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post #4501 of 25743 Old 04-18-2009, 11:34 AM
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So, chalk another up in the 'too good to be true' category. Email Friday PM said the drive is NOT in stock, order canceled. does this speak to "service" aspect of this supplier, you be the judge.

So now my appetite is whetted and I'm looking for the other alternatives. Not because it's so important but because the original option seems to have failed.

I'll be watching and searching. Perhaps it's time for a SATA adventure...

Thanks all, Mike.

My sata system works fine just humming along, with no problems
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If anyone is looking for a more affordable option (and is willing to take a chance on an untested drive), I recommend the Western Digital WD5000AAKB 500GB PATA/IDE 7200 RPM 16MB ($71.99 delivered from ZipZoomFly).

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Good luck, Mike, and to all you future upgraders!

Ok, mon ami, now the question (since my source failed me)...
Why do you "recommend" the WD??
Must be more than whim or that they employ you.

And let me make the answer more important, on the strength of your recommendation, I just ordered the sucker. (Free Fedex Ship 5-7 days TAT). No pressure now.

No seriously, thanks and we'll see when I do the install if it works as guesstimated. But I'd like to get the answer, why you think it's viable.

If it fails I'll heave the 3/4lb brick your way. I could stick it in my PC but don't really need the extra storage there.

Thanks STG - Mike.
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Ok, mon ami, now the question (since my source failed me)...
Why do you "recommend" the WD??
Must be more than whim or that they employ you.

And let me make the answer more important, on the strength of your recommendation, I just ordered the sucker. (Free Fedex Ship 5-7 days TAT). No pressure now.

No seriously, thanks and we'll see when I do the install if it works as guesstimated. But I'd like to get the answer, why you think it's viable.

If it fails I'll heave the 3/4lb brick your way. I could stick it in my PC but don't really need the extra storage there.

Thanks STG - Mike.

It won't fail unless the drive is DOA.
Already tested this drive in the 3575
Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD5000AAKB 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache IDE Ultra ATA100 Hard Drive
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My sata system works fine just humming along, with no problems

Hi Auskck -
And I'm not averse to trying it for myself.

I know I'd be tempted by adding and external cage/PS and putting in a switch to swap among the stack of drives - that is your ultimate goal, right?

I'm really kinda hankerin' for a HD DVR, the f/o to the 3575/76/2190 genre box, complete w/ blue ray DVD recorder natch'.

Once in a while I wonder why I bother with the DVD "collection" at all. Am I trying to create a library of titles for my old age? Family videos are another matter but why this archivist/collector thing?

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Hi Auskck -
And I'm not averse to trying it for myself.

I know I'd be tempted by adding and external cage/PS and putting in a switch to swap among the stack of drives - that is your ultimate goal, right?

I'm really kinda hankerin' for a HD DVR, the f/o to the 3575/76/2190 genre box, complete w/ blue ray DVD recorder natch'.

Once in a while I wonder why I bother with the DVD "collection" at all. Am I trying to create a library of titles for my old age? Family videos are another matter but why this archivist/collector thing?

M.

I am awaiting parts so I can test esata setup, so you can have multiple swappable drives. An HDD video library.
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(...) Once in a while I wonder why I bother with the DVD "collection" at all. Am I trying to create a library of titles for my old age? Family videos are another matter but why this archivist/collector thing?

M.

I find myself wondering the same thing every now & then. I've been doing it for five years now.
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Once in a while I wonder why I bother with the DVD "collection" at all. Am I trying to create a library of titles for my old age?

For me that's a large part of the reason.

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FYI: Dish has one of a few viable HD (supported) recording system with (USB) removable drives at this point. DirecTv has removable esata drives but is unsupported and the drives are tied to the receive serial #, really dumb shi##t
That's why I continue with out current boxes
I'm a DirecTv HD long time user, but they don't have their act together as far as removable drives.
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I find myself wondering the same thing every now & then. I've been doing it for five years now.

I certainly do the time shifting thing w/ DVR, that's fine.

I started out to replace my Star Trek collection on VHS with one on DVD (Voyager and Enterprise down, ST almost complete. Seems to be a dearth of DS9 nowadays, tsk, tsk.) The VHS experience taught me that no one else in my family cares. They don't stop me but don't enjoy it the way I do. I have branched into "7 days", "Dr Who"(latest), which are complete and "X-Files".

I understand that simply possessing a thing has value in our minds, just don't know if it will be so for the rest of my life. The idea that we get these programs for nothing (or little) is attractive. Having done it myself is another factor. I have 400+ Marvel comics I collected from my youth - my kids don't care about that nor have I thought to sell them (for whatever $$).

My CFO contends that as long as I don't play golf this is an acceptable "hobby". Maybe that will have to be enough, until Grandpa's foresight is appreciated by another generation.

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I certainly do the time shifting thing w/ DVR, that's fine.

I started out to replace my Star Trek collection on VHS with one on DVD (Voyager and Enterprise down, ST almost complete. Seems to be a dearth of DS9 nowadays, tsk, tsk.) The VHS experience taught me that no one else in my family cares. They don't stop me but don't enjoy it the way I do. I have branched into "7 days", "Dr Who"(latest), which are complete and "X-Files".

I understand that simply possessing a thing has value in our minds, just don't know if it will be so for the rest of my life. The idea that we get these programs for nothing (or little) is attractive. Having done it myself is another factor. I have 400+ Marvel comics I collected from my youth - my kids don't care about that nor have I thought to sell them (for whatever $$).

My CFO contends that as long as I don't play golf this is an acceptable "hobby". Maybe that will have to be enough, until Grandpa's foresight is appreciated by another generation.

M.

I'll be 70 this year, still tinkering with these boxes, maybe they'll work in Valhalla.
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I'll be 70 this year, still tinkering with these boxes, maybe they'll work in Valhalla.

I just turned 65 last month. I guess maybe these forums are not just full of teenagers.
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I just turned 65 last month. I guess maybe these forums are not just full of teenagers.

Are we financing this with Social Security checks?
I started collecting last fall when I turned 62.
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Are we financing this with Social Security checks?
I started collecting last fall when I turned 62.

Need SS raise so we can buy "More Stuff" (George Carlin)
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Gosh, you people are old! Isn't there any info for us 54-year-olds?
(Although I may have a wire recorder up in the attic...)

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Gosh, you people are old! Isn't there any info for us 54-year-olds?
(Although I may have a wire recorder up in the attic...)

Hey, I'm only 53 and I DO have a Webster Chicago wire recorder.
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Hey guys...

Anyone with both the Philips 75/76 AND a Maggie, a little brainstorming here, if you don't mind.

I know the software on the 75 and 76 were so similar that discs I'd started on the 75 could be completed on the 76 once Philips sent it to replace the defective 75. Additional recordings on the disc AND finalizing.

How's about the Maggie? Do the menus look fairly identical? Anyone with both the P and M tried starting a disc on one and completing it on the other?

I'm just wondering what I'll be able to do with these things.
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Hey guys...

Anyone with both the Philips 75/76 AND a Maggie, a little brainstorming here, if you don't mind.

I know the software on the 75 and 76 were so similar that discs I'd started on the 75 could be completed on the 76 once Philips sent it to replace the defective 75. Additional recordings on the disc AND finalizing.

How's about the Maggie? Do the menus look fairly identical? Anyone with both the P and M tried starting a disc on one and completing it on the other?

I'm just wondering what I'll be able to do with these things.

The 3575/3576 and 2080/2160 are a great pair since they operate separately by remote (no interference) and they can record to and finalize each other's discs if you turn Recording > Make Recording Compatible ON as described here (Option 1).

The menus are identical except the 2160 has slightly better menus.. reverse lettering on dark background vs. black on grey background. The Scene Delete menu on the 2160 also adds a chapter bar at bottom, in addition to the time counter on lower right, so you have another visual clue as to where you are in the title and how far to the end (for an End Cut).

With the 2160, you can't stop a timer rec by one press of the STOP button... you have to hold the STOP button for 2 sec to stop a timer rec, so less chance of an accidental stoppage while playing something else.
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Care to clarify what "the 'A' version" means? Sorry if I missed a chapter or two.
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Care to clarify what "the 'A' version" means? Sorry if I missed a chapter or two.

Funai has a manual for a H2160MW9A version here, which is identical to the original 2160 manual except it has a 2009 copyright, an "A" on the cover, and shows Kodak Pic discs as readable, which the original didn't show.

As soon as some people start receiving their new batch of 2160's, we'll see if they have an "A" in their model number, etc.
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Hey guys...

Anyone with both the Philips 75/76 AND a Maggie, a little brainstorming here, if you don't mind.

I know the software on the 75 and 76 were so similar that discs I'd started on the 75 could be completed on the 76 once Philips sent it to replace the defective 75. Additional recordings on the disc AND finalizing.

How's about the Maggie? Do the menus look fairly identical? Anyone with both the P and M tried starting a disc on one and completing it on the other?

I'm just wondering what I'll be able to do with these things.

Absolutely. I'm the only one where I work that has a DVDR and fairly regularly, I do share TV programs with the others at work. Having the 3575 and the 2160 and being able to record 2 channels at once, I'm the "go to guy" if someone misses recording a show on their antiquated VCRs. Or they have Tivo'd it but don't know how to preserve (much less edit) the show.

We all know how the networks counter-schedule so that for example on Friday nights, there's the Terminator/Dollhouse series opposite the Ghost Whisperer/Flashpoint/Numbers series. So, I record FOX on the 3575 and CBS on the 2160. After editing out the commercials, I can then HSD the FOX programs on a DVD+RW at 12x speed; then pop the same disc in the 2160 and HSD the CBS shows to the same disc at 24x speed. [Yes, the 2 machines have different HSD (high-speed dubbing) speeds]

Thanks to wajo's clue about setting them both to 'Make Recordings Compatible', I've never encountered any problems.

I've also burned a couple of movies to a DVD-R and then a third movie to the same DVD-R on the other machine, then finalized the disc on whichever machine was written to last.

Happily, it all works!
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As soon as some people start receiving their new batch of 2160's, we'll see if they have an "A" in their model number, etc.

I guess I will soon find out somewhere in either just few days, or up to a week from now.
I just ordered one and the expected delivery date on my confirmation email from Walmart. It says it should be arriving between Thursday, 04/23/09, and Tuesday, 04/28/09.
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I have 4 monitors on my PC here at work, so I can compare things side by side. I have the H2160MW9 and THE H2160MW9A PDFs up side by side [Thanks for the link, wajo]and I can see that there is one noticeable PHYSICAL external difference between the two models. The MW9A has an 'HDMI' logo on the front panel but the original MW9 doesn't. Other than that, they are identical, externally.
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I just turned 65 last month. I guess maybe these forums are not just full of teenagers.

Since we're revealing our ages, I'll be 58 this summer.
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Since we're revealing our ages, I'll be 58 this summer.

Do any young people own these boxes?
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I'm 52 years *young*.


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I have one each, 3575, 3576, 2080, 2160. I also have a bunch of ES/EZ series Panasonics including yesterday's purchase of a DMR-ES46V for parts. I just turned 62.

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After some deliberation I ordered a 2160 from Wallyworld. I already have a 3576 and I don't *need* another HDD/DVDR. But I *want* another HDD/DVDR. It will be good to have a backup system in the event of one failing, and until then I am going to make the 2160 my dubbing (mostly VHS -> DVD) workhorse and use my 3576 solely for recording OTA programs to HDD.

That's a good plan cuz it takes max. advantage of the 2160's 2X HSD speed, so your VHS > DVD project will take 2X less time on the final step!

Since I found a TY spec that shows 8X discs take ~40% less laser power than 16X discs to burn, I'd suggest to everyone that they stick to 8X TY, Verbatim or Sony from Taiwan for all their DVD projects (info on that here).
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Ok, mon ami, now the question (since my source failed me)...
Why do you "recommend" the WD??
Must be more than whim or that they employ you.

Thanks STG - Mike.

Heh...no, I'm not an employee of WD or any other computer company / retailer. I'm just a guy that's been into computers for over 20 years and building my own for the past 10.

I got a Commodore 64 when I was 10 years old, hooked up a 300 baud (a zippy 0.005 Kb/s!) modem to it, and started surfing the "web" before there was a web. Anyone remember text-based bulletin boards? Oops. I seemed to have uncovered the fact that I'm a lot younger than most you guys now, haven't I? Well, you probably knew that anyway if you've been lurking this board for a few months. The whole reason I bought one of these in the first place was to burn movies of my first child off my miniDV camcorder.

Anyway, Mike, thanks for the brief trip down memory lane. I'm hoping you feel a little better about my credentials now. I'm a firm believer in getting the most bang for your buck. I haven't personally experienced any WD drive failures and they are as good a value as you'll find more often than not.
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(...)I got a Commodore 64 when I was 10 years old, hooked up a 300 baud (a zippy 0.005 Kb/s!) modem to it, and started surfing the "web" before there was a web. Anyone remember text-based bulletin boards?(...)

I remember BBS's, but they had a few files you could download, and my modem was a 2400 baud.
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