"Copy-protected" - AVS Forum
Forum Jump: 
 
Thread Tools
Old 06-14-2013, 02:31 PM - Thread Starter
Member
 
ulrich13's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 25
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
I have been copying many of my beta tapes to HDD, and from there to DVD-R. These tapes were mostly copied from rental tapes and I figure I would not have been able to copy them in the first place if they had copyguard.

I have done about a dozen of these with no problem. On the title list, the latest one has the "copy-protected:" icon (and it won't copy to the DVD). The tape should be no different from the others I did. And if it is copy-protected, how could I have copied it to the beta tape and then to the HDD?
ulrich13 is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 06-14-2013, 03:57 PM
AVS Special Member
 
CitiBear's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 3,054
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 29 Post(s)
Liked: 51
Copy protection schemes behaved kinda wonky on the Beta format, so its usually less of a problem dubbing from Beta than from VHS (which was much more consistent with CP and more difficult to dub from).

DVD/HDD recorders don't have any grey area: if they allow the dub to proceed, it usually means the CP has been ignored or bypassed and the HDD title should dub freely to DVD. If a recorder was sensing any kind of CP, it would usually not allow you to dub the tape at all.

But every now and then, you can encounter a weird technical glitch or interaction which doesn't make any sense, as happened with this tape. Most likely, your DVD/HDD unit permitted the dub because it didn't sense copy protection in the usual way, but after you pressed "stop" and the HDD file system analyzed the title, the recorder mistook something in the video as being the broadcast "copy-once" protection signal. This allows recording to HDD but not dubbing a copy to DVD.

Another possibility is a corrupt sector on the HDD which is interfering with the status of the title. I have had this come up several times recently on my oldest recorder. The solution for me was to change the thumbnail, change the name, change the chapters, whatever I could to get around the bad sector. Almost always I can then make a DVD, but sometimes not. In that case I delete the title and do the recording all over again.

Odds are if you do this particular dub over again, it will work correctly. If not, something embedded in that Beta tape is definitely bothering your DVD/HDD recorder and you will need to try a CP filter box or TBC wired between the Betamax and your recorder.
CitiBear is offline  
Old 06-14-2013, 04:41 PM - Thread Starter
Member
 
ulrich13's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 25
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Quote:
Originally Posted by CitiBear View Post

Copy protection schemes behaved kinda wonky on the Beta format, so its usually less of a problem dubbing from Beta than from VHS (which was much more consistent with CP and more difficult to dub from).

DVD/HDD recorders don't have any grey area: if they allow the dub to proceed, it usually means the CP has been ignored or bypassed and the HDD title should dub freely to DVD. If a recorder was sensing any kind of CP, it would usually not allow you to dub the tape at all.

But every now and then, you can encounter a weird technical glitch or interaction which doesn't make any sense, as happened with this tape. Most likely, your DVD/HDD unit permitted the dub because it didn't sense copy protection in the usual way, but after you pressed "stop" and the HDD file system analyzed the title, the recorder mistook something in the video as being the broadcast "copy-once" protection signal. This allows recording to HDD but not dubbing a copy to DVD.

Another possibility is a corrupt sector on the HDD which is interfering with the status of the title. I have had this come up several times recently on my oldest recorder. The solution for me was to change the thumbnail, change the name, change the chapters, whatever I could to get around the bad sector. Almost always I can then make a DVD, but sometimes not. In that case I delete the title and do the recording all over again.

Odds are if you do this particular dub over again, it will work correctly. If not, something embedded in that Beta tape is definitely bothering your DVD/HDD recorder and you will need to try a CP filter box or TBC wired between the Betamax and your recorder.

I did it over and it's fine. Thank you.
ulrich13 is offline  
 
Thread Tools


Forum Jump: 

Posting Rules  
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off