Originally Posted by Oiler1
Pioneer 640H-K...Bad points:
2. Awkward editing only one playlist allowed
4. Does not do commercial skip on dvd's
Nice post. A few points regarding the Pioneer since I know it better then the other two:
Re #2: Indeed there is only one playlist but I've found if you stick to only editing on the HDD immediately prior to off-loading to DVD, (which is a good habit to form to avoid HDD fragmentation,) multiple playlists aren't as important.
Re #4: Yes, I noticed commercial skip doesn't work on finalized DVDs when using the 640's remote, but oddly if you use the 633 remote with the 640, the commercial skip does work perfectly even for finalized DVDs. (The 2 remotes must use different codes for commercial skip.)
The Pioneer also has the convenient "Auto" bitrate setting (like Panasonic's FR) to fill a DVD which is great for commercial free recording, but IMHO it is important when listing Pros for the Pioneer that you should include the additional 32 manual (MN) bitrate options which allow you to more exactly set the correct bitrate (to within 5 or 10 minutes) to fill a DVD after
editing out commercials. This allows you to maximize picture quality without wasting space where commercials were edited out, which is often 25% or more of the disc space.
The manual bitrates also provide much better options for most programming like movies which fall between 2 and 3 hours...rather than having to always drop to LP mode for anything over 2 hours like with the Panasonic. This may seem like a minor point especially for users of small screen SD TVs, but when you eventually switch to a bigger screen or HDTV, the extra pq is much appreciated.
I believe the Toshibas also have manual bitrates, although not quite as convenient to use from what I hear.