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I don't see a thread on this particular Model, but since I saw it at my local Costco, I assume that a lot of people will be picking this model up.

I have the ES40VS but I have been having a lot of problems with the unit freezing up when recording DV input. I'm considering returning the 40 and getting the 45 for about $20 more.

It adds 720p/1080i upconversion via HDMI and an SD card input. It also includes an HDMI cable.

My biggest annoyance with the 40 besides the freezing up issue, is that you can't use flexible recording when dubbing from a tape.
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I don't see a thread on this particular Model, but since I saw it at my local Costco, I assume that a lot of people will be picking this model up.

I have the ES40VS but I have been having a lot of problems with the unit freezing up when recording DV input. I'm considering returning the 40 and getting the 45 for about $20 more.

It adds 720p/1080i upconversion via HDMI and an SD card input. It also includes an HDMI cable.

My biggest annoyance with the 40 besides the freezing up issue, is that you can't use flexible recording when dubbing from a tape.

Judging from what the first ES15 users are reporting, it is good news for the 2006 Panasonic models. They already added FR-recording-pause on the ES15, which was removed from the ES20, so maybe the ES45V will get more features as well.

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OK Picked up the ES45VS yesterday at Costco and returned the 40V.

It does have FR for Dubbing now which is a big plus for me. No more having to record 75 VHS tapes on SP mode.

SD card functionality is nice. It would be nice if it supported MP3s on SD cards. I don't think it has this capability but I haven't checked for sure.

DV recording functionality is much improved, and Knock on Wood no system crashes and no coasters so far.
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This is the model I am waiting to buy, but no one has here yet.
Started to buy the 35 but didn't because I really want the SD slot.

What was the price? I can get the 35 for 248.00 at Circuit City.
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This is the model I am waiting to buy, but no one has here yet.
Started to buy the 35 but didn't because I really want the SD slot.

What was the price? I can get the 35 for 248.00 at Circuit City.

289.99 from Costco. I returned the 40 which was 269.99. So I paid the extra $20.

3 Main reasons I returned the 40 and got the 45.

720p/1080i upconversion over HDMI.
Flexible Recording mode when dubbing.
Eliminate system freezing when recording via DV input.

There is also a bonus 2M HDMI cable included. This alone may be worth the extra $20.

SD card capability is nice, and you can transfer pictures from the SD to DVD.
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Is the Panasonic DMR-ES45VS Made in Malaysia or Made in Japan? This info can be found somewhere outside of the original box. I just got a new Panasonic DMR-EH75VS yesterday for $500. It has HDMI plus 80GB hard drive and is Made in Japan.
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I just got a new Panasonic DMR-EH75VS yesterday for $500. It has HDMI plus 80GB hard drive and is Made in Japan.

I thought the EH75VS had a 100GB HDD?

Just a mistype?
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I thought the EH75VS had a 100GB HDD?

Just a mistype?

It actually has a 80 GB HDD. It says so on the box outside. Panasonic has provided the wrong specifications on the DMR-EH75VS.
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Is the Panasonic DMR-ES45VS Made in Malaysia or Made in Japan? This info can be found somewhere outside of the original box. I just got a new Panasonic DMR-EH75VS yesterday for $500. It has HDMI plus 80GB hard drive and is Made in Japan.

InYourEyes, where did you pick that up? I have the EH30 and am interested in this model. What are your impressions so far? Thanks
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How's the upconversion? and which one looks best 720p/1080i?

And please tell us the display you are using and what type it is and tel us if their is any improvements

Thanks~
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InYourEyes, where did you pick that up? I have the EH30 and am interested in this model. What are your impressions so far? Thanks

I picked it up from Circuit City yesterday. It is on sale at circuitcity.com (online purchase only) for $459.99. Not bad if this is the newest and latest model out there. I haven't tried the DVD player section yet as I don't have a HDTV right now.
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I picked it up from Circuit City yesterday. It is on sale at circuitcity.com (online purchase only) for $459.99. Not bad if this is the newest and latest model out there. I haven't tried the DVD player section yet as I don't have a HDTV right now.

Thanks, i dont see it listed on the Panasonic site though they have the ES45. Does it have two tuners and does it come with a HDMI cable? thanks again.
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Is the Panasonic DMR-ES45VS Made in Malaysia or Made in Japan? This info can be found somewhere outside of the original box. I just got a new Panasonic DMR-EH75VS yesterday for $500. It has HDMI plus 80GB hard drive and is Made in Japan.

It's on the back of the unit itself.

MADE IN MALAYSIA

Why, do you have any opinions on this?
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InYourEyes, Can you Please check the back of your recorder (Not The Box) & see where it was made.

Maybe the box is wrong or they are being made in Malaysa & Japan but I would guess there coming from Malaysa.
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InYourEyes, Can you Please check the back of your recorder (Not The Box) & see where it was made.

Maybe the box is wrong or they are being made in Malaysa & Japan but I would guess there coming from Malaysa.

It is Made in Japan. The first shipment batch of the Panasonic DMR-EH75VS are Made in Japan for this month only. They will be Made in Malaysia after that. Panasonic had made DVD recorder/VCR combos in Japan before for first batch shipment only (DMR-E75V and DMR-ES30V).
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Well that could also explain why they charge Top Dollar when they first come out, not just because there new, but to pay for the added labor costs from Japan

Then when all the shipments come from Malaysa (Christmas) they can then afford to lower all the prices.
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If you don't mind me asking, why even buy an upconverting panasonic DVD recorder when you don't even own an HDTV yet?

Seems like a waste of money to me since you would'nt be using the features that justify it's price like HDMI, 1080i/720p upconversion,etc.
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I have had bad luck with DVD recorders. How is your panasonic DMR-ES45V doing? I had a magnavox and it was a nightmare! The service was even worse! took me 4 months to get money back from them. Now I want to be sure the dvd recorder I purchase is ok. Any other suggestions?
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I've got a few Panny questions:

1) Is the only difference between the ES45VS and EH75VS the hard drive?

2) I don't need the vcr. Is there a similar panny dvd recorder (no vcr) with similar features to the ES45 and EH75?

3) My tv only has component inputs. Is there such a thing as an hdmi to component converter or cable?
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If you don't mind me asking, why even buy an upconverting panasonic DVD recorder when you don't even own an HDTV yet?

Seems like a waste of money to me since you would'nt be using the features that justify it's price like HDMI, 1080i/720p upconversion,etc.

I don't have an HDTV either, but I still bought the 45V. I expect to have the TV by September, so I'm future proofing.
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I have had bad luck with DVD recorders. How is your panasonic DMR-ES45V doing? I had a magnavox and it was a nightmare! The service was even worse! took me 4 months to get money back from them. Now I want to be sure the dvd recorder I purchase is ok. Any other suggestions?

Service is one of the main reasons I bought from Costco. Satisfaction guarantee no questions asked. I bought the 40V in February. I returned it and bought the 45V 2 months later. No questions asked. I won't ever have to deal with Panasonic for service. I can just take it back to Costco if there is a problem.

I really like the ES45V over the 40V. No system crashes, no coasters, and I have the option of HDMI upconversion in the future.
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bcab17, The new EH55 which should be out shortly should fit your bill, it's good everything that the 75V has except the VCR & it has a Much Bigger HDD than the 75V & selling for around the same price as the 75V. I think it's suposed to be a 200GB Drive?
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1) Is the only difference between the ES45VS and EH75VS the hard drive?

YES

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2) I don't need the vcr. Is there a similar panny dvd recorder (no vcr) with similar features to the ES45 and EH75?

ES25 = ES45 minus VCR
EH55 = ES75 minus VCR

ES15 = ES25 minus HDMI
ES35 = ES45 minus HDMI

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3) My tv only has component inputs. Is there such a thing as an hdmi to component converter or cable?

No such thing as an HDMI to component converter. You are stuck with using the component out and not getting the 720/1080 upconversion.
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3) My tv only has component inputs. Is there such a thing as an hdmi to component converter or cable?

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No such thing as an HDMI to component converter. You are stuck with using the component out and not getting the 720/1080 upconversion.

Don't be too quick to say that. I don't know of one, but I'll bet there is one available somewhere. This is probably not the best forum for that kind of information. The video projectors forum and maybe others would be better. I will suggest that an HDMI to component converter won't be inexpensive--the cost will likely be significant (he said, redundantly).

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3) My tv only has component inputs. Is there such a thing as an hdmi to component converter or cable?

Haven't tried it before but you could get a hdmi -> DVI cable and then a DVI -> component cable. Something like this

Maybe this would work?
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Don't be too quick to say that. I don't know of one, but I'll bet there is one available somewhere. This is probably not the best forum for that kind of information. The video projectors forum and maybe others would be better. I will suggest that an HDMI to component converter won't be inexpensive--the cost will likely be significant (he said, redundantly).

You're probably right, and about the part about it being expensive too. I do know that in order to convert 720p or 1080i HDMI to component would require one to get past the whole HDCP thing. It's not that it can't be done, it's that there are probably powers that be that prevent such a thing from being widely available.
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ES25 = ES45 minus VCR
EH55 = ES75 minus VCR

Unless you have seen the User manuals for all those, it may be too early to make that statement. We already know of some differences:

* The EH55 has a bigger hard disk than the ES75V
* According to some published specifications, the ES-Vs (the ones with VCR/VHS) do not support the latest revisions of -RW and +R. This may have been updated/fixed before they began shipping though. I browsed thru the ES75V manual but I forgot if it does support the latest format revisions.
* I think there may be a couple of other minor items. I think they are posted in the "2006 panasonic models" thread.

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For those of you talking about HDMI to component, forget it. HDMI passes digital data, audio and video. DVI passes digital data, video. That is why HDMI <> DVI is possible.
Component is passing analog video signals.
The device referred to in the earlier post is "Designed to take a TV-out signal from certain video cards". Some PC video cards only have a DVI connector which sends both analog and digital.

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I thought that too. Then someone here a while back posted a link to a page with HDMI-to-Component converter cables. Cheap too. I think it was in the LCD and Flat Panel Forum here at AVS. I'll try to find them again. I subsequently searched for more of the same, thinking maybe these were fake or something, and found many.
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For those of you talking about HDMI to component, forget it. HDMI passes digital data, audio and video. DVI passes digital data, video. That is why HDMI <> DVI is possible.
Component is passing analog video signals.

I am full aware of this. An adaptor cable will be insufficient. It will require a digital to analog converter, which is why I said it will be expensive. Just because it is difficult and complex does not mean someone, somewhere hasn't done it.

The single best argument I have heard to make me believe no such device exists commercially is the HDCP compliance problem.

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