote. EMTC didn't have it and issued a refund. Ended up getting it for $36 shipped. It's a shame, because I really only needed one button.

Is there a way that I can use a learning remote to post some identifying characteristic of that button's signal so that others can just type in a few characters rather than buy a remote that runs twice as much as VCR/DVD deck?

EDIT: I don't know anything about them, but perhaps this JP1 remote is what one would use?
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...37#programming
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Okay, I ended up grabbing a remote. EMTC didn't have it and issued a refund. Ended up getting it for $36 shipped. It's a shame, because I really only needed one button.

Is there a way that I can use a learning remote to post some identifying characteristic of that button's signal so that others can just type in a few characters rather than buy a remote that runs twice as much as VCR/DVD deck?

EDIT: I don't know anything about them, but perhaps this JP1 remote is what one would use?
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...37#programming

For a time I experimented with a $9.74 Philips learning remote. I report my findings in a few posts beginning here:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...7#post15172667

I soon came to the conclusion that it's easier to use the original remotes rather than trying to make one remote control everything. To avoid remote control clutter I keep my remotes in Taiyo Yuden cake boxes, as seen at the right in this photo:
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For a time I experimented with a $9.74 Philips learning remote. I report my findings in a few posts beginning here:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...7#post15172667

I soon came to the conclusion that it's easier to use the original remotes rather than trying to make one remote control everything.

Well, here, what I'd like to do is figure out if I can share what IR frequency (or whatever you measure IR by -- whatever it is that the learning remote actually learns) is required to get the "finalize" option up on the screen for this one deck. That is, if you don't have access to an original remote and/or don't want to spend the cash on it, but do want to finalize a recorded DVD, what's the least amount of information and hardware you have to have to get this done? I wasn't able to find codes for the Harmony remote, for instance, to control this deck, and my universal gave some functionality but didn't have the key I needed.

That's why I wonder if this JP1 remote might be the easiest way to get that done. Still don't know what the right "units" would be, though.

Thanks for the reply.
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Thanks for posting this. I only have one of the black remotes, every recorder since that came with the white remotes that have different button placement. I have never gotten used to them.
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A better solution is to find a nearby AVS member with the original remote for your recorder. That member might help you teach a learning remote all the commands you need.

Perhaps Funai Customer Support still offers the correct NB555 remote at reasonable cost, call 1-888-290-0871 or visit:

http://www.funai-corp.com/support/contact.aspx

The first photo shows the NB555 remote used with early production Magnavox ZV450MW8 recorders.

Once operational, early production Magnavox ZV450MW8 recorders have a peculiarity where the DVD Drive tray may not be opened when in the TIMER SET operation unless the recorder is powered on by pressing TIMER SET. The second photo shows that information found in a note on page 37 of the Owner's Manual.

The Owner's Manual is essential for finding one's way through that and other peculiarities. Yes, that Owner's Manual requires some study in order to understand how to use an early production Magnavox ZV450WM8. A PDF version may be downloaded here:

http://www.funai-corp.com/support/manuals.aspx

Be sure to select the Magnavox version of the ZV450. The Sylvania and TruTech ZV450 variations are built to different specifications and lack certain features found on the Magnavox ZV450MW8.

If you have a Magnavox ZV450MW8A (manufactured in 2008) be sure to download that version of the Owner's Manual as the early and later recorders differ in several respects. The later "A" version can be identified from the sticker on the back of the recorder, compare the third and fourth photos.
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Is there a way that I can use a learning remote to post some identifying characteristic of that button's signal so that others can just type in a few characters rather than buy a remote that runs twice as much as VCR/DVD deck?

EDIT: I don't know anything about them, but perhaps this JP1 remote is what one would use?
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...37#programming

Not really, no. Sometimes a "bargain" recorder is cheap for a reason, and there's no free lunch. The fact that you're on the Mac platform effectively locks you out of the few possible gearhead solutions: Macs are great for everyday and creative use, but the lunatic fringe stuff is really only available for Windows. Assuming you could borrow a Windows PC, and that you're Einstein's long-lost nephew, you might be able to hook up an IR reader and some arcane signal parsing software, point the remote at the computer, capture the DISC MENU pulse, and convert it to a file that can be loaded into a Harmony or JP1. Personally I wouldn't bother: its nice that you want to help other people in the same situation, but there are limits to how much effort you want to invest in being helpful.

There are other factors. Someone who spent $79-$249 on a Harmony is unlikely to be hitting pawn shops looking for an $18 DVD/non-HDD recorder, so you really don't need to worry about helping them. As far as the JP1 goes, thats a whole drama unto its own. There are several types of JP1, they're hard to identify, and the "good" ones that are most compatible with this kind of remote tinkering are discontinued: you have to find them second-hand or thru JP1 specialty suppliers. Programming them veers from easy-peezy to oh-hells-no: depends on the specific code and the computer you're trying to load from. There are a gazillion threads on this posted by owners of Pioneer DVD recorders who needed to fake the rare Pioneer Service Remote signals: most chucked the whole idea after spending weeks on it and just bought the damn remote for $80.

I understand your urge to help others, but it may be easier to just announce your availability to copy your remote pulses into a learning remote someone could send to you to program for them. All that requires is pointing the two remotes at each other and pressing a few buttons to copy over the necessary two or three finalizing buttons. I used to do this for people who needed the Pioneer service codes, until Sony made a service remote available for under $20 that anyone could afford.
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There are other factors. Someone who spent $79-$249 on a Harmony is unlikely to be hitting pawn shops looking for an $18 DVD/non-HDD recorder

Ouch. I took one in the side there! (but point taken)

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Assuming you could borrow a Windows PC, and that you're Einstein's long-lost nephew, you might be able to hook up an IR reader and some arcane signal parsing software, point the remote at the computer, capture the DISC MENU pulse, and convert it to a file that can be loaded into a Harmony or JP1...

Programming them veers from easy-peezy to oh-hells-no...

Yeah, the info I pulled up looked neat, but the remotes, when I checked prices, were $30 and up, and some required you solder onto the 7 pins. Neat if you've got one, but the numbers of folks with a JP1 and a Magnavox ZV450MW8 sans remote is probably a pretty small percentage.

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It may be easier to just announce your availability to copy your remote pulses into a learning remote someone could send to you to program for them. All that requires is pointing the two remotes at each other and pressing a few buttons to copy over the necessary two or three finalizing buttons.

Can do! I just hate feeling lock-in for something that we can, even if not easily, share with each other. Fight the corporate power and all that.

Thanks for the context. I was hoping you could tell a standard Harmony learning remote (something I've thought of getting a few times) to map code "AE0C34" to button 12 and be done. Oh well. Learned something new.
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Ouch. I took one in the side there! (but point taken)

Apologies for that, no snark was intended: absolutely nothing wrong with bargain hunting at pawn shops. I'm sure a few Harmony owners do, its just less likely.

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I was hoping you could tell a standard Harmony learning remote (something I've thought of getting a few times) to map code "AE0C34" to button 12 and be done. Oh well. Learned something new.

I think you can do such a thing, it just requires getting the correct code from Harmony. They have kind of a screwy system where you have to register your remote to gain access to the code library they provide online. Some people get around this by going to non-North American Harmony sites where codes are more freely available, but its still kinda tricky, and they don't have codes for everything. Depending on the specific Harmony model and who supplied the code files you need, the downloading can go well or really mess up the Harmony. It just one of those weird situations where if you're gonna blow beaucoup bucks on a system remote, it doesn't make sense to risk messing with it unless its to run a high-end AV setup. Best example again is the quest to fake the Pioneer Service Remote: many many people tried grabbing the code from an Asian Logitech site, loaded it into their Harmony, and wrecked it. It got to be such an issue that Logitech removed that code from most of their worldwide sites for awhile.
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Apologies for that, no snark was intended: absolutely nothing wrong with bargain hunting at pawn shops. I'm sure a few Harmony owners do, its just less likely.

No no, even after the good-natured ribbing, it's a good point. I've determined the best place to find a used VCR when mine dies is the pawn shop. I wasn't looking for a VHS<>DVD dubber, but was excited when I found one. I'd been going to a library that has a deck attached to a PowerMac and pulling footage via Firewire. This is much lower quality, but sooooo much easier.

And still, $18+$36 isn't a bad deal.

But someone looking to record DVDs going to a pawn shop? Hrm... Probably not. A forest for the trees situation for me, I think.

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I think you can do such a thing, it just requires getting the correct code from Harmony. They have kind of a screwy system where you have to register your remote to gain access to the code library they provide online...

Interesting idea to go global. The ZV450MW8 wasn't found on Logitech's US site, but I didn't think to try anywhere else (ie, another country's site).

But, as you say, there's no real reason to pay $80 for the cheapest of learning remotes and then crack it when the real thing will show up on your door for $36. I was hoping for something as easy as "Point 'real' remote to learning remote. Learning remote learns frequency and displays the Disc Menu code on its LCD. Post code to AVS. Others type a few numbers and profit." I'm not sure *that* exists, short of the hard-core JP1 crowd and Einstein's nephew, etc.

Thanks again. And to be explicit, if anyone needs the codes from a ZV450MW8 and has a learning remote to pop in the mail handy... feel free to PM me.
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This thread didn't catch my eye until now. But a JP1 remote could have easily solved your problem. Some can be found for as little as $1 (I know, I have a closet full of them). You need no special software, interface cables or programming skills. For anyone else in the same boat, here's what to do if you get any of the 54 JP1 remotes with the magnavox codes like the radio shack 15-100, 133, 134 or 135, or RCA RCRP05B, URC-8820N, URC-10820N, Atlas OCAP, etc:

- Press DVD or VCR, hold setup for 2 blinks, press 0675 (or 20675 depending on the remote)
- Hold setup for 2 blinks, press 994, tap setup, enter the appropriate code from the list below, press the button you want to assign a function to. Repeat for adding more functions. The basic functions like transport keys, numbers, menus and arrow will probably work without programming. If you have a model that takes 3 digit codes, just drop the 2 leading zeros from the codes below.

0 00038
1 00168
2 00166
3 00170
4 00037
5 00041
6 00039
7 00043
8 00036
9 00040
standby-on 00169
DTV/TV 00064
source 00150
open/close 00164
channel+ 00148
channel- 00152
dot(.) 00062
clear 00229
display 00104
HDMI 00105
audio 00011
timer 00151
disc menu 00137
title 00133
setup 00132
up arrow 00138
down arrow 00005
left arrow 00136
right arrow 00134
OK 00135
return 00139
VCR 00124
DVD 00125
play 00230
pause 00235
rewind 00103
fast fwd 00107
stop 00197
record 00026
skip- 00232
skip+ 00234
CM skip 00154
rapid play 00021
search 00106
rec mode 00025
d.dubbing 00023
timer set 00149
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Solution doesn't seem to match model capabilities?

I'm struggling with your instructions and hope you can help/remember.

After programming the device code (0675) you state:

Hold setup for 2 blinks, press 994, tap setup, enter the appropriate code from the list below, press the button you want to assign a function to.

I looked up most of the user manuals (at least one of each brand, a couple of the radio shack ones) that you listed in your post. None of them seem to support the 994 code - at least not listed in their manuals - though they have a 995 macro code but once entered you immediately select 1 of 2 or 3 available macros keys - not a followup up tap on setup as you described above. Some of the models listed don't even have a setup button,)

So you can see my confusion on this solution. I wanted to buy one of these remotes to solve the problem as you described, but according to their manuals, I don't see how this will work, do you?
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I'm struggling with your instructions and hope you can help/remember.

After programming the device code (0675) you state:

Hold setup for 2 blinks, press 994, tap setup, enter the appropriate code from the list below, press the button you want to assign a function to.

I looked up most of the user manuals (at least one of each brand, a couple of the radio shack ones) that you listed in your post. None of them seem to support the 994 code - at least not listed in their manuals - though they have a 995 macro code but once entered you immediately select 1 of 2 or 3 available macros keys - not a followup up tap on setup as you described above. Some of the models listed don't even have a setup button,)

So you can see my confusion on this solution. I wanted to buy one of these remotes to solve the problem as you described, but according to their manuals, I don't see how this will work, do you?
Everything on the "JP1 List" in my signature except Xsight/Nevo and the new 8820 (old 8820N is fine) supports 994 (key move) whether the manual states it or not. But Xsight/Nevo is easier since you just load the codes from a computer. However, the model numbers must match the list. It can't be just any Radio Shack remote. The Radio Shack remotes on the list haven't been made for years anyway, and most Radio Shacks are out of business, so that's probably not the best choice these days. If you just want something cheap, a Comcast remote from ebay will be the cheapest ($3). If you want something nicer, Nevo C2 from ebay ($16) is best (doesn't use 994, but you simply load a file from a computer and you're done).

Most of the models listed in my post are obsolete since that post is 5 years old. I tried to post the common models at that time. They will still work, but are going to be somewhat hard to find. The RCA is still around but overpriced most places. Use the linked list instead to find a more current model.

Post the model you're considering, and I will confirm whether it will work or not. But basically if it has any 9xx command in the manual, it will work.

If you strike out on ebay or Amazon, I have many of the remotes on the list and can hook you up with whichever one you want, preprogrammed, so you don't have to do anything. Just PM me if you're interested in going that route.

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Everything on the "JP1 List" in my signature except Xsight/Nevo and the new 8820 (old 8820N is fine) supports 994 (key move) whether the manual states it or not. But Xsight/Nevo is easier since you just load the codes from a computer. However, the model numbers must match the list. It can't be just any Radio Shack remote. The Radio Shack remotes on the list haven't been made for years anyway, and most Radio Shacks are out of business, so that's probably not the best choice these days. If you just want something cheap, a Comcast remote from ebay will be the cheapest ($3). If you want something nicer, Nevo C2 from ebay ($16) is best (doesn't use 994, but you simply load a file from a computer and you're done).

Most of the models listed in my post are obsolete since that post is 5 years old. I tried to post the common models at that time. They will still work, but are going to be somewhat hard to find. The RCA is still around but overpriced most places. Use the linked list instead to find a more current model.

Post the model you're considering, and I will confirm whether it will work or not. But basically if it has any 9xx command in the manual, it will work.

If you strike out on ebay or Amazon, I have many of the remotes on the list and can hook you up with whichever one you want, preprogrammed, so you don't have to do anything. Just PM me if you're interested in going that route.
I was hoping for something very cheap, and something I could program directly into the handset itself, rather than from a computer.

My EBAY first choice, based on lowest total as shipped price, was an Optimum URC1056 @ $6 (ad title also lists 1056B03, but the title page of the user manual shown just says URC1056)

Seems to have some 99X features because it lists

- Macro Key for Instant Tune-In of Your Favourite Channels
- Colour-Coded Keys to Quickly Locate Popular Functions
- Code Searching for a Device
- Code Checking
- Volume Lock
- Reassigning Device Keys
- Programming Channel Control Lock
- Memory Retainer - No Memory Loss in Case of a Battery Failure
- Help, Guide, Menu, and Mute Buttons
- Classic Black Colour with Multi-Coloured Keys
- Designed with UEI Technologies
- Uses 2 AA Batteries which are Included
- JP1 Connector

But Not sure if this is a real match to your list really or not, since you don't show just the URC1056 only the URC1056B01 and B03. I could ask them to confirm how they know this is a B03.


My backups were a TIME WARNER ATLAS OCAP 5-Device Backlit Cable Box Remote Control 1056B01 which is definitely on your list

and a comcast remote which is marked in the ad as JP1 Though this has no specific model number listed on it.

Now that I understand where the list is, I may search again to see if another one even cheaper may be available. Your list is VERY helpful!! THANKS!!!

Question - Where did you find the EFC codes for this magnavox recorder? Now that I understand these "special" keys/functions can be manually mapped using these types of remotes, I have other devices I've bought at yard sales etc, but when I get them home I find they all had somewhat unique remote codes and weren't listed in and general universals I've come across, at least not more more then basic power/volume, but rarley can get to any special features, if the brand is even listed at all. Vintage JVC stereo equipment for example, which seems to have a lot of special features on the remotes. Also a skyworth DVD-510P Karaoke DVD player . Both of which I would love to find the EFC codes and program up one of these remotes for each. But I have lots of CD/DVDs players & stereo all of which could use a remote for.
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This Comcast is a bit cheaper at $4. Otherwise just about any Atlas type should do fine.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/3-DEVICE-UNI...-/291704614073

Sellers generally have no idea if a remote is JP1 or not.

Most of my codes come from the JP1 file section (you need to download and install Remote Master to read them). Anything in a brand of the same vintage should work fine on your other devices. We should have something for your JVC, but we have nothing for that skyworth player.

I think your best bet would be to get a JP1 remote capable of learning in order to control the skyworth. But that's going to much more expensive, costing at least $14.

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Thanks for the comcast remote ad link. I'm going to grab that right now!

Forgive my ignorance, but I've had a few learning remotes in the past but they always require the other (real) remote to learn from. e.g. put them head to head, push a button on the original and one on the learning one to map it to. Is there a way to use a learning remote to program the skyworth codes without the original remote present? $10 is reasonable given the actual one is running $20
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Also - where is the file section with the jp1 files and the remote master program?
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Thanks for the comcast remote ad link. I'm going to grab that right now!

Forgive my ignorance, but I've had a few learning remotes in the past but they always require the other (real) remote to learn from. e.g. put them head to head, push a button on the original and one on the learning one to map it to. Is there a way to use a learning remote to program the skyworth codes without the original remote present? $10 is reasonable given the actual one is running $20
You need the original for learning. But you can usually add codes if we can find them from some other source. Best bet would be to join the JP1 forum (you have to do that anyway to download our files) and ask in the Slingbox sub-forum there. Someone will probably find the skyworth codes and post them for you.

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Remote Master (use the link next to "Looking for the latest...")

There is a learning curve, so at least skim the tutorials on the wiki in my signature. But you'll essentially just double click whatever device file you download from the JP1 site and look at the EFCs on the Functions tab. You'll have to ask me or someone in the JP1 forum what setup code (i.e., 0675) goes with the EFCs you find in different files.
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You need the original for learning. But you can usually add codes if we can find them from some other source. Best bet would be to join the JP1 forum (you have to do that anyway to download our files) and ask in the Slingbox sub-forum there. Someone will probably find the skyworth codes and post them for you.


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Remote Master (use the link next to "Looking for the latest...")

There is a learning curve, so at least skim the tutorials on the wiki in my signature. But you'll essentially just double click whatever device file you download from the JP1 site and look at the EFCs on the Functions tab. You'll have to ask me or someone in the JP1 forum what setup code (i.e., 0675) goes with the EFCs you find in different files.
OK. I registered but didn't get the typical immediate activation email when joining a forum and it's been some 20-30 minutes, so i assume it's a human on the other end that handles that actual approval. Or it got routed to a unexpected folder someplace, though i checked spam and it's not there.
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I don't think the email activation actually does anything. Just try to login, it will probably work. If not, PM me your login name and I'll let the site admin know.
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Can't send PM's yet - but user name is same as here.

Ordered the comcast one you found. Also saw another larger lot that looked identical except says Xfinitty on it instead of comcast. Can't post links yet either but item # is 181927758761. They say it's a Motorola DCt DCH Z13 but didn't see that in your list. I'm going to need several at some point (once I show myself I can do this easy enough) so I'll be on the lookout for larger lot sizes of compatible units.
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Hold off on that lot. New Xfinity ones look identical but won't work.
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I confirmed your account was created. Can you still not login?
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Nope. Invalid user name and.or pw.
If I try to request password with my username it says "Sorry, but your password cannot be retrieved because your account is currently inactive. Please contact the forum administrator for more information."
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You've been activated now. Give it another try. Your email is apparently blocking hifi-remote.com.
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Not my email program but probably comcast. Can login now though. I switched it to a gmail account and that traffic appears to be coming through ok now and just reconfirmed for that new address. Thanks for the help!!
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The remote I ordered ended up having the order cancelled. Out of stock.
I assume no issue with this lot? http://www.ebay.com/itm/321900647425...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
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I'm not 100% sure about the latest Atlas you linked. Best to ask in the JP1 forum (hifi-remote.com) to confirm if the 1056B03 can do "EFC style keymoves". Some later remotes have lost that capability and it's almost impossible to tell by the appearance (they look exactly the same as the older ones).

In any case, I think you're being hasty buying 10. I personally don't care for the Atlas, and you may not either. I think your money would be better spent on one to try, plus a JP1 cable ($8). With a cable, you never have to manually enter any codes, just a few clicks and everything gets downloaded from PC/Mac/Linux using the Remote Master software you're learning about now. And you can clone your config to all your other remotes in seconds. Once you determine exactly which model remote you prefer, then buy more. For example, you may find a backlit Atlas more useful or some other style more visually or ergonomically appealing.

Here's a good cable: http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=16200
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