This might be a stupid question but I will ask any way. Since I high speed dub everything to my Panny E500H dvd recorder HD and then to a JVC TY 8x dvd-r. I decided to high speed dub to a Panny DVD-RAM disc. Or course I was able to but you can't finalize the disc as far as I can tell. I was able to play the dvd-ram disc on my computer's dvd burner. Then I tried to rip the dvd-ram disc using say dvd decrypter or some other dvd ripping software as a ISO file. But when I burnt the ISO file back to a dvd-r and tried to play it on the Panny Dvd Recorder, dvd or Blu-ray player it would recognize the dvd-r disc. I am sure it was because it was never finalized in the Panny Dvd Recorder. Is there a way to rip the whole disc and then burn it to dvd-r and make it compatible to play on standard dvd players.