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Have searched the forum for the best dvd-r media...seems that panasonic, fugi, maxell and ricoh are the best and made by their respective companies and they don't get someone else to make it for them.

but also read about the counterfeit maxells...

So what do you guys recommend now as a good brand for the emr 50, and for my pc dvd burner for movie and data burning...I need dependable good quality, and where is the cheapest place to get them. ALso, how do I know prior to ordering, if maxells , what the difference is between the authentic and the counterfeits, and what do the real ones look like in the case? thanks..t
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The "real" maxell's are green on top; purple on the bottom and are sold in 5 or 10 packs. The ones sold in bulk or as OEM are most likely counterfeit.

Best Buy has the Fuji 10 packs on sale for $20 - $5 MIR. When I've checked these in the store before, the 10 packs were Made in Japan (TY's). I think this is a decent price for quality media, even without the rebate.
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Ok thanks for the help Richard...t
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oh, would i be correct in assuming that the green on top and purple on the bottom is the case? and is it green on the front of the case and purple on the back or green at the top of the front to purple at the bottom of the front? mostly what i find are orange/gold cases..thanks..t
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also need to clarify, i need 2x..thanks..t
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The Maxell media itself is green on top and purple on the bottom. The counterfeit Maxells are sold in bulk spindles. I don't think the counterfeiters have gone so far as to copy the packaging so you can be sure its authentic if its in the orange/gold package.

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thanks much xortam that is great to know...t
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Best Buy often has a Fuji 50 spindle (sometimes 25 on two spindles) on sale for $70-$75. This week they're selling 50 Fuji DVD+R's for $65 so I suppose it's the -R's turn next.
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Have searched the forum for the best dvd-r media...seems that panasonic, fugi, maxell and ricoh are the best and made by their respective companies and they don't get someone else to make it for them.
Fuji does not make their own. Most of the jewel-cased DVD-R media is Taiyo-Yuden. Their spindled media is mainly Ritek.
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For quality and durability at any cost, TDK Armor Plated DVDs are invincible compared to other DVD-R media. (But they're VERY expensive.)

Armor Plated DVD-RWs would rock, but I don't think they exist. :(
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CompUSA has a 10 Pack (Their Brand) of DVD-R's for $7.99 this week!

I've had great success with these on my Panny DMR-E80
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bad1550 ... have you checked the manufacturer id off of those CompUSA discs?

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bad1550 ... have you checked the manufacturer id off of those CompUSA discs?
Not yet, I will take a look tonight!

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WOULD BUYING A 1-4X CHEAPER BULK DVD-R BE BETTER THAN GETTING BRANDED 1X DVD-R ? I'M THINKING OF GETTING THE LEDA 4X AT SHOP4TECH...

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bad1550 ... have you checked the manufacturer id off of those CompUSA discs?
I could not locate a mfg id? - Sorry

I am very satisfied with these so far!

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bad1550 ... have you checked the manufacturer id off of those CompUSA discs?
Checked them out using Dvdinfo and it says there are Princo brand.
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Checked them out using Dvdinfo and it says there are Princo brand.
*STAY AWAY*

Princo and CMC Magnetics discs are BAD.

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WOULD BUYING A 1-4X CHEAPER BULK DVD-R BE BETTER THAN GETTING BRANDED 1X DVD-R ? I'M THINKING OF GETTING THE LEDA 4X AT SHOP4TECH...
Depends on the brand. You have to be careful when buying bulk. Leda is not a name I recognize as a manufacturer, so it is most likely an OEM. They could be Princos.

Unless they are explicitly stated to be made by Ritek, stay away from bulk media. Ritek is the only bulk media manufacturer with any semblance of quality control. Optodisc, CMC Magnetics, and Princo all make unreliable junk.

I buy my Riteks from www.rima.com.
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Checked them out using Dvdinfo and it says there are Princo brand.
Thanks Walena808 ... I think I'll pass on these.

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Optodisc, CMC Magnetics, and Princo all make unreliable junk.
I can confirm that Optodiscs are junk. I bought some when I first got my HS2 a year ago, and about 1/3 of them generated the dreaded U11 error. The ones with the frosted hub are the worst. The clear hubs aren't so bad. Must be different manufacturers.

Now I only use Verbatim DataLifePlus (2 15-packs for $32 on sale at Office Depot) or the Fuji 10-pack TYs. Not to mention the 10 free Panasonic DVD-R and DVD-RAM discs they offered to HS2 buyers last year. :)
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I have been using Verbatim DataLifePlus DVD-Rs that come on a spindle of 20 from Tape Warehouse. They have worked great for me, but when I recently re-ordered the same, I noticed that the box was identical except instead of saying Made In Japan, it says Made In Taiwan. Some people have said the quality is not as good. I don't know yet, but am concerned.

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I have been using Verbatim DataLifePlus DVD-Rs that come on a spindle of 20 from Tape Warehouse. They have worked great for me, but when I recently re-ordered the same, I noticed that the box was identical except instead of saying Made In Japan, it says Made In Taiwan. Some people have said the quality is not as good. I don't know yet, but am concerned.

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The new ones are CMC Magnetics, instead of MCC (Mitsubishi Chemical Corp).

MUCH lower quality. CMCs are borderline. If you only burn at 1x they should be OK, but still beware. Nowhere near as bad as Princo and Optodisc, but not as good as Ritek or any of the Japanese manufacturers.
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I only record at 1X on my HS2 and E80. Still, I'm disappointed that you can't count on getting the quality that you think you are paying for when buying DVD media.

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I just bought a DMRE50, and have tried small samples of various disk brands. I have heard some criticism that the DMR's are fussy about accepting non-Panasonic disks, but I have not found that to be the case, with one exception.

My results were: 10 Memorex, all OK; 25 BeAll, all OK; 25 Meritline, all OK. The Memorexes cost about $2.50 each; the others were $1.40 or thereabouts. I understnd that Samsung's disks are made by BeAll, and the MeritLine brand also appears identical to BeAll except for packaging.

The only trouble I encountered was with the much-maligned Princos. Amazon sells them under the name of "CD Technology," and I ordered 5 to flesh out a purchase to the $25/free shipping level. Two of the five were no good, and to make it worse they ran for some time before the recorder reported a problem, which meant that much extra time was wasted. I am surprised at Amazon for selling such a crappy product, especially under a phony name.
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I had better compatibility playing the disk on other players that I burned with my Panny e100 using the 1x Verbatim datalife (from Taiwan) than 4x ridata(ritek) on my Panny e100. your mileage may vary.
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In most cases, recording at 1x will always result in a better burn than recording at 4x, even with good 4x media.
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In reference to the COMPUSA 10 packs for 7.99 I have had very little trouble with them. I had 3 or 4 bad ones out of the last 100 I bought but the price is still a bargain, I'm satisfied.
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