HDD SWAPS - UPDATED 5/8/08
-- I will update this first post with Toshiba XS series HDD-related info as it becomes available, so don't forget to check back here!
The hard drives in ALL XS models (including the KX50) can easily be replaced with the same model HDD, or one of the other models listed in the service manual for that XS model (later in this post and also in my post #13)! They're all pretty much simple, drop-in replacements. No esoteric procedures, service remotes, firmware update discs, etc. Physically replace the HDD, then go to Setup--HDD Format. That's it. The XS54 and XS55 seem to be able to use the widest variety of HDDs (sizes and models). The XS54 and XS55 can also recognize drives over 250GB, but will only format them to 250GB (we don't yet know if that may lead to corrupted data with long term use, so use caution). The XS32 and KX50 are the only models (so far) that can have their capacity doubled - 80GB to 160GB. If replacing an HDD in an XS52 or KX50, set the HDD jumper to cable select. The XS32, XS52 and KX50 can interchangeably use the same 80GB and 160GB drives.
It's getting nearly impossible to find new, and much harder to find refurbished, 80GB and 160GB compatible HDDs at a fair price. So if you have an XS32, XS34, XS52 or KX50, you might want to stock up on an extra HDD now if you can find one. Check ebay, newegg, geeks, etc. A reasonable price for a refurbished 80GB or 160GB Maxtor or Seagate is currently (10/10/07) around $35-$50, and I've seen new ones go for $150+. Also, the CE or CS suffix on the Seagate/Maxtor drive part numbers in the service manual parts list (below) may be very important, as a couple of users have reported that non-CE suffixed HDDs won't work in a KX50.
New and refurbed HDDs, and HDDs that have been formatted in a pc, need to be formatted in the target XS model via Setup--HDD Format. When indicated below that an HDD from one XS model will work in another, the HDDs can be swapped back and forth between units with all recorded content intact, and without reformatting. Keep in mind, it's probably safest to format any HDD in the unit it will be installed in, as we don't know if drives may eventually get corrupted by recording on different units. Or, you could fill up one HDD, remove it, store it, install another, fill it up, etc. You can also set up an external HDD, which may be easier for anyone switching between multiple HDDs (of course, only one at a time), or using HDDs for archiving (see nextoo's post in this thread about external HDD setups).
You can take a compatible model HDD out of a pc and it will work in the appropriate XS model after formatting in the XS. You can also use an XS HDD in a pc, but XS recorded content is NOT visible to the pc, and Windows, etc., can't use the drive until you format it in the pc.
The physical HDD swap is generally similar to replacing an HDD in a pc. Use common sense and caution - make sure the unit is unplugged, avoid damaging components or pc boards (careful with that screwdriver, Eugene), avoid touching the power supply board components (capacitors can hold a charge), etc.
If you're getting an error in the 7000 range on the XS display, it's most likely due to an incompatible HDD, a bad HDD, or a bad, broken or disconnected HDD or burner cable. If trying a new HDD not listed in this post, it seems that 80GB, 160GB and 250GB HDDs have the best chance of working. So far, only 80GB and 160GB HDDs work in the XS32, XS52, and KX50. If anyone swaps any other Toshiba XS HDDs, please post to this thread, so we can add to this list of what works and what doesn't. Thanks. And thank you to everyone who has posted their efforts, whether successful or not!
I am regularly updating this first post with current replacement hard drive info - model numbers, tips, etc., so check back here to see what works at a glance.Step by step HDD swap procedure (most models are very similar):
1. Unplug the XS and remove the cover (unscrew phillips head screws on sides and rear, then pull/slide cover up and back).
2. Remove the original HDD mounting screws and/or bracket, and remove the HDD. Depending on the XS model, it may be easier to remove the mounting bracket and HDD together, and separate them once out of the unit. In the XS54, a ground wire is attached to the bracket by one of the screws.
3. Carefully remove the power and data cables. The data cable is attached to a small pc board, which, in turn, attaches to the HDD. The XS54 also has a capacitor soldered to the board. Be careful removing the cables, and especially the pc board from the HDD, as you really don't want to break anything.
4. Make sure that the HDD jumper is set to "Master" on all models except for the XS52/KX50, when it should be on "Cable Select."
5. Plug in the new HDD to the power and data cables and replace the HDD and/or bracket, ground wire (XS54) and screws.
6. Double check that no screws (or screwdrivers) are laying on a pc board, all cables are properly attached, no other cables or parts are damaged, squished, etc.
7. Replace the XS cover and screws.
8. Plug in the unit, and if it's an XS54, wait for "Wait" to clear off the display.
9. Power on the unit and when the HDD problem/authentication/contact service center messages appear on the screen, press the "Enter" button on the remote to clear them.
10. Press "Setup" on the remote, scroll to HDD format and format the HDD.
11. Check the time remaining and make a couple of test recordings to make sure it's working okay.Toshiba XS HDD swaps that DO work:
XS32 - 80GB Maxtor 4R080L0 - I've been able to repeatedly swap multiple HDDs (original and new) between two XS32s and record on them, with all content intact between repeated swaps. I also formatted one of these in a WinXP pc and it works in an XS32 after Setup--HDD format.
XS32 - 160GB Seagate ST3160022A - You can upgrade the XS32 from 80GB to 160GB. After formatting this new HDD in the XS32, you can use the entire 160GB!! This is a replacement model HDD for the XS52, and the XS32 can use one of these HDDs straight from an XS52, and vice-versa, with all content intact.
XS32 - 160GB Maxtor 4R160L0 - Can use the full 160GB once formatted.
Note: It looks like the XS32 can use any of these 4 different HDDs interchangeably: 80GB Maxtor 4R080L0, 80GB Seagate ST380012ACE, 160GB Maxtor 4R160L0, 160GB Seagate ST316022ACE, regardless of which model HDD was originally in the unit.
XS52 - 160GB Seagate ST3160022A - Set HDD jumper to cable select.
XS52 - 160GB Maxtor 4R160L0 - Set HDD jumper to cable select.
XS52 - 80GB Maxtor 4R080L0 - I took an XS32 HDD and it works fine in the XS52 without formatting. All XS32 content is intact in the XS52. Set HDD jumper to cable select.
80GB Maxtor 4R080L0
160GB Maxtor 4R160L0
160GB Seagate ST3160022A
160GB Seagate ST3160812A
160GB Seagate ST3160212ACE (BenWhitmire 1/16/08)
200GB Seagate ST3200822A (BenWhitmire)
250GB Maxtor 6L250R0
400GB Seagate ST3400832ACE (10/31/07) - Formats to 250GB only
These next HDDs work in both the XS54 and XS55
80GB Seagate ST380012ACE (nextoo)
160GB Maxtor 6L160P0 (nextoo)
250GB Maxtor 6L250R0 (nextoo)
250GB Seagate ST325083ACE (nextoo)
250GB Western Digital WD2500JB (ATA100) (nextoo)
250GB Maxtor MaxLine II (ATA/133) (nextoo)
XS35 - 250GB WD - but the XS35 can only use 160GB and you must use the reset procedure in nextoo's later post to avoid losing content. Not as straightforward as same size HDD swap. (nextoo)
XS35 - 80GB (shawbros)
KX50 - 80GB Seagate ST380012A (BenWhitmire) - Set jumper to cable select
KX50 - 80GB Maxtor 4R080L0 (glgehman2) - Set jumper to cable select
KX50 - 160GB Seagate ST3160022ACE - (BenWhitmire) - Only formats to 80GB, NOT 160GB - Set jumper to cable select
KX50 NOTE: At least with the KX50, it seems that only HDDs with the CE suffix will work, and HDDs ending simply in A, won't work.
XS55 - ST3500641A 500GB - Only formats to 250GB, NOT 500GB (nextoo)
XS55 - Hitachi Deskstar T7K500 HDT725032VLAT80 (0A33405) 320GB - Only formats to 250GB (nextoo)
XS55 - Same as XS54. Please see XS54 info above (nextoo) It looks like the XS54 and XS55 can use a variety of HDDs greater than 250GB, but will only format them to 250GB.
Notes: It looks like the 80GB and 160GB HDDs listed for the XS32, XS52, KX50, XS34 (not the XS35 160GB Maxtor 6L160P0) will work in all XS/KX models. Many 250GB HDDs will work in the XS54/XS55 (some also in the XS35, but complicated). HDDs over 250GB may work in the XS54/XS55, but will only format to 250GB, so it's probably better to stick with a 250GB. Other HDDs smaller then 250GB may work in the XS54/XS55, but, again, 80GB, 160GB and 250GB are probably the safest.Toshiba XS HDD swaps that DON'T work:
XS32 - 40GB, 120GB and 250GB Maxtor
XS32 - 320GB Seagate ST3320620A (HH37)
XS32 - 160GB ST3160812A
XS32 - 160GB Maxtor STM3160815A (gblanc)
XS32 - 300GB Maxtor 4A300J0OEM (gblanc)
XS32 - 160GB Maxtor 6L160P0 (10/31/07)
XS52 - 250GB Maxtor 6L250R0
XS52 - 160GB ST3160812A
XS54 - 120GB Maxtor
KX50 - 160GB Maxtor 6L160P0 (nextoo) - HDD from an XS35 - gives error 7034
KX50 - 160GB Seagate ST3160212ACE (BenWhitmire 1/16/08) - gives 70xx error
KX50 - There have been a few reports of HDDs from another KX50 and various other HDDs not working. I'm leaning towards those being bad HDDs, as we now have a few KX50 HDD replacements that work fine. Also, it looks like only HDDs with the CE suffix will work in the KX50.These are the replacement HDDs listed in the service manual parts lists (or other source as noted) for each model:
XS32 - 80GB - Maxtor 4R080L0 or Seagate ST380012ACE
XS52 - 160GB - Maxtor 4R160L0CS or Seagate ST3160022ACECS
KX50 - 80GB - Maxtor 4R080L0CS or Seagate ST380012ACECS
XS34 - 160GB - Seagate ST3160022ACECS
XS54 - 250GB - Maxtor 7Y250P0 or Seagate ST3250823ACE
XS54 - My XS54 has a factory installed 250GB Maxtor 6L250R0
XS35 - 160GB - Maxtor 6L160P0 (nextoo)
XS55 - 250GB - Maxtor 6L250R0 or Seagate ST3250823ACE
Note: We need some more user reports on whether or not the CE or CS suffix is important for each Seagate/Maxtor HDD. The CE suffix seems to be necessary for at least the KX50, and I've used HDDs ending in A (without the CE) in an XS54 and maybe other models.
Links to some other Toshiba XS model recorder threads on avsforum.com:
Tosh XS32 DVD Burner: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=653912
Toshiba RD-XS54: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=579864
Toshiba RD-XS32 Help Thread, Current Owners Only: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=490616
Toshiba XS55 - Enabling slinbox like performance: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=896385
XS34 owners....: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=540826
Toshiba RD-XS35 fan noise issue - found a fix for it: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=799382
Quiet a Toshiba Fan Mod: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=856807