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I just purchased a refurbised DMR-EZ47v and am wondering if it will work with a Panasonic DVD RAM disc 2~3x speed (4.7GB) ?
Also, does my DMR-EZ47v have to be turned on to take advantage of its tuners? I presently have Comcast cable plugged into my Panasonic Plasma TH42px6u 42" TV. (I'm asking because I don't see a difference in quality with the DMR-EZ47v turned on or off.

Yes, RAM discs 2-3x speed will work fine. And the ez47 will pass the cable signal on to the tv without the recorder needing to be on.

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Hi,
I just purchased a refurbised DMR-EZ47v and am wondering if it will work with a Panasonic DVD RAM disc 2~3x speed (4.7GB) ?
Also, does my DMR-EZ47v have to be turned on to take advantage of its tuners? I presently have Comcast cable plugged into my Panasonic Plasma TH42px6u 42" TV. (I'm asking because I don't see a difference in quality with the DMR-EZ47v turned on or off. Maybe I am missing a step.) I have both HDMI and Red-Yellow-White cables hooked up.

Your Panasonic does have to be on to see channels that it tunes, but it doesn't appear that you have the proper setup yet.

I think the first sketch in this post might help... ignore the "STB" as it doesn't sound like you have one, and you're already connected to the TV with HDMI and Y/W/R RCA cables, which are correct.
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Thanks Wajo for your link. Is the DMR-EZ47v considered a VCR/DVD combo ? (It has both DVDrecorder and VHS player). If it is, then your link states that its information is not for this combo. I quote from your link:
"This info should apply to all DVDRs but not to VCR/DVD combo units. The RF in/out on combo units works differently when the VCR is ON, so better to keep them out of the coax chain to your TV."

Oh, I forgot to mention that Comcast runs a Coax cable to my wall from which I connect my TV. In other words, I do not use a Comcast Cable box. I now plug this cable directly into my EZ47v's RFin and run another coax from EZ47v's cable out to my TV's RFin. I set my EX47v to "CABLE". On my TV settings - I select "HDMI".

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Hmm, does anyone have problems watching TV using Comcast Cable into EZ475v ? I may have to get a new EZ475v instead as my I am going to return my refurbished unit. The refurbised unit has a defect- when I view HD Channel 9-2 using Comcast cable, there is a line of noise on the top of the screen. When I view HD Channel 4-2 using Comcast cable, there is digital noise/distortion to the picture every 10 mins. I don’t have these problems when I connect Comcast cable directly to my TV.
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Thanks Wajo for your link. Is the DMR-EZ47v considered a VCR/DVD combo ? (It has both DVDrecorder and VHS player). If it is, then your link states that its information is not for this combo. I quote from your link:
"This info should apply to all DVDRs but not to VCR/DVD combo units. The RF in/out on combo units works differently when the VCR is ON, so better to keep them out of the coax chain to your TV."

Thanks for pointing that out... I've got to change the note to be more specific about a combo. If it's the only device from wall to TV, then OK, etc.
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Does anyone have problems watching TV using Comcast Cable into EZ475v ?

I purchased a refurbished unit and it seems to have a defect- when I view HD Channel 9-2 using Comcast cable, there is a thin line of noise on the top of the screen. When I view HD Channel 4-2 using Comcast cable, there is digital noise/distortion in the picture every few mins. I don't have these problems when I connect Comcast cable directly to my TV.


I may have to get a new EZ475v instead and return my refurbished unit.
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Ihot,

If your Panasonic was refurbished by Panasonic it includes a 90 day warranty.

The corporate Panasonic Service Center in Elk Grove Village IL handles warranty and out-of-warranty repairs in a prompt and efficient manner.

For Panasonic warranty service, call 1-800-211-7262 to obtain a RMA.

Panasonic also offers out-of-warranty flat-rate repairs for $130.00, including parts and labor and return shipping.

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Does anyone have problems watching TV using Comcast Cable into EZ475v ?

Until recently, I did exactly that. I was able to view and record local stations off Comcast with the cable directly connected to the EZ475v. The problems I encountered were more to do with poor signal from the Comcast cable, especially when the weather turned bad. The tuned channel would break up momentarily, or, if it was really cold, vanish altogether. I haven't seen the issues you mention unless your problem with channel 4-2 is related to signal strength.

By the way, since switching to FIOS, the signal to the DVDR has been solid; there haven't been any breakups in picture.
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Thanks FRtundra. You wrote "switching to FIOS" . What is FIOS?
I called a technician at Panasonic and he confirmed there is a problem with this refurbished unit. Even the remote does not work right.
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^^ FIOS is a digital cable service that started a couple of years ago.

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I have a PZ700U Panasonic TV, Panasonic HTIB (SC-PT1050), Scientific Atlantic 8300HD cable box, and the DMR-EZ47V VHS/DVD recorder.

I have the coax cable coming from the wall to the Scientific Atlantic 8300HD "in" to the cable "out" on the 8300HD to the DMZ EZ47V cable "in" to the DMZ EZ47V cable "out" to the PZ700U TV "in".

I have "red, yellow, white" cables from 8300HD video "out" to "red, yellow, white" INI1 on DMZ EZ47V.

I have component cables ( red, blue, green) from DMZ EZ47V (component out) to PZ700U TV.

Finally, I have RCA cables from DMZ-EZ47V to Panasonic HTIB.

I can see DVDs in 1080... TV upconverts I think, however, I could rearrange cable to use HDMI from DMZ EZ47V to PZ700U TV if need to.

So, everything is great EXCEPT when I view HD channels from cable box they have a black bar above and below and are not HD.

Think you may have answered this question before but I still am confused regarding settings.

I have played with RF output signal, inputs, aspects, HDMI, etc. no luck in getting the DMZ EZ47V to display HD channels in correct size and resolution.

THANKS!

P.S. I also have HDMI from Scientific Atlantic 8300HD to PZ700U TV and "optical out" from Scientific Atlantic 8300HD to "optical in" Panasonic HTIB
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All your signals to your DMR are coming from the SA box, which letterboxes any signal from its analog outputs.

Try placing the DMR 1st on the coax, as shown in the 1st sketch in this post, then scan for channels in the DMR and see how many it trunes by itself. Keep your other connections for audio and separate lines to the TV, as well as the analog connection between SA box and DMR for rec. channels only the box can tune (scrambled and higher-numbered).

This setup makes all tuners independent and you can record one channel while watching another on from your box or TV.

THE ONLY BUG IN THIS MIGHT BE THAT YOUR DMR-EZ 47 IS A COMBO. Not sure how to make the coax in/out loop a passthru cuz when using VCR side, it prob. modulates the internal stuff to the TV. Maybe OK or might require a setting not to modulate, or a 2-way splitter might be last resort???
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Wajo,

Thanks for the quick reply. I re-routed the coax cable as per page 56 of manual... and... I think the basic connection you linked me to in your post.

I scanned for channels.

The tuner seems to only go up to channel 135. My HD channels are in the 200s.

I also split the coax cable and directly connected it to DMZ-EZ47V... I got same result.

Think I will go back to old setup. I can get ALL the channels that way. I will record on non-hd channels and see if the TV will upconvert recorded DVD.

Is there a certain recordable DVD I should use? Can I record HBO non-HD channel?

-Thanks again.
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The tuner seems to only go up to channel 135. My HD channels are in the 200s.

I also split the coax cable and directly connected it to DMZ-EZ47V... I got same result.

Think I will go back to old setup. I can get ALL the channels that way. I will record on non-hd channels and see if the TV will upconvert recorded DVD.

Is there a certain recordable DVD I should use? Can I record HBO non-HD channel?

All DVDR digital tuners only go to 135, that's why you need the analog (S-Video or Composite) connection between the box output and a DMR input. When you want to record a channel only the box can tune, set the DMR to the input you connected to and record the signal from the box... the box will unscramble the channel or deliver one of its higher-numbered channels to the DMR for recording, as long as the program isn't copy-protected also.

Best discs locally are Verbatim, and online Taiyo Yuden from supermediastore.com or rima.com.
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OK... cool I get it now.

So, for me I set DMR EZ47V to INI1 and put the SA 8300HD on the channel I want to record.

I also read where starting the coax from the wall to the DMZ EZ47V will help "boost signal" to other components.

So, I will set it up like that.
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OK... cool I get it now.

So, for me I set DMR EZ47V to INI1 and put the SA 8300HD on the channel I want to record.

I also read where starting the coax from the wall to the DMZ EZ47V will help "boost signal" to other components.

So, I will set it up like that.

You got it now except for the signal "boost"... don't think the E47 has an amplified coax passthru like the Philips DVDR3576, but at least you won't be splitting the signal (and losing at least -3.7dB) JUST BEFORE you connect to the built-in splitter in the DVDR's coax passthru.
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Bought a refurbed 47 this week, and it arrived yesterday.

Early comments-I love the picture quality of the Panasonic tuners. It makes the analog cable chanels from Comcast look so much better than the tv's tuner does.
Being Saturday, there wasn't much in the way of tv programming to try out a recording of the 12 clear QAM stations.

Day 1 with the EZ47, and no horror stories...yet. Da-da-dummmmm...
Stay tuned.

One week later....

Mostly pleased with the recorder. Though I have run into-you guessed it, issues with it. The nonsensical crippling of features found in previous generations of Pannys continues to fascinate. On the ez47, it appears that you cannot create playlists for material recorded to RAM. It will permit you to view playlists made on a RAM disc on another unit, but not make them. It's not going to be that big of a headache for me, as I have 2 other Pannys-the hdd eh85, and es30 combo. And perhaps someone without an earlier unit won't need to create a playlist, but it feels wacky not to carry over that ability.

Did a couple of dubs-vhs to dvd & vice versa just for kicks, and echoing the sentiments already on record, this process sucks.

And the last point may be interesting. While glancing at a clear QAM On Demand channel, the movie started to fast forward. A few secs into this and the unit went into U99 error mode. It happened again on another night too, during a por-erm, mature audiences performance showcase... yeah, that's it. Could the digital signal from the cable co have caused this? Or maybe the unit just can't handle signal streams that way. Just curious, it's not a deal breaker to avoid those chs, as there's no way to determine what shows up and when.
I'd just like to know if anyone else has experienced the ff/rewinding on those On Demand chs, and if the same freeze happened.

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Bought a refurbed 47 this week, and it arrived yesterday. Yeah, I know, I've read the thread since it was started, but with the EZ48 still a little too pricy, when I saw the 47 at a great price-$48 at ubid, I decided that, despite what I've read, it was worth getting one. I did purchase a 12 month extended warranty, so, if the worst happens, I'm covered-at least for a year after the Panny 3 month warranty ends...

Are DVDRs like Pringles? After getting my 'open box' EZ-17 @ $100, another ATSC/QAM tuner for $48 sounds interesting - how much was the warranty?

I checked a few times at the Buy.Com Outlet (I 'think' that's where someone said to look) but I never found any refurbed Panasonic DVDRs there. I thought the other place was eBay - good thing you posted with uBid - are there other sites to check? Are the prices ALWAYS this good? Or regularly - at intervals? Or RARELY?!? Is there more than one vendor? Anything to watch out for?

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...Gripe 1-the ch scan lists a bunch a digital chs that were labeled 'added' under the Channel Settings menu, but there's nothing on them. Imagine the disappointment at paging thru those, only to find a blank screen...

I found the same with the EZ-17 and was tempted to delete the blanks and label the unlabelled. But, in my newbie confusion, it seems to be a waste of time - i.e. there's no way, AFAICT, to save the labels and a new scan RESETS everything (I go back-and-forth between QAM and ATSC). I also saw mention of not being able to manually ADD channels but truthfully I can't remember if that was for Panasonic or Philips.

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...The other 2 were back to back recordings, 1am & 2am, on different digital QAM channels. Both recorded just fine...

I thought I read that you would lose a few seconds from the beginning of the 2nd show as the DVDR closed the file for the first show?

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And the last point may be interesting. While glancing at a clear QAM On Demand channel, the movie started to fast forward. A few secs into this and the unit went into U99 error mode. It happened again on another night too, during a por-erm, mature audiences performance showcase... yeah, that's it. Could the digital signal from the cable co have caused this? Or maybe the unit just can't handle signal streams that way. Just curious...

...I'd just like to know if anyone else has experienced the ff/rewinding on those On Demand chs, and if the same freeze happened.

I came across one of those channels when I was mapping out my QAM Excel spreadsheet. The Comcast On Demand 'Subscriber' was *VERY* adept with his/her remote - s/he seemed to know *EXACTLY* where each scene was located.

No U99 on my EZ-17.

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Are DVDRs like Pringles? After getting my 'open box' EZ-17 @ $100, another ATSC/QAM tuner for $48 sounds interesting - how much was the warranty?

Warranty was $7.07. Shipping about $16.
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I checked a few times at the Buy.Com Outlet (I 'think' that's where someone said to look) but I never found any refurbish Panasonic DVDRs there. I thought the other place was eBay - good thing you posted with uBid - are there other sites to check? Are the prices ALWAYS this good? Or regularly - at intervals? Or RARELY?!? Is there more than one vendor? Anything to watch out for?

There are 2 separate auctions at ubid for Refurbed ez47s-auction 1 ends in less than 90mins and has 11 units up at a starting bid of $119.

The second auction has 2 units up for bids starting at $148, and ends on Monday..
http://www.ubid.com/Panasonic_DMR-EZ...703189055.html

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I thought I read that you would lose a few seconds from the beginning of the 2nd show as the DVDR closed the file for the first show?

I used a RAM disc, and the few sec change over didn't stand out as both shows ended, then started on commercials.
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I came across one of those channels when I was mapping out my QAM Excel spreadsheet. The Comcast On Demand 'Subscriber' was *VERY* adept with his/her remote - s/he seemed to know *EXACTLY* where each scene was located.

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Today is the last day I can purchase an extended warranty for my Panny DMR-EZ47V (one year anniversary since I bought it).

Panny will sell warranties for the following prices:
1 year- $50
2 year- $80
3 year-$110

I have read in posts that some recommend avoiding them. I still have to copy about 100 to 150 VHS tapes to DVD.

Also, do any of you recommend an annual service, like cleaning VCR heads?

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"Personally" I'm not too big on extended warranties. That said in the case of the EZ-47 I "might" consider it.
One reason I might not in your case is because yours has lasted 1 year with no problems yet, maybe you got a good one. If the warranty included shipping both ways I'd be more inclined to go for it. If not shipping is so darn expensive now days if you had to ship it back more than a few times that could get expensive plus the cost of the warranty.
A lot of it boils down to how much personally you feel comfortable doing minor maintenance. Cleaning the VHS heads wouldn't be a bad idea although a $10 wet cleaning tape also works good for minor cleanings. A bigger concern would be cleaning the DVD drive spindle. If properly prepared it's not that hard of a job, although it does require removing the units cover as well as the DVD drive cover(a cleaning disc only cleans the DVD lens NOT the spindle). If you don't feel comfortable with this I might also be more inclined to go for the warranty. Trust me, if you've used your unit more than a few hours and have dust in your house the spindle is going to need attention soon. I've had Pannys need spindle attention after less than a years use. Some after less than 6 months(and I don't smoke or have pets). I don't even bother with warranty repair for a dirty spindle. It only takes 15 minutes to do the job. It would take me more time to take it back to the store or box it up to ship it back to Panasonic.

So in the end it's up to you. If you feel comfortable with minor cleanings I might be tempted to skip the warranty. If you'd just as soon not bother I guess I might go with one. Figure out how long you plan on keeping the unit to decide on warranty length. The Panny EZ-x7 series machines make great recordings when they work, it's just they do have their issues. I guess if you knew you were going to get the dreaded U99 error I'd really go for the warranty. I had 5 EZ-17's all die with U99. luckily they were all under warranty and were able to be exchanged for another new one. By the 5th I was given my money back and more or less told I should try another DVDR
My ES machines just keep on ticking. Really never have issues with those, other than spindle cleaning.
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Thank you JJeff!

1. I am cool with trying to clean the DVD drive spindle. Does anyone know any special differences for cleaning the DVD drive spindle in the DMR-EZ47VK and DMR-EZ475VK, or can I just follow the instructions at Link #487 (posted by DigaDo to Dndata)? Please see it quoted immediately below:

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....Here is advice concerning DVD drives that seem to be failing but just need a spindle/hub cleaning:

http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=210507

Following these detailed instructions clean the lens, rubber and plastic spindle parts and hub area, and the circular guide in the DVD drive lid.

Panasonic 2006 and newer DVD drives are easy to service. Remove the case top cover to get access to the DVD drive. Remove the four small Phillips screws and lift the DVD drive top lid. When viewing the DVD drive from the front (where the tray rolls out) notice the roller assembly at the rear of the DVD tray. This mechanism must be positioned to the left corner before reassembly so these parts will be correctly aligned to the guide rail on the underside of the drive lid. With the 2006 and newer models opening of the Panasonic case, removing the DVD drive lid, cleaning the drive, closing the drive lid, and closing the case takes around fifteen minutes.

.... Note: On a combo recorder be sure to hold the VHS door open as the front panel is fitted back into place. This will correctly align the VHS door opening mechanism.

2. Does anyone know if the DMR-EZ47VK has the appropriate heat sinks? I'll definitely take the unit out of the open backed, glass door cabinet, or at least keep the doors open when in use.

3. A repair technician told me special care needed to be taken when cleaning VHS heads. Can anyone give me a good link on instructions for cleaning the VHS heads in the DMR-EZ47VK? I've not done it before, but it should be fun!?

4. Should I try to get updated software for this unit, and if so, from where and how would I install it? (Bought from Costco in June 2007).

Many thanks to all for such a helpful community!

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I am cool with trying to clean the DVD drive spindle. Does anyone know any special differences for cleaning the DVD drive spindle in the DMR-EZ47VK and DMR-EZ475VK . . . A repair technician told me special care needed to be taken when cleaning VHS heads. Can anyone give me a good link on instructions for cleaning the VHS heads in the DMR-EZ47VK? I've not done it before, but it should be fun!?

These EZ series machines are from 2007. While the DVD drives are different in a few respects from those in 2006 models the cleaning procedure is the same.

The DVD drive lid is anchored at the front and tips up at the rear. With this design there is no need to disturb the machine's front panel so the advice about holding the VHS door open when refitting the front panel to the case is unnecessary in this instance.

Jeff has posted better advice than I originally posted (see his post below) for cleaning procedures for various parts of a VHS mechanism. Here are a few of my general observations:

All the tape-path parts are accessible without removing the machine's front panel. There are several rollers and guides in the tape-path. There are also stationary recording heads and rubber pinch rollers in the tape-path. These parts are not particularly delicate. Clean the stationary recording heads first then move to the guides and rollers. Most of the residue will be found on the large rubber pinch roller to the right of the spinning drum. The small heads on the spinning drum are delicate and may be damaged very easily. These heads are located in small cut-outs along the bottom edge of the spinning upper portion of the drum. Using force may damage the heads or dislodge them. After this I clean the sides of the upper spinning drum, taking special care not to touch the heads while cleaning the drum. There is a lower, stationary assembly that aligns with the spinning drum. Clean that as well, again taking care not to touch the heads on the drum while cleaning this lower assembly. Take care not to pick up other residue. The spinning upper drum and the lower assembly (that portion above its guide groove) are cleaned as they are within the tape-path. There are several greased parts in the VHS mechanism. Take care not to disturb this grease or allow grease residue to contact any parts in the tape-path.

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Does anyone know if the DMR-EZ47VK has the appropriate heat sinks? I'll definitely take the unit out of the open backed, glass door cabinet, or at least keep the doors open when in use.

Should I try to get updated software for this unit, and if so, from where and how would I install it?

With regard to heatsinks I think the more important consideration is appropriate ventilation and airflow, especially when using the VHS mechanism as it is big, clunky, and has many moving parts.

Firmware may be found at the Panasonic Support page:

http://www2.panasonic.com/consumer-e...-DVD+Recorders

Be sure to print out and follow the instructions found there.

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Digado, while a person could use cotton swabs I personally only use foam swabs for cleaning the tape path. For cleaning the spinning video heads I only use chamois cleaning sticks. Their specifically designed for cleaning video heads and are flat and about 1 cm in width. I used to use the cheaper foam swabs for the video heads but didn't like it when the foam would occasionally catch on the video heads. The most important part about cleaning the video heads is to NEVER use a up and down motion. The heads are very fragile and can easily snap if a up and down motion is used. For this reason what I do(and I believe is recommended) is to hold the flat chamois cleaning stick against the drum and slowly spin the drum around several times, only stopping the spinning when the little heads were NOT under the swab. Note I also like to hold the leading edge of the stick away from the head which eliminates the possibility of the heads catching on the swab. When looking at the cleaning swab it is easy to see the brown dirt when using the tan flesh colored cleaning sticks. The ones I have are double sided and since they are about a inch tall I get several cleanings out of each 50 cent stick.
Personally I wouldn't use cotton swabs for any of the cleaning because of the possibility of loose fibers coming off the swabs. The foam swabs may cost a few cents more but have no fibers.

This is just my 2 cents about cleaning video heads. I'm quite paranoid about using any up/down motion since I did this on my first VCR back in '84 and ruined the head. It was a $250 mistake This was in the days of $1000 new VCRs and I guess $250 for a head replacement was cheaper than a new VCR. I doubt anyone ever replaces video heads in $100 VCRs or even $300 combos now days. Maybe professional equipment though.

BTW jhollister, to be safe you may just want to clean the tape path and leave the video head alone. Personally I think the wet cleaning tapes do a fine job of video head cleaning, they just don't get all the nooks and crannies of the tape path like a manual cleaning does. As far as a cleaning chemical Isoprop alcohol should work fine although they do make a specific chemical for cleaning video heads. Radio Shack might still sell it, although with the demise of VCRs who knows
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Digado, while a person could use cotton swabs I personally only use foam swabs for cleaning the tape path. For cleaning the spinning video heads I only use chamois cleaning sticks.

Based upon your better advice I have edited some bad information out of my earlier post.

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Digado and jjeff,

1. Thank you for the walk-through on cleaning the VCR video heads. I went to a few sites for pictures and descriptions and then I remembered that I have the suede chamois-tipped cleaning sticks and foam sticks for my miniDV camera. I also have professional head cleaning fluid. It feels dicey when you're a novice, but I didn't ruin the miniDV cam.

(BTW, I have compared azeotropic alcohol (~91% isopropyl alcohol plus water) and 99% isopropyl alcohol. Though some argue that the azeotrope leaves less of a ring than the 99% alcohol [url="http://bealecorner.com/trv900/trouble/cleaning.html"], if you put a dab of each on a clean mirror and look at evaporation time and residue left behind, I found the 99% to leave virtually no ring after evaporation. Not so with the azeotrope mixture. Regular 70% leaves the worst ring and has the slowest evap. time.)

a few VCR tape head cleaning sites:

http://forum.videohelp.com/topic347772.html

http://www.scifi2k.com/misc_html/vd/dmanualclean.html

http://hometheater.about.com/cs/vcrs...eadcleaing.htm

http://www.fixer.com/osm/cleaning.php

Yeah, jjeff, maybe I will just get a wet cleaning cartridge. I figured as long as I unplugged the EZ47 and took off the cover, I'd do all the maintenance. But then if I have a malfunction, I've got two systems to wonder about my having disturbed.

2. Since I have a Mac and was not sure if I could burn the Windows update with it, I called Panasonic Customer Service and they are sending me the software free, to arrive in 3-5 days they say.

3. The Panasonic representative said with the original or their extended warranty, they pay for shipping both ways. When the warranty has expired, they only pay for shipping on the return to owner. I think I'm over my time limit to buy the extended warranty now.

4. Lastly, I've noticed a slow response to commands from my remote recently, and I wonder if the computer in the EZ47 gets fouled up if one tries to send commands to it too quickly? I've always been able to finally eject and or reset any freezes, but it does scare the hell out of me.


Thank you both for the generous support.

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Thanks for the follow up about the shipping. If they pay both ways it would make it more tempting, but since you sound like you're not afraid of using a screwdriver you should be able to take care of the common maintenance, which takes care of the majority of problems.
As far as the slowness of the EZ DVDRs in general I always have to laugh. I'd swear their running on something like Windows 98. The ES machines are superior in that respect but unfortunately don't have the nice digital tuner built in. Of course by nice I don't mean fast, they are slower than molasses in January, but at least they have the tuner built in for maximum flexibility.
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"... If you want to give Panasonic one more chance I would suggest returning your last EZ-47..."

DONE.
- Thank-you, Costco.

Okay... step 1: Finalize those dvd-rw discs before this one 'implodes'...
(I'm joking: kind of...)

Whoooo Boy - I sure hope THIS unit 'hangs in there.'
(Needless to say, I've bookmarked this thread in case I need to clean the spindle at some point.)

Trust me, amigos...
- If this sucka fails on me w/in the 1st 6 months or so (make that YEAR or so) I assure you I'll colorfully get the word out

Now...
- Onto the "Official Panasonic DMR-EZ48VK thread"...

Hello, Gang
- It's Me' again - the guy whose house is haunted by the invisible I Love To Destroy Panasonic DVD Recorders' demon

1 MONTH & 3 DAYS!
- That's all the time it took for my EZ-48 to self-destruct.

Lucky me: I came home just in time to watch the fun
- I walked into the house at 9:59 pm Sat w/my brother to watch a movie. The EZ-48 was just finishing its scheduled recording from the SciFi channel (scheduled from 8-10pm); media was a re-used Panny DVD-RW. The machine was just powering down as we walked in. All of a sudden, that hideous stream of 0 0 0 0 0 0 started scrolling across the display: a minute or 2 later I got the infamous & dreaded U99 error message. (Needless to say: unit completely frozen' & couldn't eject disc)
- Powered off (holding Power button for extended period) - waited a minute & powered on - hit/held Eject as Hello blinked: No luck.
- Waited until Hello stopped blinking & hit/held Eject immediately after Hello stopped blinking: No luck.
- Powered up the machine again: 0 0 0 0 0 0 U99
- Powered down, waited a minute or 2, powered up, & after Hello stopped blinking & 0 0 0 0 0 0 started streaming, inserted paperclip into Reset eventual result: 0 0 0 0 0 0 ad infinitum (Lucky me: no more U99 - just Endless Zeroes streaming across my display forevermore)

I unplugged the unit for a day & plugged it back in: result - 0 0 0 0 0 0 ad infinitum

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This is the FOURTH unit to die on me in last 2-3 years:
1st lasted just over 6 mo.s (DMR EZ475V predecessor: DMR-ES45V I think)
The subsequent replacements (both DMR EZ475Vs) each worked OK for 3-4 months
- At least the others took their time croaking*: they'd start rejecting discs I'd recorded on them & stop reading Panny dvd-rams (Even BLANK ones) before freezing up).

* The last time I went through this, my queries initiated an educational series of spindle/hub cleaning discussion on the DMR-EZ47V thread (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...5#post13888905).

This time the unit just self-destructed right in front of my eyes.
- Guess it all has to be something having to do w/the sophisticated' circuitry that runs the d*mn thing as opposed to the spindles, eh?

I dunno (understatement of the century!)
Am suspecting (in my ignorance) that perhaps
- Re-used dvd-rw discs just freak out the brains' of units I purchase (as opposed to units everyone else in the universe purchases): might a scratch on the disc or some such &^%*!! be responsible for making my Pannys commit suicide - Or
- Perhaps there's some kind of spurious unevenness' in the current of the AC outlets in my wall that fluctuates just enough to KILL my machines (my home entertainment electronics are plugged into a surge-protecting power strip: need I, perhaps, buy a bona fide UPS battery-back-up system like I have for my pc.s??)

I mention this, Gentlemen (most of the posts I read around here SEEM to be from guys [like me]) because I DON'T KNOW WHY THIS KEEPS HAPPENING TO ME (ALONE).
- I'm completely flummoxed!

I Just Do Basic DVD recording through a standard co-ax analog cable connected from Comcast.
My Panny dvd-recorders stand all by themselves on top of my home entertainment stand shelf all by themselves (w/no adjacent cabinet walls or other electronics to impede airflow).

Am connected to several-year-old Panasonic TH-50PX600U 50 inch Plasma (Costco's TH-50PX60U) via HDMI & component & a Kenwood HTIB.

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Frankly, I'm afraid of returning to Costco for (yet) another replacement: am imagining that Costco corporate will inform me that I'm abusing their return policy & they're therefore kicking me out of the club' (Sure maybe I'm paranoid - but for some reason beyond my current comprehension it seems I'm cursed: I buy the machines, use them somewhat sparingly [a few hours a week] for basic recording tasks & my machines blow up' on me.)

So
Since my machine isn't even 2 months old, & is DEAD (I just looked at it again: 0 0 0 0 0 0 ad infinitum may as well unplug), I'm thinking of having THIS one serviced instead of returning it (& sparing myself the daggers from the eyes' looks from those Costco Return Desk personnel).
- Just Maybe the Panasonic repair-techs can tell me WTH happened: why it 'fried.'

There's a Panny Service Center w/in a 30 min. drive from here.
Do you folks think I should trust them - or should I go through the additional hassle of shipping to one of the giant Official' service centers?

I see posts here mentioning conversations w/Panasonic engineers. How do you guys reach them?
(My experiences w/Panny tech supt. have been, am sorry to say, just terrible.)

What other makes should I consider for a dvd-recorder? (I recall that wajo really likes the Phillips unit w/the built-in hdd (& believe jjeff concurred [?]); I've read complaints elsewhere on AVS posts that the picture quality isn't up to par compared to the Pannys
- Is there anything to that?
I'll miss the FR' recording mode, & I guess I'll have wasted my $$ on the dvd-ram spindles sitting on my shelf if I eventually go that route, I suppose)


That's it for the moment, I guess.
If I come across as despairing or glum, apologies: I waited 2 daze' before posting so I could keep my language clean (feeble chuckle). Truth be told, I'm mighty blue. Am on really restricted budget* (hard times), & - for the veritable life of me' - I can't figure out what's goin' on. (Any of you heard of anybody ELSE who's had units like these inexplicably crap out 4 d*mn times w/in 2 years?).

* I've even considered upgrading to Comcast service w/dvr & hd programming (G'Bye beer budget ...but even seeing the hd channels I get via basic service here makes me shudder (pixilation gone mad on hd channels): &, not only is FIOS not quite yet available here, FIOS in these parts doesn't even have TCM on its roster, making the option untenable even if it were available

Groan

(Am posting this on EZ-48 thread & cross-posting at DMR EZ475V thread, since that's where I first sought-out help, & that's the thread where I outlined my difficulties from the beginning.)

Hope you folks are doin' better than I!
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DnData,

Don't fret about being glum. That is part of the reason we are here, to support. Besides, you wrote with a sardonic wit. It would be funny if it weren't so true. I think Jjeff had dreaded U99's more than once, so it is not just you or your set-up.

Any chance the spindle hub could already be dirty? Any smoke or dust sources?

I would at least call Panasonic Customer Service. I've had good luck with them most of the time. (I sometimes have to contain any feelings of indignation: I have a spiteful face when I slice off my nose.) I think the warranty is suppose to cover shipping both ways, but maybe that is only if you purchase the extended warranty. You might also try calling or writing someone higher up at Panasonic to request help, but that is a lot of work and no guarantee that it will help. You'd have to ask Customer Service for help.

You might level with Costco, explain your concern, and ask for your money back. I think Jjeff would not recommend this Panny recorder. I hope you don't have too much $ tied up in DVD-RAM discs.

I'm sorry to learn the EZ-48 is delivering trouble like its predecessors. I think you've all the evidence that you need that this series is temperamental in your home.

Maybe someone else can offer better advice.

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