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I have two Philips 3576 and was working both units to try to bring a comatose DVD+R to life. The disc had one long title on it (dubbed from one of the Phillips) with a bit of space left, and I was trying to add a short title to it. I got an Error 3 on both machines. This resulted in the machine freezing at 99% writing to disc, necessitating pulling the plug from the wall in order to restart the machine. I gave up on that disc and successfully dubbed one HDD title to a different DVD on unit #1, finalized the DVD, and put the disc away. I then did some DVD editing & finalizing on unit #2 (no HDD editing), and went back to unit #1, only to find that the entire HDD was blank, showing 199 hours SLP recording time remaining. I recorded a few seconds of dead air and that did create a new title, but none of the previous 65 protected titles were there. I usually shield one unit while controlling the other unit, but this time the shield slipped and I just let it go. So I'm struggling to think what I could have done with the remote while working on unit #2 to cause a total wipeout of unit #1. Or was the damage done via pulling the plug? If so, it was a delayed reaction, since the machine worked perfectly for quite a while, and did not seem to affect the other machine..
I think there's no hope of regaining those deleted titles, but I sure would like to know what went wrong, to prevent it from happening again.
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Someone else deleted all his HDD titles when he had a 2nd machine accidentally uncovered by unknowingly selecting "HDD Menu" then OK on the uncovered machine, which is right under the "Disc Edit" menu and right above the "Dubbing" menu.



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Someone else deleted all his HDD titles when he had a 2nd machine accidentally uncovered by unknowingly selecting "HDD Menu" then OK on the uncovered machine, which is right under the "Disc Edit" menu and right above the "Dubbing" menu.

That's exactly what happened! The newer Mags have "Delete All Titles" as a 2nd submenu item, but the Phillips has it 1st. So let others beware.
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Any way to recover those titles? (not very likely), and
Wajo, I'm glad you saw my post since I didn't mean to start a new thread but to post within our beloved Mag Thread, so is there a way to move this conversation over there for the benefit of our community?
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Someone else deleted all his HDD titles when he had a 2nd machine accidentally uncovered by unknowingly selecting "HDD Menu" then OK on the uncovered machine, which is right under the "Disc Edit" menu and right above the "Dubbing" menu.

That's exactly what happened! The newer Mags have "Delete All Titles" as a 2nd submenu item, but the Phillips has it 1st. So let others beware.
2 questions:
Any way to recover those titles? (not very likely), and
Wajo, I'm glad you saw my post since I didn't mean to start a new thread but to post within our beloved Mag Thread, so is there a way to move this conversation over there for the benefit of our community?
Thanks

 

People have been working on recovery methods with varied success. Here's my help file on the subject.

 

Don't worry about starting a new post.



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Thanks again. I looked at your help file and CDRoller looks promising. Here's what Paul Goldenberg wrote to me:
"CDRoller can assist you to find the deleted video if your recorder has a separate letter in the Windows drives list (Windows Computer). Please check it at first."
So that apply to me?
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So that apply to me?
No. The HDD in the recorder is a proprietary format that cannot be mounted by Windows. If you attach it to a PC, Windows will want to reformat it. Unfortunately, your recordings are basically gone. Using low-level tools and a lot of computer skill you might be able to piece together the fragments of a single title in a week. Forget any notion that you might be able to plug the drive into a PC and run recovery tools to get a list of your recordings you could then transfer.

Sorry, but that's really the way it is.

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Well, that's the problem since a normal windows system will not "recognize" a Philips or Mag HDD. It might show up with Linux or a Hex editor (one mentioned in that link I gave). Hex is also mentioned often in this thread on Philips/Mag HDD investigation.

 

To me, it sounds like a royal PITA to get files off a recorder HDD but might be worth it to retrieve really "precious" memories that can't be re-created?



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Cr@p! Someplace in the internet I read that a new linux distro could mount "weird" drive formats (Native HEX capabilities in the OS for the new android and other tablets) I need to find that info again. eek.gif
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