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I want to buy my parents a new DVD player with recording - live tv (or time programmable), possibly with a hard drive (or not). I want to keep the unit they have now, so they can watch their VHS movies. *The attachment shows the way they are set up currently to watch and record on their Sony DVD player/VHS recorder. The have a Samsung LED LCD UN40D6000. They also have Comcast cable, basic setup. Can the new DVD recorders record off of just the HDMI cable, or does it have to be hooked up with a cable line and HDMI?
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The answer to your question about recording off of the HDMI, the short answer is no. You can thank the thugs at RIAA & Hollywood. Same with trying to record off of Component. Now of course, if you get them a TiVo series 3, or build a DVR out of a computer, and use Cablecards, you can then record programs that way.
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Yes, they can record with a DVD recorder, like the Magnavox 513 w/HDD, by connecting the incoming cable coax (now on the VHS) to the ANT IN on the Mag, then coax out from the Mag to their TV. They also need a "line connection" to the TV, like HDMI, to see internal stuff from the Mag (menus, channels, titles, etc.).

If their TV doesn't have a tuner, they can use the Mag as the tuner and won't need the coax to the TV.

See Sketch 2 here and the many words that describe this connection scheme, how to incorp. the VHS for copying tapes, watching one channel with the TV's tuner while recording a diff. channel with the Mag's tuner, etc., etc.

Lots more info if you click the Help File Index button on the linked page.
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How about this?

http://www.crutchfield.com/p_659CM74...r_dvr&skipvs=T

If you get it, how about coming back with a review? Thanks.

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Is this a relapse?

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...5#post21758425

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Generally you can always regard HDMI output as 'non recordable' without special/expensive/non everyday and possibly illegal equiment. HDMI 'input' connections are generally only found on TV's and AV recievers and possibly on computers ( i dont know much about the latest PC's) No DVD recorders that i am aware of accept a HDMI 'in' to record from HDMI but many will have a HDMI 'out' to output whats playing/recieved on the tuner and display it on a TV/screen.

If you are looking for a DVD recorder to replace VHS, time is running out of you want a decent brand new one, you are even more limited if you need a US tuner in the DVD recorder.
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Ever since the phase out of component outputs on Bluray players, you are also beginning to see a scarcity of component inputs on TVs and other equipment as well.
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How about this?

http://www.crutchfield.com/p_659CM74...r_dvr&skipvs=T

If you get it, how about coming back with a review? Thanks.

No inputs except for RF.

Boasts a QAM cable tuner, but what's the use if you can't also record off your cable box?

Sheesh! You'd think they'd at least include a cable card slot.



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Is this a relapse?

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...5#post21758425

In that one he seemed more interested in figuring out how to hook components together, with a little bit of "and what new recorder can I buy them?"

Guess this is part two?
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And i am even having a hard time finding TV's with S-video input too.
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Can the new DVD recorders record off of just the HDMI cable, or does it have to be hooked up with a cable line and HDMI?

If you need to record content from HDMI (with HD picture, 5,1 DD sound, etc) then you will need a good HTPC or if you still are old school, import a MagicTV 7000D, then burn the records to a Blue Ray.

HTPC forum: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/forumdisplay.php?f=26

7000D info thread: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1353038
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What about something like this? No hard drive, but much cheaper. I don't see the cable coax though.
http://www.amazon.com/Toshiba-DR430K...3918323&sr=1-1
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Do you recommend a unit that is programmable but doesn't have a hard drive and has cable coax and HDMI?
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What about something like this? No hard drive, but much cheaper. I don't see the cable coax though.
http://www.amazon.com/Toshiba-DR430K...3918323&sr=1-1

That model doesn't have a tuner. That's why there is no coax cable connection.

Use the yellow video input (or S-Video input) and white/red audio inputs when recording from the corresponding outputs from a cable converter box.

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