CitiBear's post last night scared the crap out of me
so I archived a VHS concert I had sitting on my HDD for a while. Prepped it and HSD'd it to one of the Indian manufactured AZO 16x discs from my newest 50 pack. I am happy to report that my two-year-old RDR-HX780 had no issues burning the disc and in fact was very quiet while HSD dubbing.
I ran a total of five tests on this Indian manufactured AZO disk and am happy to report it passed all 5 tests with flying colors.The tests:1)) Visual inspection of the disc:
Result = No abnormal colouring. Disc looks normal.2)) Playback of disc in my stand-alone player:
Results = No freezing, skipping or blocking. Disc played flawlessly from beginning to end.
Tests 3 - 4 - 5:
Although not an exact science but from the various discs I scanned in the past and from talking with others, I have learned how to analyze the results.3) PC CD DVD quality test. (Enclosed picture AZO-India-Quality.jpg)
(With this test the disc should have minimal failures and errors along with a high quality score.)
Scan reports a very good burn. In fact comparing this burn to past discs I scanned I have to say that this burn is average from my other AZO burns.4) PC CD DVD benchmark test. (Enclosed picture AZO-India-BenchMark.jpg)
(With this test the read speed should steadily climb from beginning to end without hesitation, as hesitation would indicate trouble reading certain spots)
Scan reports a very good burn with a steady read speed climb without any hesitation.5) PC CD DVD Scandisk test. (Enclosed picture AZO-India-Scan.jpg)
This test is basically the same as your typical windows HDD scan disc test. It checks for physical errors in the sectors of the disk and it also checks for bad sectors in the disc)
Scan reports zero physical damage in the disc.
These tests are only guidelines but I have to say that by physically examining the disc, playing the disc in another stand-alone and doing various PC checks - one does get a basic idea of the condition of the burn and the disc after combining ALL your results. The first disc out of my newest batch of 16X (Indian manufactured) Verbs passed with flying colours. Maybe in a few years I will dig up this thread and update this report with a longevity test.
-------------------Getting back to the post by CitiBear that scared the crap out of me I think one of three things happened.1)) The online vendor is careless with handling.
I have seen first hand some vendors pilling up heavy stuff on top of sealed 50 packs of discs. I will never buy from those vendors. Those careless vendors need to realize that you cannot pile 500 pounds of crap on top of discs. I know space is a priority but vendors should not expect fragile little discs to burn properly after they have 500 pounds of weight piled on top of em. Sometimes someone else down the line in shipping could be to blame. This is why I prefer to walk into a store when I buy discs. I like to see how they handle and stock the discs and I'd like to be able to walk back in and return the discs if need be.IMO the above is the most likely cause of CitiBear's bad experience and I would change vendors.2)) The online vendor is a fraud.
I have read on the internet that some of the no-name online vendors sell Asian knock-off discs and they are not genuine verb discs and the fraudsters even counterfeit the media-id.3)) Bad batch of discs.
Could happen but usually it's tens of thousands of bad discs in a batch not just a few hundred. If this is the case you would think that a big co. like Verbatim would make a public recall to save their reputation.