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Hi,

I currently have a sony dvd recorder and I am going to upgrade to a 3d blu ray player but wanted to find out if a recorder version is available? Any ideas?

I will not be recording 3d just want to use the 3d as a player and the recorder part to record from the tv...

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Simple answer is, no.

There are no BD-R recorders in the US; no DVD recorders that will play BluRay, let alone 3D; no disk recorders that record in anything higher than 480i; no disk recorders that output native HD even as tuner pass-through -- everything is 480i or up-converted 480i.

And there are none on the horizon, either.

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Simple answer is, no.

There are no BD-R recorders in the US; no DVD recorders that will play BluRay, let alone 3D; no disk recorders that record in anything higher than 480i; no disk recorders that output native HD even as tuner pass-through -- everything is 480i or up-converted 480i.

And there are none on the horizon, either.

what about JVC SR-HD1500US Blu-ray Disc & HDD Recorder OR Tascam BD-R2000.

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what about JVC SR-HD1500US Blu-ray Disc & HDD Recorder

Read the fine print on this unit's limitations.
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what about JVC SR-HD1500US Blu-ray Disc & HDD Recorder

$2300 Yikes!


Does it have nay high def input other then a camcorder connection?

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$2300 Yikes!


Does it have nay high def input other then a camcorder connection?

No, which really limits it's functionality
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The JVC is not a PVR as known to this forum. It is a glorified computer for those who do not want the hassle of learning computerease.

It still uses BNC which is TV production standard and has nothing to do with watching TV. If they had combined this with the PVR's about 6 years ago, it may have made sense. That is when I bought the camera that would have taken advantage of said features.
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thanks for the information..

I guess I will have to have 2 dvd players. My older sony recorder and a new 3d blu ray player.

Interestingly, I did a search and found Panasonic created a 3d blu ray recorder but it looks like it is only available in Japan..

http://www.itechnews.net/2010/02/22/...ray-recorders/

"Panasonic launches in Japan three new 3D Blu-ray recorders, the DMR-BWT3000 with 2TB internal hard drive, 1TB DMR-BWT2000 and 750GB DMR-BWT1000. All of them are equipped with dual digital tuner and 3D-capable Blu-ray player. These DIGA 3D Blu-ray recorders, other than record to internal hard drive, can burn recorded video to BD-R/RE, DVD-RAM, DVD-R/DL discs. They all have i.Link connector, Ethernet port, a SDXC card slot and VIERA Link support."

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Aw, Japan gets all the cool stuff......
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what about JVC SR-HD1500US Blu-ray Disc & HDD Recorder OR Tascam BD-R2000.

Seriously?

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Aw, Japan gets all the cool stuff......

Welcome to the 3rd world.

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what about JVC SR-HD1500US Blu-ray Disc & HDD Recorder OR Tascam BD-R2000.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc..._ray_Disc.html
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...u_Ray_DVD.html
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thanks for the suggestions.

Neither items are 3d thou..

Plus, they are high Dollar!!!!

Guess I will have to use my old sony recorder and a new non recorder blu ray 3d player..

thanks once again!

Hopefully the Panasonic units will show up in the states sometime in the near future!!!

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Hopefully the Panasonic units will show up in the states sometime in the near future!!!

Yeah, don't hold your breath. Japan has had plain vanilla Blu-ray recorders for years now and none have made it here (other than the uselessly hobbled and outrageously expensive models posted.) 3D capability ain't going to make any difference. People will just buy the cheapo 3D player model and use a DVR to record (very few Americans record anything for posterity anymore. We AVSers who do are a small minority largely ignored by electronics makers.)

I understand wanting to combine Blu-ray playback and recording (in any form) in one device, but so far the only device that does that and will do that for the foreseeable future is a PC.

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Here is another interesting announcment for the UK.
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Here is another interesting announcement for the UK.

Man, I wish they would have them available in the U.S.

DMR-BWT800/BWT700 (U.K. models) as well as the DMR-BWT3000/BWT2000/BWT1000 (Japan models) would fit the bill.

I would be happy to have any of those!

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....I would be happy to have any of those!

But probably not happy about the high prices I agree though it would be nice to have the option, unfortunately those are all 50hz(some might call PAL) recorders and would be all but useless in N. America where we use 60hz.
To rub even more salt in the wound, it's possible that they may play 60hz material on a 50hz TV but most definitely won't play 50hz material on our 60hz only TVs
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yeah.. I don't like the high prices for those units but at least if they had similar models in the U.S., it would be something.. Guess we are not that special!

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...no disk recorders that output native HD even as tuner pass-through...

Don't the Maggie 515s and their predecessors feed true HD digital TV signals by way of pass-thru to a TV set?
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Anything actually tuned by the Magnavox will be downrezed to 480i, which then may be upconverted to higher resolutions.
Of course RF bypass can contain HD which if your TV has a HD digital tuner can display in full HD.
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Man, I wish they would have them available in the U.S.

DMR-BWT800/BWT700 (U.K. models) as well as the DMR-BWT3000/BWT2000/BWT1000 (Japan models) would fit the bill.

I would be happy to have any of those!

Those of us who want t os ee these units in the US need to let Panasonic know -- it may not help to do so, but it certainly can't hurt.
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Those of us who want t os ee these units in the US need to let Panasonic know -- it may not help to do so, but it certainly can't hurt.

I guess we all think alike..

Last night, I went to panasonic website (http://www2.panasonic.com/consumer-e...t/Contact-Us.2) and filled out the form they have and asked them when any of those models or similar like models would be available in the U.S. I gave them the list of the Japan and UK models as reference.



Will wait and see what they say.

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Thanks everybody for your inputs. It is greatly appreciated.

I was thinking initially that I could just use one blu ray 3d recorder when I upgrade to 3d but now we all know that this option is not available in the U.S. so until the time when it is available, I will use 2 dvd units.. One (my old sony dvd recorder) and the other (the new 3d blu ray player).

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I was thinking initially that I could just use one blu ray 3d recorder when I upgrade to 3d but now we all know that this option is not available in the U.S. so until the time when it is available, I will use 2 dvd units.. One (my old sony dvd recorder) and the other (the new 3d blu ray player).

Very wise, because that time never will be.
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Since affordable blue ray recorders will not be available in the U.S. in the near future, and good DVD recorders are no longer available, would a PC with a blue ray drive work? I mean taking the output of a set top box (e.g. Comcast, DirecTV), or from a blue ray player or DVD player, and input it to a PC with a built-in blue ray drive. Are there systems out there doing this? I've a DirecTV High Def DVR and the disk is getting full, and my old Panasonic DVR is dying so I can't copy anything out of the DVR anymore. Thanks!
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Just to follow up on this thread.

I got an email from Panasonic to contact their support line (1-800-405-0652) and once I got a Panasonic representative on the phone, I told him of my interest in a 3d blu ray recorder and I gave him the model numbers for the units in Japan and the U.K.models and he said right now Panasonic is not selling in the U.S. but if they get consumer desire for the units, they will release them. He recommended me and for all those interested to send mail to ---> consumerproducts09@us.panasonic.com


The representative from Panasonic said if enough interest is there, Panasonic will release a lower line verson of the 3d blu ray recorder as a test to see if it will sell..

So, I say, it is worth a shot. A few min to type an email to the above mentioned email address ...

Just give them the U.K and Japan models and state you are interested in a U.S. equivalent version..



you never know...

I sent my email..

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Since affordable blue ray recorders will not be available in the U.S. in the near future, and good DVD recorders are no longer available...

What about the Magnavox 513/515H?

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...would a PC with a blue ray drive work? I mean taking the output of a set top box (e.g. Comcast, DirecTV), or from a blue ray player or DVD player, and input it to a PC with a built-in blue ray drive. Are there systems out there doing this? I've a DirecTV High Def DVR and the disk is getting full, and my old Panasonic DVR is dying so I can't copy anything out of the DVR anymore. Thanks!

Yes, look here:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/forumdisplay.php?f=26
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It's as good a plan as any. Although I think they would want to see hundreds of thousands if not millions of potential buyers before they would even think of selling them here. Not to be a doubting Thomas but recorders in general do not sell well. DVRs have taken most of the market.

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It's as good a plan as any. Although I think they would want to see hundreds of thousands if not millions of potential buyers before they would even think of selling them here. Not to be a doubting Thomas but recorders in general do not sell well. DVRs have taken most of the market.

I agree.



I don't have much hope but at least I can say, I tried..


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Here's a thought:

How about we merge this thread with all the other "Are There Any/How Come There Aren't Any/Will There Ever Be Any Blu-Ray Recorders?" threads that have come up at least once every couple of weeks for the last couple of years?
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