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post #31 of 140 Old 01-19-2012, 09:27 PM
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I am sorry I don't see a point of discs. Most people record watch delete. Why would you want discs? Also every system in the us is different (cable, satellite, atsc). Most people don't use atsc (I do though). I use a hdhomerun. What's wrong with that? I have a 1TB hdd for saving my recordings. I can even export my recordings.

Do you have HDMI inputs?
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post #32 of 140 Old 01-19-2012, 09:37 PM
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Do you have HDMI inputs?

All my connections are through hdmi?
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I am sorry I don't see a point of discs. Most people record watch delete. Why would you want discs? Also every system in the us is different (cable, satellite, atsc). Most people don't use atsc (I do though). I use a hdhomerun. What's wrong with that? I have a 1TB hdd for saving my recordings. I can even export my recordings.

Add to that that you're never going to be able to record to a standalone Blu-ray recorder in the US in anything higher than 480i-only over composite, other than personal, HD camcorder footage, anyway.
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I currently have a total of 12 Magnavox 2160 and Philips 3276 HDD/DVD recorders that are now around three years old (fortunately still going strong). I would definitely update my collection if more up-to-date hardware was available.

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I am sorry I don't see a point of discs. Most people record watch delete. Why would you want discs? Also every system in the us is different (cable, satellite, atsc). Most people don't use atsc (I do though).

Because without the ability to burn disks you are simply talking about an HD DVR -- and the DVR market is already well served with TiVo ($600) or CM-7400 ($400) or any of the provider DVR's. As to the point of it, there are still some people who like to burn lots of disks of the stuff without having to involve a PC.

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Dear Walmart, this is a Concept of what we want:

TIA.

Looks pretty. What's the price tag.

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Already have a 3575 and a 513, both shelved until ATSC signals are strong enough in my area (redistribution tower issue in cottage country, Canuckland). I would get 2 of those proposed ones, burner is a must, I like to watch, erase also but once in a while I like to "collect", old school I guess !!!
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Heck yes. I would buy at least two if it came with Blu-ray support.
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I am sorry I don't see a point of discs. Most people record watch delete. Why would you want discs?

I think you might have missed which forum this is.

You're right in that the majority of people just record/watch/delete. That's what killed most DVD recorders. But since there is at least one recorder still on the market, the idea was to expand upon what it does. Progress and all.

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All my connections are through hdmi?

Sorry, I just was wondering if your hdhomerun has HDMI or component inputs, since the few models that I know doesn't (for now).
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Looks pretty. What's the price tag.

It doesn't exist!

I'm sure you already knew that, but in case anyones desperately searching the web for this "prototype" they should stop immediately. The image is a very well-done (kudos to profhat!) PhotoShop composite of the front panel of a JVC semi-pro BD/HDD recorder and the back panel of a "questionable" new Hong Kong-specific hard drive-only HDTV recorder with multiple HDMI inputs (as well as HDMI output). The odds of a major consumer brand name actually marketing a HiDef recorder in North America with HDMI inputs are slim to none.

Perhaps an electronics engineer could meld the two units together as shown in the photo, to make a single functional fantasy recorder. If that were possible, the total cost of the two machines would be approx $3000, plus the labor cost to join them. Anyone up for a challenge?
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Heh, I have visions of a homebrew BD recorder club.

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HuzzAH!

I used to post under another name, but I was/am a big proponent of this. I was one of the first on here with the Polaroid DVR (and returned) and still use my 3575. I am glad to see the quest for the holy grail is still alive and well
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I want this as well, and I want Wal-Mart to sell this in their Canadian stores as well! Pretty please!

This is the type of device that has a niche market, which right now pretty much only Wal-Mart provides. So they have to make a deal with Funai to keep improving this device, making it BD compatible etc. Definately at least continue producing/selling the current generation.
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It doesn't exist!

I'm sure you already knew that . . .

Actually, I didn't. I thought he was being sincere.
It does look pretty though.
I guess if they can photoshop lingerie models, they can photoshop BD recorders.

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Heh, I have visions of a homebrew BD recorder club.

Its called a HTPC

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Its called a HTPC

You know what I mean, wiseguy.

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Perhaps an electronics engineer could meld the two units together as shown in the photo, to make a single functional fantasy recorder. If that were possible, the total cost of the two machines would be approx $3000, plus the labor cost to join them. Anyone up for a challenge?

I'm sure that if they could get it down to the $1000 than any past, standalone Blu-ray recording deck has actually cost, the people in this thread would scarf 'em up like crazy.
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I'm sure that if they could get it down to the $1000 than any past, standalone Blu-ray recording deck has actually cost, the people in this thread would scarf 'em up like crazy.

I still think CitiBear's proposal is the most practical and could be the most cost effective. Scrap the BD-R burning and do AVCHD on DVD-R and DVD DL. Put in a hardware H.264 transcoder, like in the Hauppage units, to convert the input on the fly from MPEG-2 with a couple profiles for SD and HD content. Add a firewire port to handle HD camcorder input and you have a winner. I'll bet you could come in under $500.

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Just picked up a refurb 515 from J&R to join my V2160 in the stable. August 2011 build with 727V firmware installed. Skip 079 shows two (count 'em, 2) hours on the HDD! My 2160 had about 600 hours when I got that. Both work like champs. Love them and would love to see them continue being made. Will spend the money. Will promote this to others. Will name my grandson 515h! Or Funai.
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I'm sure that if they could get it down to the $1000 than any past, standalone Blu-ray recording deck has actually cost, the people in this thread would scarf 'em up like crazy.

I remember paying at least that much for VCRs (and even my first audio CD player) back in the 80s, and I have more money now than I did then.
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Count me in.

I would happily release the moths from my wallet for an updated version of this unique and versatile product. I dread seeing them completely discontinued.

My two 515's are great.
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Thank you Walmart for providing this product at a reasonable price.

Many of us do not have cable and like to record various OTA programs. Without the 515 or 513 we would be lost. At times we will record 3 programs at the same time. We previously did this with VCR's. Now VCR's are going by the wayside and all of a sudden there are not very many DVD ATSC receiver recorders out there. Most of which do not offer many features needed to do OTA flexible recording.

We all hope that Walmart and other distributors of HDD ATSC encourage mfg's like Funia to mfg and improve their products and continue to support ATSC.

After following the AVS forum's Magnavox thread started by Wajo we have recently bought from Walmart 2 515's and 1 513...The 513 has all the upgrades to make it like the 515...We are happy campers...

Many thanks to Wajo and others including Funia in continuing to support this like of products

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Dear Wal Mart.....I have purchased five of your DVD/HD recorders (the 513) and have just submitted an order for a sixth (the 515). Please continue supplying these devices or something similar, as they have been a huge help to or organization in terms of documenting television programming.

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Our Mag 2160A has been a great recorder, tenacious in tough multipath conditions, and a terrific upgrade from VCR. I hope these products continue to be available, the features improve with each model. I particularly like variable 0.8/1.3 speed, skip a timer event, custom labeling of timers, flexibility in the skip forward/back keys, and the ease of editing and saving to disc. It is a unique product, and I'd really love to see an HD version, with at least 2 tuners.
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Yes I would buy this.
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I am really in the need for such a spec'd machine and would buy without hesitation.

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Just remember, flexibility comes at a price: Complexity.

I wouldn't give a nickle, well, maybe $50, until they come up with a non-destructive edit capability able to easily combine multiple times from any title(s) on the hdd, like the Panasonic PLAYLIST feature. If they did that, and retained the inexpensive and easy replacement of the hdd and dvd drive, might be willing to push 4 digits.
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Hello Walmart,

I too would like the described machines. I would like to move up to Blue Ray capacity and quality.

I have two of the predecessor machines, one a ship-to-store from Walmart. A purchase avenue that has worked very well for my family in the past.

Thanks for your consideration and willingness to work with these may requesters.

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