Originally Posted by rgazzara
I will try #2 first, then #1 when I get a chance. I'll report back as to whether or not the host channel changes.
You missed the point AGAIN!
Besides, your machines are PANASONIC and your Host Chan is NOT a PBS STATION (as you've said).
I've been trying to get any other PIONEER 531/533/633 user to try fine tuning their PBS Host CHANNEL by using different PBS STATIONS (apparently widely used in this PIONEER system) for either effect: NO TVG info or MORE STABLE TVG info. That would be a direct, "apples-to-apples" comparison.
However, other Pioneer users might as well NOT try #2 also since it will not "CHANGE" the Host CHANNEL, as YOU said, but it will/should, somehow, make EPG act differently in a Pioneer 531/533/633 system, as I have said, depending on what you do with the Host CHANNEL/STATION relationship.
If you turn OFF your Host CHANNEL, it should make your TVGOS info disappear after a day or two, and quiet your EPG down (for those who actually don't need/want EPG). It should result in "No Listing" in all days BUT no unwanted side effects (channels, clock, "rebuilding", etc.) which seem to occur with other, more drastic methods for trying to defeat EPG.
Again, simply turning the Host CHANNEL OFF in the simple and benign way I suggested was never claimed to "CHANGE" the Host CHANNEL, only EPG's behavior. This same effect can also be seen in switching PBS STATIONS for BETTER stability for those who want the opposite result (i.e., a more stable EPG).
It was only yours and Daytrader's misinterpretations that made those ideas not worthy of even trying!
I've run my experiment here and got "No Listing" and a tame EPG by turning OFF my perfectly working Host CHANNEL in the Change channel display menu. Now, I've switched my Host CHANNEL back ON and TVGOS is starting to repopulate again.
When I say Host "channel" I mean just that: I picked one of my four PBS STATIONS (not "channels") in the OFF section of my channel list to tune to my sole, assigned Host "channel" slot (Ch. 10), and I could have chosen any of the four STATIONS...it doesn't have to be the one my cable company picked for me (antenna fire, half-power, bad TVG)...they're all the same signal in my PBS NOC-controlled state. I use one of the most powerful in my state since I've actually experienced the effect of station power on TVG stability. No theory there!
Such a simple procedure, and all that time, my Host Chan remained intact in the debug screen (Ch. 10). Once again, it WILL NOT "change" the Host CHANNEL, only its behavior!!!
People with two actual CHANNELS of PBS may need to turn one off since multiple PBS STATIONS, all within my State, ON in the same channel slot at the same time made my TVG work poorly, and eventually start losing TVG info. If you have two actual PBS CHANNELS, you may even be receiving one from your state and one from another state. Since PBS/PTV is operationally State-oriented, those signals may not be exactly the same in the TVGOS area and cause interference (who knows for sure?)? In either case, multiple PBS CHANNELS or STATIONS ON at the same time may cause TVGOS long-term stability problems.
It's very possible that, by actually deleting/skipping your Host CHANNEL via manual channel setup (Daytrader's #1 method), you might get no EPG action at all...or you might turn your machine into a "grinder" searching in vain for data...somewhere...anywhere! If you don't want EPG, that might be a solution...or not...but I won't do that test since my EPG works perfectly and I want TVGOS to work. Someone in the Eureka thread might be interested in the manual-delete-Host-CHANNEL method.
I hope this is clear to other Pioneer readers now, but please don't try this at home! I used only professional, highly skilled technicians. It was extremely difficult, expensive, and time-consuming...and it is theoretically impossible to have any effect anyway!