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post #1 of 8 Old 08-18-2003, 06:04 AM - Thread Starter
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I just started investigating DVD recorders and my head is spinning. My primary purpose for purchasing one of these is to transfer DV home movies to hard disc. I noticed that some of the upscale models feature a digital input. How significant is this for optimum picture quality? Also, I would like to share some of these home movies with relatives in England. Are any of these recorders NTSC/PAL compatible?
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post #2 of 8 Old 08-19-2003, 02:18 PM
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Gary,

Even though technically you SHOULD get a better picture when using the DV input on one of these recorders, in practice it's likely to only look "slightly" better than just using S-Video. This is because none of these DVD recorders can record the straight DV data stream, and it must be converted to the recorder's MPEG-2 format.

Now I haven't tested these side-by-side, so I'm not the ultimate authority in this area by any means, but I think since you're dealing with DV images that originated in a consumer device (ie: the quality of the original is not all that taxing), you would PROBABLY be perfectly satisfied with a non-DV equipped model, such as the Panasonic DMR-E80H.

As for the NTSC/PAL issue, as far as I know, none of these recorders will make PAL recordings. I've had three different Panasonic recorders, and none of them have that option.

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Firewire provides more of a device control convenience than a Picture Quality advantage on these DVD recorders (automated recording and scene detection features are implemented on the HS2 and the upcoming Panasonic E100).

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On the PAL portion of your question: the Philips DVDR985 will record either NTSC or PAL video, but will not convert between them. Not sure if the newer Philips models have the same capability.
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The just out Panasonic 100 can take the raw MPEG4 video from a DV camera if I read the details correctly. Check out its stats on their web site. Of course this is a $1000 bucks...

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The just out Panasonic 100 can take the raw MPEG4 video from a DV camera
Just for clarification, don't confuse the mpeg4 video (typically recorded to a flash memory card on these vid cams) as the same as the DV video recorded to mini-DV tape or the mpeg2 recorded to mini-DVD-RAM or mini-DVD-R in the Panasonic camcorders. You can only get the DV out through firewire and it is converted to mpeg2 on the fly in the Panasonic DMR-E100 (similar to the HS2) and the mpeg4 stream duration is limited by the capacity of the flash memory card you recorded it to but it IS a direct digital transfer.

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Thanks for all the informative responses.

"...the Philips DVDR985 will record either NTSC or PAL video, but will not convert between them."

If I understand you correctly, I won't be able to record a PAL disc with a signal from my NTSC DV camcorder. Is there any way around this?
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Gary, you have three options I believe:
  • Buy a signal converter.
  • Go the PC w/DVD-R route. Look here for info. From what I've read, it isn't too easy.
  • Get a DVD player like the Apex AD1500, which can be set to output PAL while playing the NTSC DVD you've made (or vice versa). You could record that PAL signal onto a DVD recorder that can record in PAL.

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