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post #211 of 220 Old 05-19-2015, 10:07 AM
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... very much like watching the old Shatner/Nimoy StarTrek episodes.
The Twilight Zone - Nightmare at 20,000 Feet was on Decades earlier today. That's the one with William Shatner as an airline passenger that sees a monster on the wing. His acting was pretty good in that one.
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The Twilight Zone - Nightmare at 20,000 Feet was on Decades earlier today. That's the one with William Shatner as an airline passenger that sees a monster on the wing. His acting was pretty good in that one.
Was that the one with the gremlin on the wing pulling open the engine compartment to sabotage the prop?

I remember that one. It ended up with Shatner breaking the plane window and hanging out of the compartment while shooting the gremlin? I remember the ending -- no one believed him and as they took him away mumbling on a stretcher the camera panned to the side of the plane where you could see gremlin guts smeared along the fuselage back towards the tail fin.

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Was that the one with the gremlin on the wing pulling open the engine compartment to sabotage the prop?

I remember that one. It ended up with Shatner breaking the plane window and hanging out of the compartment while shooting the gremlin? I remember the ending -- no one believed him and as they took him away mumbling on a stretcher the camera panned to the side of the plane where you could see gremlin guts smeared along the fuselage back towards the tail fin.

Classic.
That's the one. They didn't show any guts on the plane but you could see the engine cowling was torn open at the end. Maybe the gremlin guts was shown in The Twilight Zone move. They used that episode in the movie with John Lithgow playing the role William Shatner had in the TV show.
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That's the one. They didn't show any guts on the plane but you could see the engine cowling was torn open at the end.
Really?
What about the propeller.
Did they show a front shot of the propeller with smeared gremlin on it?

I hope my memory is not that far off.

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Really?
What about the propeller.
Did they show a front shot of the propeller with smeared gremlin on it?

I hope my memory is not that far off.
No, they didn't show that. Maybe it was originally there and Decades cut it?
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The last time I saw that episode it wasn't on Decades; I think it was in one of the annual The Twilight Zone marathons that Syfy runs every New Year's Eve/Day. (If not that, maybe on MeTV, which has a weekday evening slot for the show.) Guts of the monster were not shown, but the cowling over the engine was shown as being ripped up. Also, my recollection is that William Shatner shot towards the monster, the monster stood up, apparently in surprise rather than being seriously injured, and jumped off the wing. (Mistaken memories; see post 220).

So, if my memory is accurate, there would have never been opportunity for the monster to leave any of his guts on the wing.

Also, in those days guts were generally not shown during prime time, back in the days when the FCC paid a lot of attention to community decency standards. If Jeannie on I Dream of Jeannie couldn't show her belly button, guts would have certainly been out of the question!

So I seriously doubt that Decades had censored out what could have been a gory shot.

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It was more a smeared stain than actual discernible guts.

In either event, I must be confusing the episode with something else.

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The Twilight Zone, S 5, E 3, "Nightmare at 20,000 Feet", original air date: October 11, 1963. (IMDB)

Episode video: http://www.imdb.com/video/hulu/vi417...tt_pv_vi_aiv_2

I was mistaken.

It looks like the beast did stand up when Shatner opened the "auxiliary exit" (the window exit) and Shatner stuck his head, arms, and chest out the exit. It looks like Shatner shot the monster twice the the monster put its paw over the presumed penetration point after each shot, and then fell back and off the wing. In that sequence, there was no opportunity for the monster's guts or blood to get on the cowling or any other spot on the wing.

The part of the cowling bent up had a lot of discoloration, maybe from the beast having spent time digging into the engine.

Prime time in 1963 was still in the age of no belly buttons and married people slept in separate beds. Color wouldn't arrive for another two years. The V-Chip wouldn't be in the US televisions for another 36 years. It would be over 40 years before legislation was passed to start the Digital TV transition, almost 46 years from the original airing until full-powered TV stations were required to switch completely over to ATSC (digital) transmissions, and we are still not finished with the digital transition yet. (Low-powered TV stations and translators have until September 1, 2015, to stop NTSC (analog) TV transmissions.)

And yet there are a number of beloved The Twilight Zone episodes that do a better job at story telling than many shows on the air today. (My tastes are actually slanted more towards Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea (which started in B&W but by second season was in color) and Columbo (which was always in color, but with the drab settings and night scenes one could be forgiven for thinking that some episodes were in B&W).)

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