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The future of the DVD media market?

USED DVDs at Amazon

Several more "offers" like this on Amazon.
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The future of the DVD media market?

USED DVDs at Amazon

Several more "offers" like this on Amazon.
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Clicked on the 1st 10 pages on amazon of "other like this", your specific item was the ONLY item marked like this.

1 out of 100 does not in any way, shape, or form constitute any "future trend"
They simply may have had some damaged packaging...it happens occasionally (less than 1% of the time)
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Clicked on the 1st 10 pages on amazon of "other like this", your specific item was the ONLY item marked like this.

1 out of 100 does not in any way, shape, or form constitute any "future trend"
They simply may have had some damaged packaging...it happens occasionally (less than 1% of the time)
This Amazon search page (page 1 only) has 8 of 27 offers for USED.
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Amazon has been advertising used "blank media" DVDs for a long time--years. This is hardly a new thing. What it means is rather humorous, but they have been doing it for quite a while. Maybe years ago someone was selling used camera flash-bulbs.
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Yes I imagine it's not so much "used" as open box. Of course "used" write once DVDs would be pretty useless(coasters anyone ) but a 100 spindle with a few broken or scratched DVDs or broken packaging would be fine. The only thing I noticed from sellers other than Amazon with free shipping is lots of time with the shipping it made the DVDs cost more than Amazon normally sold them for new of course if it was Amazon selling the "used" DVDs and it included the free shipping(like at least one did that I noticed) I suppose it wouldn't be a bad deal.
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Yep:

"Used - Like New Item will come in original packaging. Packaging may be damaged"

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Ugh. $14.99/50pack. That's even cheaper than the last time I bought them back in July.
$0.30/disk for BD-R. Unreal.

BD-R(DL) are also coming down. $1.72/disk in a 25pack.

edit: whoops -- Amazon did a price jump on the BD-R(DL) soon after I posted

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Ugh. $14.99/50pack. That's even cheaper than the last time I bought them back in July.
$0.30/disk for BD-R. Unreal.

BD-R(DL) are also coming down. $1.72/disk in a 25pack.
Yes SL BDs are now regularly priced below DL DVDR and it looks like DL BD is even approaching DL DVDR, unbelievable considering BD is 3x and DL BD almost 8x the capacity!
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Yes SL BDs are now regularly priced below DL DVDR and it looks like DL BD is even approaching DL DVDR, unbelievable considering BD is 3x and DL BD almost 8x the capacity!
As I recall, DVD+DL are listed as 8.5GB which is less than 2x the capacity of DVD-R, listed as 4.7GB. BD-R are listed as 25GB and BD-R(DL) as 50GB (2X), which is nice. So:

1 DVD+DL = 1.8 DVD-R
1 BD-R = 5.3 DVD-R = 2.9 DVD+DL
1 BD-R(DL) = 10.6 DVD-R = 5.8 DVD+DL

No question that BD-R storage is more cost effective on a per byte basis than DVD. There is always the argument that if you lose a BD-R you lose 5X the content of a DVD-R. While absolutely true, if you stock up on BD-R at these prices, you can cheaply make a duplicate BD-R to nullify that worry, the same way many here make DVD duplicates for backup.

I've yet to buy any BD-R(DL). I really don't have the need for them and I desperately want to avoid the mistake I made buying up DVD+DL in the old days then trying to figure out what to do with them all. it already makes me nervous that I went on a BD-R sale-buying binge and have over 300 on hand (which is why I can ignore this $14.99/50pack deal). If BD-R(DL) make their way down to ~$1.50/disk I can see buying a single 25pack to give them a try.

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As I recall, DVD+DL are listed as 8.5GB which is less than 2x the capacity of DVD-R, listed as 4.7GB. BD-R are listed as 25GB and BD-R(DL) as 50GB (2X), which is nice. So:

1 BD-R(DL) = 10.6 DVD-R = 5.8 DVD+DL
I think I meant to say a DL BD was almost 6x(not 8x) the capacity of a DL DVD, still for not much more than a DL DVD one can see how overpriced DL DVDs are per GB.
Looks like for price per GB, SL BD wins hands down followed by SD DVD and then DL BD with DL DVD being the costliest.
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No question that BD-R storage is more cost effective on a per byte basis than DVD. There is always the argument that if you lose a BD-R you lose 5X the content of a DVD-R. While absolutely true, if you stock up on BD-R at these prices, you can cheaply make a duplicate BD-R to nullify that worry, the same way many here make DVD duplicates for backup.
While IMO that may hold some water when your talking about a 5TB HDD and the potential 100s of recordings that could be lost, from everything I've read about BDs they are supposed to be more stable than DVDs and besides even if you lost 50GB worth of recordings it's nothing compared to 5TB
Yes if I were doing it all over(and of course BDRs were around when I switched to DVDs, which they weren't) BD would have been the format I would have used, not DVDs actually I may have even used HDDs but at the time the cost/GB was much higher than DVDs. Anyway something new always seems to come along to outdated what were currently recording on.....
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from everything I've read about BDs they are supposed to be more stable than DVDs
I find it both amazing and comforting that I have DVD-R that I burned back in 2004, that I can still pop in my BD writer drive on my PC and rip to my HDD without error. Back in those days I was using Maxell and Ritek DVD-R before moving to T-Y and my early days of T-Y were the "value line" disks.

We used to worry (argue) so much about dye longevity back in those days. Mine are simply stored vertically in covered disk boxes. BD-R uses solid-state recording layers, not dye. Who knows how long they will last, but I suspect I will be gone before they are. That's all that really matters.

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While IMO that may hold some water when your talking about a 5TB HDD and the potential 100s of recordings that could be lost . . . besides even if you lost 50GB worth of recordings it's nothing compared to 5TB
Yes, I agree, which is why I don't use anything bigger than 4TB HDD's in my array.
I just can't imagine the grief of losing a 5TB drive.

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