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View Poll Results: If you were in my shoes, and wanted to record NFL games from a DirecTV DVR, whose DVD recorder would
PANASONIC 1 100.00%
PYE 0 0%
DAEWOO 0 0%
TOSHIBA 0 0%
SYLVANIA 0 0%
PHILIPS 0 0%
MAGNAVOX 0 0%
LG 0 0%
SONY 0 0%
SAMSUNG 0 0%
WAL-MART 0 0%
BEST BUY 0 0%
NEW EGG (HAVEN'T CHECKED THEM YET) 0 0%
TIGER DIRECT (HAVEN'T CHECKED THEM YET) 0 0%
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ANOTHER STORE 0 0%
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Hello everyone. Just spent several hours on a post, then forgot to copy and paste before I posted, just in case, and then lost the whole &^@!$*&^%#! thing. One of these days I will learn. Here's a shorter version:

I have the following setup right now:
DVR model= HR24-200 with HDMI, S-Video, and red/blue/green RCA's out.
Another receiver, model= H25-100, with the same outs.
2 ancient TVs, one with only RCA's in connected to the DVR, and the other with RCA's and S-Video in, no HDMI. The 2nd one doubles as a computer monitor.

I would like to leave them as such, but this is not essential. Do I need a TV with HDMI to do the recording? Seems like I shouldn't. BTW, I have 2 HDMI cables, but they are pretty short.

What specs do I need to look for in a DVD recorder?

Do I need HDMI to record HD? Can someone explain upscaling and the other "up"?

In the last post I listed over 20 links to units on sale on Craigslist, and elsewhere online, with prices and a majority of model numbers, but I will have to reconstitute this later and add it to the thread. I read a number of posts by DigaDo which I found helpful. He seems to dig the Panasonics, but so far I have only found 1 used one. I seem to be gravitating to the Toshibas, but really have no logic for this.

Right now the DVR is full. What I want to do is first record the NFL games I have on there on DVDs. They are in HD, but I think for the future there is a non-HD option I can choose if I have to. The NFL games I'm referring to have been condensed from the typical 3-hour length to 1/2-hour programs. If they were unavailable in non-HD, I would like the ability to edit before recording to the DVD, but I have a hard time imagining that this is the case. Nevertheless, it would be a nice feature to have, albeit not as high of a priority. Here are my priorities in selecting the right model for me:

1. That it functions as described above.
2. That it records in HD, unless somehow the TVs prevent it. I may buy an HDTV from one of the Craigslist people who is selling one cheap tomorrow.
3. The ability to edit.
4. Reliability/longevity.
5. Price. I would like to spend less than $100, since I am currently unemployed, although I would stretch the budget a little for a decent warrantee.
6. Other cool features, such as the ability to also connect to a computer, the internet, a camcorder, or a digital camera/memory card; to record single frames of video from TV programming, etc. This would be something I would choose only if all other things are relatively equal, or if it only cost a bit more.

Thanks for the read. I will follow this up with prices, makes and model #'s, and links to available units in my area with pictures, and whether the units are new/refurbished/used. Below I am attempting to add on a survey which has all the makes I have discovered are available to me.
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You CAN record hi definition content from a sat box or STB, depending on the hookup, but at best it will be in 480i resolution. The recordings should still be very good, they just won't be in high definition. Your STB or source signal has to be able to transmit the hi-def content via component, S video or composite- -not all do. NOTE--If you have a Directv Hi def box (and this may apply to other STBs) you need to manually SET the Directv box to output at 480i OR YOU WILL NOT GET A SIGNAL WHEN YOU HOOK IT UP TO A DVD RECORDER!

Squonk said this in '05. Should I assume that this is still true today? If so, I understand now that it is DAD from the DVR to the DVD recorder, but via what component, and what is composite? How do I manually set my DirecTV box to output at 480i?

I got through about 5% of the 585 posts in the above-quoted thread about the inability to record HD content. Has anything changed since 2005? Maybe it's time for a new sticky for us newbs.
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Can I edit a poll somehow, or do I have to remove it and recreate it?

I tried to edit my poll, but when I do it only gives me the option to delete it, and I would like to add Memorex, Pioneer, and RCA to the answers. Help!confused.gif
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I'm now recreating this list of links to DVD recorders for sale. I'd appreciate any input on which one(s) I should consider. I wouldn't mind the kind with a VCR, but that is not a main consideration (falls into priority #6 in first post). BTW, "upconversion is the term I was searching for in the 1st post. How does that work? Some of these are probably not actual DVD recorders, but my search for that term turned them up. I've added ?'s to anything in question. There are almost always pictures that may help someone identify the unit in question. I hope for some good recommendations, but almost as valuable is any feedback that will eliminate a number of these units from consideration. Also, so you know, I'm a very accomplished haggler, so don't eliminate a choice solely on the basis of price. Thanks in advance.


Craigslist

$10 Philips??? + $40 for Philips TV that might have HDMI (I talked to her last night and plan on maybe getting both for $45. Either way, I might get this recorder in addition to another one. I figure the worst that can happen is I'm out $10. Will update.)
http://inlandempire.craigslist.org/ele/3181782012.html

$20 DAEWOO DVR07
http://inlandempire.craigslist.org/ele/3143316259.html

$20 Pioneer???
http://inlandempire.craigslist.org/emd/3135802278.html

$25 Toshiba D-VR4
http://sandiego.craigslist.org/nsd/ele/3189908854.html

$25 PYE???
http://inlandempire.craigslist.org/ele/3194706317.html

$30 Sylvania???
http://inlandempire.craigslist.org/ele/3188446547.html

$40 Memorex 530LE (I talked with this guy, and he assured me this would work for my purposes, but I'm skeptical. Was I right to be?)
http://sandiego.craigslist.org/nsd/bar/3174530550.html

$50 '09 Magnavox DV22OMW9
http://sandiego.craigslist.org/nsd/ele/3202262374.html

$50 Sony VRD-MC5
http://inlandempire.craigslist.org/ele/3167782990.html

$60 SONY RDR-GX7
http://inlandempire.craigslist.org/ele/3125466301.html

$65 Panasonic DMR-ES35R
http://inlandempire.craigslist.org/ele/3188928114.html

$80 LG??? (No remote, but it looks brand new---someone can probably guess the model here for sure)
http://sandiego.craigslist.org/nsd/ele/3199071198.html

$95 Sony DVD Video Recorder VRD-MC1 (I talked to this guy. He also thought it would work for my purposes. Somehow I'm more inclined to believe him.)
http://sandiego.craigslist.org/nsd/ele/3129996319.html

$??? LG DVD recorder/VHS recorder???
http://inlandempire.craigslist.org/gms/3180159919.html

$??? ($1 for "stereo system"---look at picture, please---I can't even tell for sure which is the recorder)
http://inlandempire.craigslist.org/bar/3189159165.html

$??? ($199 for "home theater system") Sony DVD player/video cassette recorder SLV-D100 (not a recorder?)
http://inlandempire.craigslist.org/eld/3151836175.html

$??? ($500 OBO for "HOME THEATER SYSTEM") TOSHIBA DVD PLAYER & VHS RECORDER? (not a recorder?)
http://inlandempire.craigslist.org/ele/3175768780.html




As if that wasn't enough, here are a number of other recorders I found elsewhere online. Please note that I note whether each unit in this list is new, refurbished, or used. Except for the Wal-Mart devices, the price does not include shipping as far as I am aware, unless noted. In each instance, tax is not included either to my knowledge. I have a budget of $100, but I would be willing to stretch it a bit if I got a decent warrantee out of it, or if it allowed me to get more than one recorder worth purchasing. I figure the worst that could happen is I turn around and sell the one I didn't like. Also, did I remember something about the Toshiba DR420 being better than the DR430 for some reason?


$57.27 Toshiba DR430 New babyspot
http://baby-spot.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=1516

$69.98 Toshiba DR430 Refurbished Wal-Mart
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Toshiba-Refurbished-DVD-Recorder-DR430/20461468

$92.85 Toshiba DR430 New Wal-Mart
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Toshiba-DR430-DVD-Recorder/16617614?findingMethod=rr

$64.99 Toshiba DR430 Refurbished TECHCRAZY
http://www.techcrazy.net/Toshiba-DR430-DVD-Recorder-p/tos-dr430rb.htm

$77.99 Toshiba DR430 New TECHCRAZY
http://www.techcrazy.net/Toshiba-DR430-DVD-Recorder-p/TOS-DR430(NEW).htm

$69.95 Toshiba DR420 Refurbished TECHCRAZY
http://www.techcrazy.net/Toshiba-DR420-HDMI-Output-with-1080p-Upconversion-p/toshibadr420.htm

$79.95 RCA DRC8335 Refurbished TECHCRAZY
http://www.techcrazy.net/RCA-DRC8335-DVD-Recorder-VCR-Combo-p/rcadrc8335dvdrecorder.htm

$49.88 Magnavox ZC320MW8 Refurbished Wal-Mart
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Magnavox-ZC320MW8/17281655?findingMethod=rr

$98.88 Magnavox ZC320MW8B New Wal-Mart
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Magnavox-ZC320MW8B-DVD-Recorder-with-Line-In-Recording/17337718?findingMethod=rr

$69 Samsung DVD-VR375 (no remote) Used eBay
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-DVD-VR375-DVD-Recorder-VCR-HDMI-NO-REMOTE-/251128242631?_trksid=p3284.m263&_trkparms=algo%3DSIC%26its%3DI%26itu%3DUCI%252BUA%252BP%252BFICS%252BUFI%252BIIUM%26otn%3D4%26pmod%3D140822589505%26ps%3D54#ht_500wt_948


If you are reading this, you must really care. I will try to pay it forward, or if there is something I can do for you, let me know. In any case, heaps of gratitude to all who help the ignorant.

Sincerely,

Jeff (AKA The DVD Dolt)
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$49.88 Magnavox ZC320MW8 Refurbished Wal-Mar
$98.88 Magnavox ZC320MW8B New Wal-Mart

I would use one of these, the Toshibas go from a 2 hr speed to a 4 hr speed and the PQ at 4 is pretty bad. The Maggies have a 2, 2.5, and a 3 hr speed.
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$49.88 Magnavox ZC320MW8 Refurbished Wal-Mar
$98.88 Magnavox ZC320MW8B New Wal-Mart

I would use one of these, the Toshibas go from a 2 hr speed to a 4 hr speed and the PQ at 4 is pretty bad. The Maggies have a 2, 2.5, and a 3 hr speed.
This is good DVD Recorder advice for a newbie. These are good entry level tunerless DVD Recorders for use with cable or satellite converter boxes or other tuners.

In my opinion the only interesting model in the OP's list is the 2006 Panasonic DMR-ES35 combo recorder. I have six DMR-ES35 models that are still functional. A DMR-ES35 found in the second hand marketplace is usually at or near the end of it's useful life. (Of course I have a number of Panasonic parts machines on hand so that I might service and repair my own Panasonics. Panasonics of 2005-2006 vintage are to be preferred to the 2007 and later models of the EZ series. I've junked most of my Panasonic EZ series recorders, only one still remaing in service.)

Many on the OP's list are oldies, probably well beyond their useful lives.

There are many horror stories to be found in these pages concerning DVD Recorders from such brands as LG, RCA, Samsung and Sony. And Daewoo, was there ever such a DVD Recorder?

In the following thread I've given advice for those looking at Craig's List for DVD Recorders from Panasonic and the various Funai brands, (Philips, Magnavox, Sylvania, Toshiba, Emerson, PYE, TruTech and Symphonic, etc):

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1281815/panasonic-recorders-on-craig-s-list-some-advice/0_60
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Squonk said this in '05. Should I assume that this is still true today? ... but via what component, and what is composite?

Squonk's original 2005 information is just as true today as it was seven years ago. DVD Recorders record in Standard Definition, not High Definition.

Component connections are the Blue, Green and Red video plus the White and Red audio. Composite connections are Yellow video plus White and Red audio. When using a S-Video connection it must be used with White and Red audio connections.
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Thanks, DigaDo. I had read your thread before on Panasonics, and I hope to find the scripts you provided useful. Can you speak to HDMI ins/outs as a criterion by which I might begin to finalize my decision? I am thinking I might pick up 2 different ones if it fits the budget.
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$49.88 Magnavox ZC320MW8 Refurbished Wal-Mar
$98.88 Magnavox ZC320MW8B New Wal-Mart
I would use one of these, the Toshibas go from a 2 hr speed to a 4 hr speed and the PQ at 4 is pretty bad. The Maggies have a 2, 2.5, and a 3 hr speed.

Totally agree: of the limited choices still available, these are the best one can do buying from a retailer with a return policy The specified budget of under $100 is unfortunately too low to buy what is really needed here, which would be a Magnavox MDR513 refurb DVD/HDD recorder (assuming they start turning up again at J&R in the next month or so for $169 after the replacement model 533 hits WalMart).

DO NOT even consider buying a used DVD recorder from random people on Craigs List. While it is true you might find a great deal on a really good recorder in mint condition, the odds are against you. Most DVD recorders being dumped into the second-hand market are on the verge of breaking down or already getting wonky. Unless you've been using DVD recorders for years, know what the best brands/models are to risk second hand, and know how to repair them, you could make a huge mistake. If you're unemployed and losing $50 on a paperweight would really hurt you, don't mess around. DVD recorders are not durable the way VCRs are: you can buy a 1997 Panasonic VCR for $15 on Craigs List that will still be operational ten years from now, but a DVD recorder made before last year usually has one foot in the grave and the other on a banana peel. There's a reason hardly any DVD recorders are available new in stores anymore: they're a pain to use, engineered to self-destruct within two years, and only worth bothering with for hard-core video collectors. The exceptions were very expensive new and sought-after rarities today: they change hands for more than $300.

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What specs do I need to look for in a DVD recorder?

In your budget range you don't have anything in the way of choice, so forget "specs" for now. The most important "spec" is you buy it from a store selling like-new "refurbished" recorders. Refurbished just means someone bought it, took one look at the complicated instruction book, passed out in a cold sweat of confusion, and returned it the next day for a refund. As the largest retailer of discount electronics in the country, WalMart has tons of these. Choose one of the two suggested by joed32 above.

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Do I need HDMI to record HD? Can someone explain upscaling and the other "up"?

You can't record in HD to any DVD recorder: only to a PC. The HDMI connection in DVD recorders is strictly for single-wire convenient hookup to modern TVs, which now have like five HDMI sockets but only one (if you're lucky) analog connection. "Upscaling" just means the HDMI output of the DVD recorder tries to make the recordings look a little less crummy so that they play better on a flatscreen, all of which are optimized exclusively to display flawless full HDTV signals only. They look like crap displaying standard-def DVDs: you are in for a big shock when you switch to an LCD or plasma TV from your current glass picture-tube TVs. Any HDTV you buy will automatically "upscale" standard-def videos to look as good as possible, but you can often improve this by adjusting the upscaler settings in the DVD player/recorder. Some lower settings can look better than the highest.

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In the last post I listed over 20 links to units on sale on Craigslist, and elsewhere online, with prices and a majority of model numbers, but I will have to reconstitute this later and add it to the thread. I read a number of posts by DigaDo which I found helpful. He seems to dig the Panasonics, but so far I have only found 1 used one. I seem to be gravitating to the Toshibas, but really have no logic for this.

Nearly every Pansaonic coming onto Craigs List is being sold because the DVD drive has seemingly "died." This is a common problem with Panasonics: they attract dirt and grease to their DVD mechanism, which then can't spin a disc properly. 75% of these Panasonics can be cured by disassembly and cleaning, but 25% are really truly dead for good because of a fried laser. Identifying one problem from the other requires familiarity, which you don't have, and willingness to attempt DIY repairs. Toshibas are tricky: the "original" models made before 2007 were very high quality but very unreliable and can no longer be repaired, while more recent models are essentially identical to similar Magnavox models that roll out of the same factory. These are reasonably reliable if not abused, but the Magnavox version often has more recording speeds to choose from and is available much cheaper. If you like the Toshibas, skip used and just buy a refurb Magnavox from WalMart.

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Right now the DVR is full. What I want to do is first record the NFL games I have on there on DVDs. They are in HD, but I think for the future there is a non-HD option I can choose if I have to. The NFL games I'm referring to have been condensed from the typical 3-hour length to 1/2-hour programs. If they were unavailable in non-HD, I would like the ability to edit before recording to the DVD, but I have a hard time imagining that this is the case. Nevertheless, it would be a nice feature to have, albeit not as high of a priority.

Convenient editing on DVD is not possible unless you're willing to spend a lot more money for DVD/HDD recorder. These would let you copy the games to their internal HDD, easily edit them, then copy to DVD at high speed (like a PC can do). Alternately, if you had a PC with video inputs, you could do the project on your computer. But budget recorders record directly onto a DVD in real time: the only editing you can do is hit the pause button, like a VCR from 1979. All DVD recorders are standard def, if you want HiDef you need the right accessories to turn your PC into a recorder and a BluRay player to play the non-standard AVCHD dvds you would need to make (or BluRay discs).

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Here are my priorities in selecting the right model for me:
1. That it functions as described above.

Can't get all features mentioned within your budget, and HDTV requires a PC.

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2. That it records in HD, unless somehow the TVs prevent it. I may buy an HDTV from one of the Craigslist people who is selling one cheap tomorrow.

Can't dub off your DirecTV in HD quality to a DVD recorder, only to PC.

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3. The ability to edit.

See above. Simple budget DVD recorders only have "pause" as an editing feature. If you use DVD+RW discs, you have a little more flexibility, but erasable discs are more expensive and not as good for long-term storage.

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4. Reliability/longevity.

Forget it if you buy used. If you buy a refurb Magnavox from a dealer, figure it will last three years. Six years is possible but unpredictable.

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5. Price. I would like to spend less than $100, since I am currently unemployed, although I would stretch the budget a little for a decent warrantee.

Get one of the Magnavox refurbs at WalMart that were suggested by joed32 and DigaDo.

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6. Other cool features, such as the ability to also connect to a computer, the internet, a camcorder, or a digital camera/memory card; to record single frames of video from TV programming, etc. .

Single frames from TV don't come out clear. The only DVD recorders that could connect to a computer were discontinued by 2008, and were none too reliable at PC connection. None connected to the internet, like a BluRay player does. Some more-expensive DVD recorders have USB that can import MP3 files, JPEGs, and some DiVX files from a thumbdrive, a DV/FireWire port to attach a camcorder, and a card slot to play JPEGs from a digital camera. None of these connections will accept video digitally from your DirecTV box or a computer: they're strictly limited to your own camcorder videos. Dubbing from DirecTV can only be via standard-def analog video outputs (yellow cable for video, red+white cables for L+R stereo audio). Dubbing from a computer requires the same analog connections, these days one usually needs an adapter for the computer output that costs as much as a cheap DVD recorder. You're better off burning discs of computer videos in the computer itself.

The only recorder still available new that comes closest to having all the features you want is the Panasonic DMR-EH69 import model. It costs upwards of $400 from B&H Photo.
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Here's a list of like-new or used recorders I've purchased through Craig's List in 2009 and 2010:

4/19/2009 Panasonic DMR-ES46V VHS/DVD combo recorder (2006) $20 (didn't power on, purchased as parts machine, swapped like-new DVD Drive and Digital PCB into a DMR-ES35V parts machine to return that recorder to functionality--ES35 has been in daily use since then; this ES46 is currently a parts machine)
4/29/2009 Sylvania ZV450SL8 VHS/DVD combo recorder (2007) $45 (QAM tuner problematic, ATSC tuner OK, otherwise OK, given to relative)
6/20/2009 Magnavox ZV450MW8A VHS/DVD combo recorder (2008) $55 (new in original box, was set up for daily use or dubbing, later rotated into standby status)
10/10/2009 Magnavox ZV450MW8 VHS/DVD combo recorder (2007) $45 (little used refurb, was set up for daily use or dubbing, later rotated into standby status)
11/7/2009 Panasonic DMR-ES25 DVD recorder (2006) $25 (used by original owner as DVD player, has been in daily use since my purchase)
11/22/2009 Magnavox MWR10D6 DVD recorder (2006) $21 (timer sometimes deletes scheduled recordings, otherwise OK, occasionally set up for dubbing)
2/27/2010 PYE PY90DG DVD recorder (2006) $18 (performs as new, currently in standby status)
4/22/2010 Toshiba D-RW2 DVD recorder (2006) $20 (performs as new, was in daily use until last week, then rotated into standby status)
6/22/2010 Panasonic DMR-EZ47V VHS/DVD combo recorder (2007) $25 (Original owner used this as a DVD and VHS player, had VHS mechanism malfunction, otherwise as new condition. From a parts machine I swapped in two VHS mechanism cradle parts, now OK, currently in standby status)
8/6/2010 Panasonic DMR-EH50 HDD/DVD recorder (2005) $50 (little used by original owner, performs as new, in daily use since purchase)
8/24/2010 Toshiba D-R410 DVD recorder (2008) $25 (performs as new, now in daily use as DVD recorder/player with HDMI connection to family viewing TV)
9/3/2010 Panasonic DMR-ES46V VHS/DVD combo recorder (2006) $40 (as new in original box, currently in standby status)
12/9/2010 Magnavox ZV450MW8 VHS/DVD combo recorder (2007) $20 (VHS mechanism malfunctions, eats tapes, otherwise OK, in daily use as ATSC tuner/recorder)
12/23/2010 Panasonic DMR-EA18 DVD recorder (2009) $45 (new in open box, never set up by original owner, in daily use since my purchase)


Thanks again for your help, DigaDo. I find your OCD impressive. Would you say this list of yours is inclusive of all models you might be searching for if you were me? I think it would be great if you could put together a small chart with makes and years of DVD recorders within the Funai group. You know, like...

Panasonic 2005-6 (except for the green one)
Philips etc.

Or is it not that easy? How can you tell if the make is Funai AND something you would consider picking up at a low/right price? Much appreciated once again,
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You CAN record hi definition content from a sat box or STB, depending on the hookup, but at best it will be in 480i resolution. The recordings should still be very good, they just won't be in high definition. Your STB or source signal has to be able to transmit the hi-def content via component, S video or composite- -not all do. NOTE--If you have a Directv Hi def box (and this may apply to other STBs) you need to manually SET the Directv box to output at 480i OR YOU WILL NOT GET A SIGNAL WHEN YOU HOOK IT UP TO A DVD RECORDER!

Squonk said this in '05. Should I assume that this is still true today? If so, I understand now that it is DAD from the DVR to the DVD recorder, but via what component, and what is composite? How do I manually set my DirecTV box to output at 480i?

As has already been said, nothing has changed with respect to high def recording. No HD recorders exist in te US market. CitiBear said that you can reocrd HD only with a computer. This is true, but if the $ limitations are realistic, then getting a HD setup for your computer is outside of your budget.

You would have to go from your HR24 to whatever DVD recorder you get, using either composite or S-Video. The back of your HR25 should have both connections. The composite connection is the yellow one. You won't need to set your HR24 to output 480i, the composite and S-Video outputs always put out only 480i. If you want the graphics and on-screen messages to show up, and the annoying nag screen to NOT show up, you will need to put the HR24 into SD mode by pressing and holding the EXIT button for five to ten seconds. this will change the output from whatever high definition resolution you have chosen to 480p, and enable the GUI and text messages to appear on screen from the SD outputs. Press the EXIT button again for five to ten seconds to return to HD. The SD outputs will still be active in HD mode, but they will lack and graphics or status messages.

I record form my DirecTV boxes to my Panasonic DVD recorder all the time.

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Bob with the Panasonic DMR-ES35R sounds fantastic. He claims that the unit is fully-functional, and that he has the manual and remote. He claims that he only recorded on it once to transfer his daughter's wedding from VHS to DVD, and otherwise just used it as a player (whether VHS or DVD I don't know). I'm going up there in the next 2-3 hours to check it out. I plan on bringing 8x media and ask him to demonstrate it . Is that the kind of media I should bring or what? He said he just moved and he hasn't ever hooked it up to cable or satellite, but he will. Any thing specifically I should check out or ask him to show me so I know the unit's the real McCoy? And, if it's all he says it is, what is this thing worth? Thanks in advance.

Starting to think I should get this one (maybe), and the Mag for $50. That would get me 2 for my budget.

I can't seem to find a manual for the Panansonic DMR-ES35R online. Is it the same as the DMR-ES35VS?
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Bob with the Panasonic DMR-ES35R sounds fantastic. He claims that the unit is fully-functional, and that he has the manual and remote. He claims that he only recorded on it once to transfer his daughter's wedding from VHS to DVD, and otherwise just used it as a player (whether VHS or DVD I don't know). I'm going up there in the next 2-3 hours to check it out. I plan on bringing 8x media and ask him to demonstrate it . Is that the kind of media I should bring or what? He said he just moved and he hasn't ever hooked it up to cable or satellite, but he will. Any thing specifically I should check out or ask him to show me so I know the unit's the real McCoy? And, if it's all he says it is, what is this thing worth? Thanks in advance.

Starting to think I should get this one (maybe), and the Mag for $50. That would get me 2 for my budget.

You should check the model number. It is probably a DMR-ES35V if it's for the North American market.

I'm not familiar with a DMR-ES35R. If that's actually the model number it might be a foreign model.

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I did check with him on that, and he said it's actually the DMR-ES35S at the end, I believe. Online I found only a manual for the DMR-ES35VS. We'll see.
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All ES-35's end in a V and S. The V is for VHS and the S is for silver.
If that DVDR was in my market, it would be gone already biggrin.gif The ES-35v is one of only a 1/2 dozen combos I'd actually care to own, it's a steal!
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I did check with him on that, and he said it's actually the DMR-ES35S at the end, I believe. Online I found only a manual for the DMR-ES35VS. We'll see.
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I have been busy with work for the last month solid, but I wanted to get back to everyone who responded to my initial post and say thanks. I did end up getting the Panasonic ES35VS for $50 and busily set it up to give things a test run. I was able to record successfully, and truth be told, the unit appears to be in mint condition and barely used just as Bob told me.

However, now as Week 1 of the NFL has come and gone, I have to get busy recording, and I have a problem. The remote, which was fully functional, now only has TV functions. I forget what I was doing last when I lost them, but I will try to retrace my steps. Could I have done something on my DirecTV remote? To compound problems, I just restarted plug-in auto tuning (which I probably never need to do), and now I can't get out of the language screen. Any ideas? Also, I will try to find a better place to post this and/or start a new thread.
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I have been busy with work for the last month solid, but I wanted to get back to everyone who responded to my initial post and say thanks. I did end up getting the Panasonic ES35VS for $50 and busily set it up to give things a test run. I was able to record successfully, and truth be told, the unit appears to be in mint condition and barely used just as Bob told me.

However, now as Week 1 of the NFL has come and gone, I have to get busy recording, and I have a problem. The remote, which was fully functional, now only has TV functions. I forget what I was doing last when I lost them, but I will try to retrace my steps. Could I have done something on my DirecTV remote? To compound problems, I just restarted plug-in auto tuning (which I probably never need to do), and now I can't get out of the language screen. Any ideas? Also, I will try to find a better place to post this and/or start a new thread.

When you press any button on the Panasonic remote what shows on the recorder's front panel? It should show "set" followed by the number 1, 2 or 3. That is the remote code the recorder is using. Perhaps you've accidentally reset the Panasonic remote to a different code than the recorder.

To reset the Panasonic remote to the same code as the recorder press and hold that number and the ENTER button at the same time for five seconds.

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